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The Assault Weapons Ban the NRA Couldn't Stop

I wonder if that works in reverse?

If my local community says Chain Guns and RPGs are kosher does that trump state and federal law?
 
Actually another Federal Court will declare a similar ban is unconstitutional and then everyone will be ready to hear the case. Federal courts have been disregarding a lot of DC Vs Heller.
 
The Supreme Court has declined to take up one of the toughest gun-control laws in the country — a major blow to the NRA

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You and Rolling Stone have taken the liberty to read way too much into this decision. The USSC simply voted to not take this issue up this session. Anyone who thinks this sends some type of message is not very intelligent.

I understand fully that our rights are under attack like never before by the left but don't read more into the USSC decision that it really means which is " another day, another session".
 
Actually another Federal Court will declare a similar ban is unconstitutional and then everyone will be ready to hear the case. Federal courts have been disregarding a lot of DC Vs Heller.

This is clearly permissible under Heller. Scalia even said so in his opinion.
 
A .308 can punch through body armor and has more accuracy and a better range. Shotguns do way more destructive damage up close than assault rifles do. You can use flechette rounds and really f*** people up. Have you ever seen those shotgun "shells" that they make out of crayons and buckshot? Nasty stuff.

It's all about the aesthetics.
 
The Supreme Court has declined to take up one of the toughest gun-control laws in the country — a major blow to the NRA

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...n-the-nra-couldnt-stop-20151209#ixzz3trfOjPEn

That's brimming with credibility.

The NRA is pretty untouchable, with record numbers & new members and all.

You & your ilk suffered a major blow last week; you really should just stop with the stupid comments and "articles" demeaning defenders of the second amendment.
 
No he never. Also you need to look at US Vs Miller. The only way you can regulate a weapon is to prove that it would not be used in connection with a militia or the military.

Scalia in Heller: We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time.” 307 U. S., at 179. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of “dangerous and unusual weapons.”

The 7th circuit opinion:
Heller holds that a law banning the possession of handguns
in the home (or making their use in the home infeasible)
violates the individual right to keep and bear arms secured
by the Second Amendment. But the Court added that
this is not a “right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever
in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” 554
U.S. at 626. It cautioned against interpreting the decision to
cast doubt on “longstanding prohibitions”, including the
“historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous
and unusual weapons’”.

Plaintiffs ask us to distinguish machine guns from semiautomatic
weapons on the ground that the latter are commonly
owned for lawful purposes. Cf. Heller, 554 U.S. at 625.
This does not track the way Heller distinguished United States
v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939): The Court took from Miller the
rule that the Second Amendment does not authorize private
persons to possess weapons such as machine guns and
sawed‐off shotguns that the government would not expect
(or allow) citizens to bring with them when the militia is
called to service.

Plaintiffs ask us to distinguish machine guns from semiautomatic
weapons on the ground that the latter are commonly
owned for lawful purposes. Cf. Heller, 554 U.S. at 625.
This does not track the way Heller distinguished United States
v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939): The Court took from Miller the
rule that the Second Amendment does not authorize private
persons to possess weapons such as machine guns and
sawed‐off shotguns that the government would not expect
(or allow) citizens to bring with them when the militia is
called to service. During Prohibition the Thompson submachine
gun (the “Tommy gun”) was all too common in Chicago,
but that popularity didn’t give it a constitutional immunity
from the federal prohibition enacted in 1934. (The Tommy
gun is a machine gun, as defined by 18 U.S.C. §921(23)
and 26 U.S.C. §5845(b), and generally forbidden by 18 U.S.C.
§922(a)(4), because it fires multiple rounds with a single pull
of the trigger; like the Uzi it is called a “submachine gun” to
indicate that it is smaller and more mobile than other machine
guns. The AK‐47 and AR‐15 (M16) rifles in military use
also are submachine guns, though civilian versions are restricted
to semi‐automatic fire.) Both Heller and Miller contemplated
that the weapons properly in private hands for
militia use might change through legal regulation as well as
innovation by firearms manufacturers.
And relying on how common a weapon is at the time of
litigation would be circular to boot. Machine guns aren’t
commonly owned for lawful purposes today because they
are illegal; semi‐automatic weapons with large‐capacity
magazines are owned more commonly because, until recently
(in some jurisdictions), they have been legal. Yet it would
be absurd to say that the reason why a particular weapon
can be banned is that there is a statute banning that it, so that
it isn’t commonly owned. A law’s existence can’t be the
source of its own constitutional validity.
 
That's brimming with credibility.

The NRA is pretty untouchable, with record numbers & new members and all.

You & your ilk suffered a major blow last week; you really should just stop with the stupid comments and "articles" demeaning defenders of the second amendment.

By a 7-2 margin the scotus allowed a law to stand that bans assault weapons and high capacity magazines, declares these arms contraband and confiscate them and hit violators with jail time and/or a sizable fine.

You and Arby can say the nra is untouchable so Im sure this didn't bother the nra at all. :D
 
Scalia in Heller: We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time.” 307 U. S., at 179. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of “dangerous and unusual weapons.”

The 7th circuit opinion:
Heller holds that a law banning the possession of handguns
in the home (or making their use in the home infeasible)
violates the individual right to keep and bear arms secured
by the Second Amendment. But the Court added that
this is not a “right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever
in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” 554
U.S. at 626. It cautioned against interpreting the decision to
cast doubt on “longstanding prohibitions”, including the
“historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous
and unusual weapons’”.

Plaintiffs ask us to distinguish machine guns from semiautomatic
weapons on the ground that the latter are commonly
owned for lawful purposes. Cf. Heller, 554 U.S. at 625.
This does not track the way Heller distinguished United States
v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939): The Court took from Miller the
rule that the Second Amendment does not authorize private
persons to possess weapons such as machine guns and
sawed‐off shotguns that the government would not expect
(or allow) citizens to bring with them when the militia is
called to service.

Plaintiffs ask us to distinguish machine guns from semiautomatic
weapons on the ground that the latter are commonly
owned for lawful purposes. Cf. Heller, 554 U.S. at 625.
This does not track the way Heller distinguished United States
v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939): The Court took from Miller the
rule that the Second Amendment does not authorize private
persons to possess weapons such as machine guns and
sawed‐off shotguns that the government would not expect
(or allow) citizens to bring with them when the militia is
called to service. During Prohibition the Thompson submachine
gun (the “Tommy gun”) was all too common in Chicago,
but that popularity didn’t give it a constitutional immunity
from the federal prohibition enacted in 1934. (The Tommy
gun is a machine gun, as defined by 18 U.S.C. §921(23)
and 26 U.S.C. §5845(b), and generally forbidden by 18 U.S.C.
§922(a)(4), because it fires multiple rounds with a single pull
of the trigger; like the Uzi it is called a “submachine gun” to
indicate that it is smaller and more mobile than other machine
guns. The AK‐47 and AR‐15 (M16) rifles in military use
also are submachine guns, though civilian versions are restricted
to semi‐automatic fire.) Both Heller and Miller contemplated
that the weapons properly in private hands for
militia use might change through legal regulation as well as
innovation by firearms manufacturers.
And relying on how common a weapon is at the time of
litigation would be circular to boot. Machine guns aren’t
commonly owned for lawful purposes today because they
are illegal; semi‐automatic weapons with large‐capacity
magazines are owned more commonly because, until recently
(in some jurisdictions), they have been legal. Yet it would
be absurd to say that the reason why a particular weapon
can be banned is that there is a statute banning that it, so that
it isn’t commonly owned. A law’s existence can’t be the
source of its own constitutional validity.
The AR 15 is the most common sporting rifle on the market. Millions sold every year. Nothing unusual about it.
 
As the court said, just because its commonly used that doesnt mean it is not unusual.
The lower court may have said that but their decision to allow the ban is in error. Your claim was that Scalia said they could be banned in Heller is a lie.
The decision in US vs Miller involved a short barreled shot gun and the SCOTUS decided in the favor of the government simply because there was no evidence presented that short shot guns would serve a purpose in the military. No evidence was presented because Miller was dead.
 
By a 7-2 margin the scotus allowed a law to stand that bans assault weapons and high capacity magazines, declares these arms contraband and confiscate them and hit violators with jail time and/or a sizable fine.

You and Arby can say the nra is untouchable so Im sure this didn't bother the nra at all. :D


What's a high capacity magazine? This is another catch phrase that was created after the Aurora shooting.
Define it.
 
For which weapons? The STANDARD magazine for an AR is 30 rounds. Handguns range from 10-16.

Limiting how many rounds will not make an impact on deaths. Just more feel good legislation, unfortunately and no real solution.

This applies to all guns possessed there.
 
By a 7-2 margin the scotus allowed a law to stand that bans assault weapons and high capacity magazines, declares these arms contraband and confiscate them and hit violators with jail time and/or a sizable fine.

You and Arby can say the nra is untouchable so Im sure this didn't bother the nra at all. :D

Ummm, no they didnt.

Check your facts again.
 
The lower court may have said that but their decision to allow the ban is in error. Your claim was that Scalia said they could be banned in Heller is a lie.
The decision in US vs Miller involved a short barreled shot gun and the SCOTUS decided in the favor of the government simply because there was no evidence presented that short shot guns would serve a purpose in the military. No evidence was presented because Miller was dead.

Scalia definitely said guns could be banned and this court used his reasoning to let this law stand. You can say they errored but the scotus let the law remain.
 
Scalia definitely said guns could be banned and this court used his reasoning to let this law stand. You can say they errored but the scotus let the law remain.
Yes he did, but not AR 15s as you said. They are not unusual at all.
It really isn't unusual for the SCOTUS to refuse to take up cases that the lower courts have wrong. Another one was passed on where a city requires guns to be locked in homes even though the Heller case specifically says this violates the second amendment.
All they have done is kicked the can down the road a ways.
 
The Supreme Court has declined to take up one of the toughest gun-control laws in the country —if true, this a major blow to safety of the Highland Park citizenry. FIFY

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