Why do we have so many worthless clone fans here running their big mouths?
Lose all the bowl games and ISU didn't even manage to MAKE a bowl game.
Lose all the bowl games and ISU didn't even manage to MAKE a bowl game.
The big 12 lost all of their bowl games?
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TCU may still win and WV has yet to play. But in general it does refute what our friends from Ames spend all year telling us, which is that the only reason they only won 1-2 conference games every year is because they are playing in some sort of super conference. I think the reality is that the differences between conferences is greatly exaggerated. Bowl games may not be the best metric to measure that, probably the best metric is when teams change conferences and then still look like effectively the same program they were before (example = Nebraska winning the Big12 North their last 2 years there and then they didn't exactly walk all over the Big10 their first year here).
But back to the bowl games, the Big10 ended up with a 500 record including a couple Big10 West teams beating the Pac12 South champ and runner-up (USC and UCLA). We also beat the SEC East champ and a team that was in the playoffs up until their final game of the year (Notre Dame). So I see no evidence that the Big10 - or even the BIG West for that matter - were somehow an inferior conference.
But back to the bowl games, the Big10 ended up with a 500 record including a couple Big10 West teams beating the Pac12 South champ and runner-up (USC and UCLA). We also beat the SEC East champ and a team that was in the playoffs up until their final game of the year (Notre Dame). So I see no evidence that the Big10 - or even the BIG West for that matter - were somehow an inferior conference.
I thought the Big10 did fine for itself big picture:
Big 10 champ and East Champ got smashed
Big 10 West champ smashed
Big 10 East runner-up won a Big 6 game
Big 10 West runner-up got smashed
Big 10 East third place team SMASHED SEC East Champ
Big 10 West third place team defeated Pac-12 South Champ
Big 10 West fourth place team Nebraska/Minnesota both won their bowl games in their opponents home state.
Indiana lost on a controversial FG call
Penn State played a close game with Georgia
The Big10 sent 3 teams to Big 6 bowl games and filled in a couple 5-7 teams just to fill out our games... We're gonna come away with a .500 record, if we only sent 1-2 teams to the Big 6 and move everyone down a rung...
Iowa > Florida
Ohio State > Tennessee
Wisconsin > USC
Northwestern > UCLA
Once again the bowl system isn't exactly set up for Big10 dominance especially when in like the case of Michigan our third place team in the East is playing the SEC East Champion an hour and half from their campus...
Big 10 champ and East Champ got smashed
Big 10 West champ smashed
Big 10 East runner-up won a Big 6 game
Big 10 West runner-up got smashed
Big 10 East third place team SMASHED SEC East Champ
Big 10 West third place team defeated Pac-12 South Champ
Big 10 West fourth place team Nebraska/Minnesota both won their bowl games in their opponents home state.
Indiana lost on a controversial FG call
Penn State played a close game with Georgia
The Big10 sent 3 teams to Big 6 bowl games and filled in a couple 5-7 teams just to fill out our games... We're gonna come away with a .500 record, if we only sent 1-2 teams to the Big 6 and move everyone down a rung...
Iowa > Florida
Ohio State > Tennessee
Wisconsin > USC
Northwestern > UCLA
Once again the bowl system isn't exactly set up for Big10 dominance especially when in like the case of Michigan our third place team in the East is playing the SEC East Champion an hour and half from their campus...
Why is that? It seems like the Big 10 is always playing a team that is rated higher and/or finished several places higher in their respective conference.
Maybe because the conference did a good job of locking up good bowls that get good teams? Isn't that the way we want it? Just saying........
Eventually I'd like to see the playoffs expanded and played @ the higher rated seed in December or January. So, Alabama or Florida may play @ OSU or Michigan. Or USC or Oregon may play @ Wisconsin or Iowa
The Big10 has great bowl tie-ins and because of the way we travel and the way other teams and conferences don't, host cities love big 10 teams even when the big 10 team is mismatched from their opponent.
It hasn't been unusual for some time now that the Big10 champion plays in a BCS title game or in the newly formed play-offs. When this happens the Big10 still has the tie-in with the Rose Bowl, and there are enough blue-blood programs with great traveling fan bases and large alumni bases to fill in a third major bowl like this year with Michigan State, Iowa, and Ohio State.
The benefits of playing in those games is obvious, but the major con of course is the domino effect on the other bowls. This has been the case for a while and the results are games like Wisconsin and USC (The BIG West 3rd place team vs. the Pac12 (runner up) and South Champion)... a Big10 win... or Michigan and Florida (The BIG East 3rd place team vs. the SEC (runner up) and East Champion... also a BIG win.
To add on to that thought, the goal of the bowls is to make money. The conferences and bowls work together to try to put good match ups on the field but its no secret that money is at the root of any bowl invitation... Just look at the Capital One Bowl... Northwestern was probably more deserving to play in that bowl vs Florida... They were the Big10 West 2nd place team and the battle of the defenses in that game would have been decent but there would have been no offense it would have been an ugly game with small viewership, poor attendance, etc.
Michigan and Tennessee would have better aligned as well and its possible that could have given the Big10 a winning record simply but putting the higher placing team in the better bowl...but money made that choice not on the field results.
Between an extra team in the Big 6 bowls, and the bowls/conferences choosing match-ups made for TV and tickets rather than on-field results you get bigger name mis-matches.
Michigan and Tennessee would have better aligned as well and its possible that could have given the Big10 a winning record simply but putting the higher placing team in the better bowl...but money made that choice not on the field results.
Between an extra team in the Big 6 bowls, and the bowls/conferences choosing match-ups made for TV and tickets rather than on-field results you get bigger name mis-matches.
B1G Champs got blanked. Runnerups got embarrassed. I think we should the f**k up!
That's cherry picking. Clown bragging of a superior conference is a joke. But that won't stop the morons from saying it over and over.
No, not when morons from ISU come here to talk trash. You should feel embarrassed for putting your tail between your legs and allowing these LOSERS from Lames talk bad about the B1G.
Big XII went 3-4. All 7 teams were underdogs, IIRC. Several were missing key players -- but the two hardest hit by injuries both won, so there's that excuse shot to hell.
Having said that, I don't see how the league could claim to be the best, based on how two of the top teams -- the two Oklahoma teams -- played. Of course, the top two teams in the BiG didn't exactly cover themselves with glory, either. But the lower-echelon BiG teams fared well.
Somebody mentioned the bowl lineup.....the BiG has a fantastic edge there, thanks primarily to television sets.
Having said that, I don't see how the league could claim to be the best, based on how two of the top teams -- the two Oklahoma teams -- played. Of course, the top two teams in the BiG didn't exactly cover themselves with glory, either. But the lower-echelon BiG teams fared well.
Somebody mentioned the bowl lineup.....the BiG has a fantastic edge there, thanks primarily to television sets.
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