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Texas number #6 in the AP Poll?

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Seriously there’s something really wrong with these voters.. I predict they will jump everyone next week to Number #1.. a team that got handled against the mighty Terps and what did Iowa do with Maryland? Made turtle soup.. these polls are a joke.. the BCS polls are the only legit one out there as the coaches poll is also a joke as how do all these coaches watch these games? Just doesn’t add up.
 
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Wash st jumps 12 after beating an overrated Oregon team typical Bullshit I hope the boys go to the valley and just piss pound PSU this sat then maybe iowa takes a big jump

I honestly think i could break a tackle from some of oregons defensive players.
Seriously.
 
We lost to Wisconsin, who has lost to a 4-3 BYU and got destroyed by Michigan, we have no room to complain about any other teams in the polls right now. Wisconsin isn't a good loss anymore, and it'll look worse when they drop a couple more down the stretch. What did Iowa really do to Maryland? We scored one offensive TD the whole game and they didn't score any for the same reason, the wind. The shutout looks nice on paper, but we were a dropped one handed grab away from not scoring a TD at all on offense when we held the ball for 41 minutes. Win at PSU and that will turn some heads (and then hope they beat Wisconsin and Michigan so that still means something).
 
Iowa hasn't beaten a good team yet. (Maryland and ISU aren't respected.) UT had a bad loss but rebounded with a top 5 win.
So why rank teams when they are 0-0? Look I really don’t care about rankings and what you always hear from Kirk is true, win and it will all be sorted out.

But it’s pretty clear from my Hawkeye tinted glasses O$U was overrated as hell and Iowa isn’t getting any respect like usual. It’s fine, they can rank Iowa near #20 but I believe this Iowa team will keep the slow and steady rise to the top that is typical of a Kirk Ferentz coached team.
 
When all else fails, just look at unbiased computer ratings, Iowa is in the top 10, and although they don't technically have any marquee wins, they do have dominating performances against decent teams, ISU, Minnesota, Indiana, Maryland, which leads to the 28th ranked schedule in the country, better than Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame to name a few

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/
 
I don't worry about the polls ... they take care of themselves. Iowa will just keep on winning and the "expert voters" will eventually have to give the Hawks their due ... Voters are just creaming to get Texas back up there - along with Michigan, etc. The polls don't make sense for the most part ... We are rated above the team who beat us. We shut out the team who beat the #6 team (Texas) ... Just win, baby!
 
We lost to Wisconsin, who has lost to a 4-3 BYU and got destroyed by Michigan, we have no room to complain about any other teams in the polls right now. Wisconsin isn't a good loss anymore, and it'll look worse when they drop a couple more down the stretch. What did Iowa really do to Maryland? We scored one offensive TD the whole game and they didn't score any for the same reason, the wind. The shutout looks nice on paper, but we were a dropped one handed grab away from not scoring a TD at all on offense when we held the ball for 41 minutes. Win at PSU and that will turn some heads (and then hope they beat Wisconsin and Michigan so that still means something).
Maryland’s offense being shutdown by Iowa had very little to do with the wind. They are not a passing team.
 
Texas is overrrated but it's easy to see how it happens. To balance the loss at Maryland in the opener, they have a win over Oklahoma and two romps over teams that were considered pretty good at the time (USC and TCU). Iowa's problem is that the ISU win is the best they have so far. By the time it became clear that TCU wasn't as good as people thought, the Teasips were firmly in the ratings. You don't drop just because it turns out a team you beat isn't as good as was believed at the time.

Plus, they're effing Texas. One of half a dozen teams that are going to be rated if they show any signs of adequacy.
 
I'll be interested to see what the CFP committee does with it. How much will they pay attention to the polls? In previous years they've nearly matched it, but I'd really like to see them look at it from a perspective of who's playing well. Texas is one that IMO is really questionable. You know what though? They beat Oklahoma, and that matters. Early losses always have a way of being forgiven in all except "all other things being equal" situations.
 
I'll be interested to see what the CFP committee does with it. How much will they pay attention to the polls? In previous years they've nearly matched it, but I'd really like to see them look at it from a perspective of who's playing well. Texas is one that IMO is really questionable. You know what though? They beat Oklahoma, and that matters. Early losses always have a way of being forgiven in all except "all other things being equal" situations.
I wouldn't count OU out of the mix yet. Now that they finally fired Stoops as DC, they could win out, including the title game.

And I wouldn't get terribly excited about Texas. They have those good wins, but they also have some narrow wins over so-so competition, and they still have to play Iowa State, Texas Tech and West Virginia, the latter two on the road.
 
Seriously there’s something really wrong with these voters.. I predict they will jump everyone next week to Number #1.. a team that got handled against the mighty Terps and what did Iowa do with Maryland? Made turtle soup.. these polls are a joke.. the BCS polls are the only legit one out there as the coaches poll is also a joke as how do all these coaches watch these games? Just doesn’t add up.

Polls and bowls dont matter anymore.

Winning your division is really all that matters in the regular season.

Do that and you have at least one meaningful post season game and hopefully more.
 
Texas is overrrated but it's easy to see how it happens. To balance the loss at Maryland in the opener, they have a win over Oklahoma and two romps over teams that were considered pretty good at the time (USC and TCU). Iowa's problem is that the ISU win is the best they have so far. By the time it became clear that TCU wasn't as good as people thought, the Teasips were firmly in the ratings. You don't drop just because it turns out a team you beat isn't as good as was believed at the time.

Plus, they're effing Texas. One of half a dozen teams that are going to be rated if they show any signs of adequacy.

True, you don't drop in that case, but you should if that's why you're ranked highly. Each week, rankings should be completely refactored based on the new info gained, which includes the updated w/l record of opponents you've played in previous weeks. Beating a top 10 team in week 2 that ended up as a 5 win team should not be considered a victory over a top 10 team as soon as it's apparent that they were overrated. Similarly, a win vs an unranked team that is now undefeated 8 weeks into the season should be considered a very good win. This is exactly why computer ratings are so much better. They typically do take this into account and, for that reason, paint a much more accurate picture.
 
Iowa's problem is that the ISU win is the best they have so far.
I think you are right but one could almost argue a 23 point win over Maryland is better than a 10 point win over ISU.

ISU has a weird resume right now and it's hard to get a good feel for any team in the Big 12. For example, I think West Virginia is still way overrated. Outside of Oklahoma, I'm not convinced anyone in that conference is a top 15 team. Might not even be another top 20 team in there to be honest.
 
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The only time polls matter is if you get through the season with only 1 loss.

Hawk fans bitching about not getting respect reminds me a lot of 2015. All season long I told people here to shut up and just keep winning and there is NO WAY Iowa could get left out. Turned out I was exactly right.

Guess what Hawk fans that like to bitch? Win every game that's left on the schedule and beat either OSU or Michigan in Indy and we will go to the playoff. I don't think Iowa will win out regardless, but I'm just saying if Iowa wins there is zero question that we're in.
 
The only time polls matter is if you get through the season with only 1 loss.

Hawk fans bitching about not getting respect reminds me a lot of 2015. All season long I told people here to shut up and just keep winning and there is NO WAY Iowa could get left out. Turned out I was exactly right.

Guess what Hawk fans that like to bitch? Win every game that's left on the schedule and beat either OSU or Michigan in Indy and we will go to the playoff. I don't think Iowa will win out regardless, but I'm just saying if Iowa wins there is zero question that we're in.

This, if you keeping winning, it will take care of itself.
 
Watch ISU’s annual “kill the biggies in the Big 12 with our third string qb” and tell me anyone in that conference plays Defense. Would not put any in the top fifteen...
 
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When all else fails, just look at unbiased computer ratings, Iowa is in the top 10, and although they don't technically have any marquee wins, they do have dominating performances against decent teams, ISU, Minnesota, Indiana, Maryland, which leads to the 28th ranked schedule in the country, better than Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame to name a few

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

You cite Sagarin, then call Maryland, Minnesota, and Indiana decent teams, all of which are 10-20 spots lower than Okie State, who everybody in this thread is convinced absolutely sucks.
 
So why rank teams when they are 0-0? Look I really don’t care about rankings and what you always hear from Kirk is true, win and it will all be sorted out.

But it’s pretty clear from my Hawkeye tinted glasses O$U was overrated as hell and Iowa isn’t getting any respect like usual. It’s fine, they can rank Iowa near #20 but I believe this Iowa team will keep the slow and steady rise to the top that is typical of a Kirk Ferentz coached team.

Iowa isn't getting respect?
They're ranked! And we havent beaten anybody!
Cmon now
 
The farther in the past a team's loss is, the less relevance it has today.
I see no problem with this whatsoever.
Had Texas lost to Maryland 2 weeks ago, they wouldn't be #6.
It ain't rocket science, guys.
 
Watch ISU’s annual “kill the biggies in the Big 12 with our third string qb” and tell me anyone in that conference plays Defense. Would not put any in the top fifteen...

It's the same concept when you flip the script, "B10 offenses are bad"

Offense yards per game rank:
Rutgers - 129
Maryland - 116
Mich St - 102
MN - 87th
Iowa - 83
NW - 81
 
I think you are right but one could almost argue a 23 point win over Maryland is better than a 10 point win over ISU.

ISU has a weird resume right now and it's hard to get a good feel for any team in the Big 12. For example, I think West Virginia is still way overrated. Outside of Oklahoma, I'm not convinced anyone in that conference is a top 15 team. Might not even be another top 20 team in there to be honest.
I was just going by the impression that ISU is the only top 50 team Iowa has beaten, but I could be wrong about that. Not trying to twist any tails.
 
The only time polls matter is if you get through the season with only 1 loss.

Hawk fans bitching about not getting respect reminds me a lot of 2015. All season long I told people here to shut up and just keep winning and there is NO WAY Iowa could get left out. Turned out I was exactly right.

Guess what Hawk fans that like to bitch? Win every game that's left on the schedule and beat either OSU or Michigan in Indy and we will go to the playoff. I don't think Iowa will win out regardless, but I'm just saying if Iowa wins there is zero question that we're in.

Unless Wisconsin keeps winning. Then we will likely be at...I'm going to guess Orange Bowl (or Rose...not sure which bowl gets to pick first). I think Wisconsin gets destroyed by either Michigan or Ohio State in the CCG and drops to the Citrus Bowl instead. There's still a chance that Wisconsin goes to a New Year's 6 bowl as well but I think that would lead to a mismatch.
 
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Iowa hasn't beaten a good team yet. (Maryland and ISU aren't respected.) UT had a bad loss but rebounded with a top 5 win.
I beg to differ I think Indiana and Maryland
and actually Iowa State are pretty decent teams but I am no football expert like you
 
The Texas win over Oklahoma got them way too much love; the Oct 30th BCS rankings will hopefully place the Longhorns where they belong.
 
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Iowa isn't getting respect?
They're ranked! And we havent beaten anybody!
Cmon now
It's the same concept when you flip the script, "B10 offenses are bad"

Offense yards per game rank:
Rutgers - 129
Maryland - 116
Mich St - 102
MN - 87th
Iowa - 83
NW - 81
Not when you watch it and see blown coverages, blown tackles, not setting an edge as if the sideline is gonna grab the ball-carrier for ya...seriously, night and day difference how well B1G d-backs track the ball and drop people...
 
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The Texas win over Oklahoma got them way too much love; the Oct 30th BCS rankings will hopefully place the Longhorns where they belong.

Maybe so, but if you’re gonna lose, it’s much better for a team to lose early in the season than later. If Texas continues on their winning ways (possible), it will be hard to keep them from being ranked high.

It’s the concept of “what have you done for me lately.....”
 
When all else fails, just look at unbiased computer ratings, Iowa is in the top 10, and although they don't technically have any marquee wins, they do have dominating performances against decent teams, ISU, Minnesota, Indiana, Maryland, which leads to the 28th ranked schedule in the country, better than Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia, Penn State, Wisconsin and Notre Dame to name a few

https://www.usatoday.com/sports/ncaaf/sagarin/

Minnesota is a decent team?
 
So why rank teams when they are 0-0? Look I really don’t care about rankings and what you always hear from Kirk is true, win and it will all be sorted out.

But it’s pretty clear from my Hawkeye tinted glasses O$U was overrated as hell and Iowa isn’t getting any respect like usual. It’s fine, they can rank Iowa near #20 but I believe this Iowa team will keep the slow and steady rise to the top that is typical of a Kirk Ferentz coached team.


The "win and it will all be sorted out" theme is a bit naive. I think there are plenty of voters who are looking for excuses to keep teams like Iowa (non-blue-blood) out of the top four. So.....winning ugly, no margin of victory, no shut-outs, you name it would come back to bite a team like Iowa. You have to give the voters no choice.
 
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The fact we have only played one top 25 team so far this season and lost and add the fact we were not a preseason top 25 and I am happy we are at least top 20 right now. We win this week and we likely jump 4-5 spots next week and get into the top 15. At this point we have only beaten the back half of the B1G and a middle of the pack Big 12 team. This next month will tell us just how good we really are when we play PSU, Purdue and Northwestern. I mean the reason our record is what is and the reason we are ranked top 20 right now is because we played 2 easy non cons and have had a favorable conference slate so far while a lot of other top 40 teams out there have faced some tougher conference and non conference games and as a result have 2 or 3 losses even though they may be 8,9 or 10 win teams by the end of the season.
 
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