http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/18/us/cincinnati-police-shooting/
It's also a load of bulls@@t.
It's also a load of bulls@@t.
That's a heckuva nice settlement..
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It's bs because anyone can have a family member tragically murdered but they don't get a damn dime for it...I think it stinks...you obviously don't...the difference between us. That and the fact I am more intelligent than you are.
One would think that Republicans would LOVE this free market resolution.
This will significantly incentivize Cinncinnati to do a MUCH better job of hiring competent and honest police officers, rather than lying jackasses who pull people over outside of their jurisdiction, and shoot them when there was zero need to pull out a weapon, then lie about it. Or, they can continue to hire incompetent officers, and pay out damages AGAIN.
Ok I will buy that and I will buy the free tuition deal...that is fair...but 4 mil for a murder is bs. Just indict the cop and put him in prison...
That does NOTHING to prevent Cinncinnati or any other entity from 'cutting costs' and hiring colossally incompetent officers who are racists or hotheads or gun-happy idiots so that this is repeated again and another family is impacted.
When the penalty is severe enough, they will allocate the money and resources to ensure they have fair, competent and reasonable officers who know how to deal with the general public, and know when they are out of their jurisdiction and shouldn't 'look for a fight' so to speak.
Unless you disagree with 'free market solutions'....do you prefer more big government regulations on who they can hire as officers? Or allowing them to develop their own internal standards and determine how much risk they want to take on with hiring and training their officers?
They can hire who they want...if officers cross the line then either fire them or arrest them. Handing settlements out every time a cop crosses the line especially where minorities are concerned is nothing more than entitlements...pure and simple.
Two generals of the Confederacy pissing all over each other and then Einstein's protégé schooling them on fundamemtal free market principles followed by completely predictable lunacy. Awesome thread.
Einstiens protege is pretty confused about free markets. It is a government entity and a court of law involved. Not the stock market or a shopping mall.
There absolutely are market principles involved. The municipality can either spend the extra $$ to hire competent and mentally stable police, or they can shop out for minimum wage and hire gun-crazy hillbillies.
When there is zero financial accountability for misbehavior, there is a stronger initiative to hire minimum wage hicks. They save a ton of money.
When there is substantial financial accountability, there is a stronger initiative to hire highly trained and trainable police at $25-35 an hour. If they spend too much, they strain their budget.
The answer is something in between.
You don't need a 'stock market' to have free-market related principles governing behavior.
So you don't believe that any company or organization should be responsible for the behavior of their employees? Especially when those employees happen to be armed?
Or is it just when a black person gets killed that you don't care?
Holding govt accountable for financial responsibility... I have a hard time understanding how any conservative could possibly argue with this. In fact, it's something that should be uniting Americans across the political spectrum.
I will reserve judgment until I know more about their financial situation, how many are biological, if they had 2, went for 3 and got 10 (probably would have heard about that one before though).
They have no competition and cannot go out of business. If they need more money, they just write more tickets or raise taxes. It is in no way shape or form a free market. The money for that lawsuit doesn't come from their budget. It comes from a general liability fund for which they have no accountability.
You know how a government agency ensures its budget stays the same or increases? They make sure to spend it all each year. I've done a number of projects for government entities in the forth quarter that only existed for that very purpose.
Baloney. We are talking about salaries for police/security jobs. That is ABSOLUTELY a market-based economy, unless you subscribe to the socialist paradigm that everyone should make a fixed-rate salary regardless of profession or capability.
The city can choose to pay UNDER market and take on additional risks (provided settlements like this post a disincentive to do so), or they can pay OVER market and get a more capable force, BUT need to raise taxes and risk the ire of their local voting base voting them out. That is absolutely a market-based system, with both positive and negative 'returns' depending on how they decide to act. This is why MOST pay nominally close to a market rate for police, and spend the resources for appropriate training.
Regarding the 'liability fund' - they ABSOLUTELY have accountability for that fund - they have to pay premiums, and if the insurer sees them as a high risk, they will pay 2x or 3x more for their premiums. Yet ANOTHER example of a market-based feedback.
This isn't my fight, but you claiming to be more intelligent than ANYONE is just too funny. If a police officer shot and killed your son out of negligence, you would want justice regardless of what you tell yourself.
Maybe you don't have a child, but if you do, think about when they were first born. The first time they called you Da-Da. The first time you sent them to school. That time they were out later than they were supposed to be and you were so worried. The day they graduated high school.
Then imagine a bullet from a negligent police officer piercing your child's heart and ending his or her life. Part of your soul just gone in an instant because somebody with a gun got scared.
Oh well, sucks to be you, huh? What, were you wanting some kind of hand-out? Maybe you should have been a better father.
You tend to agree with Trad:
The people in charge (employer, university) should t be responsible for the official actions of those they choose to do those official actions.
Great deal for those in charge.
Let me wager a silly guess: despite believing the above you blame and holler for punishment of the POTUS over all sorts of things his underlings do, right?
