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The G.O.P. Goes Full-On Extremist

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HR King
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There are no moderate Republicans in the House of Representatives.
Oh, no doubt some members are privately appalled by the views of Mike Johnson, the new speaker. But what they think in the privacy of their own minds isn’t important. What matters is what they do — and every single one of them went along with the selection of a radical extremist.
In fact, Johnson is more extreme than most people, I think even political reporters, fully realize.
Much of the reporting on Johnson has, understandably, focused on his role in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Let me say, by the way, that the widely used term “election denial” is a euphemism that softens and blurs what we’re really talking about. Trying to keep your party in power after it lost a free and fair election, without a shred of evidence of significant fraud, isn’t just denial; it’s a betrayal of democracy.
There has also been considerable coverage of Johnson’s right-wing social views, but I’m not sure how many people grasp the depth of his intolerance. Johnson isn’t just someone who wants to legalize discrimination against L.G.B.T.Q. Americans and ban gay marriage; he’s on record as defending the criminalization of gay sex.
But Johnson’s extremism, and that of the party that chose him, goes beyond rejecting democracy and trying to turn back the clock on decades of social progress. He has also espoused a startlingly reactionary economic agenda.
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Until his sudden elevation to speaker, Johnson was a relatively little-known figure. But he did serve for a time as chairman of the Republican Study Committee, a group that devises policy proposals. And now that Johnson has become the face of his party, people really should look at the budget proposal the committee released for 2020 under his chairmanship.
For if you read that proposal carefully, getting past the often mealy-mouthed language, you realize that it calls for the evisceration of the U.S. social safety net — not just programs for the poor, but also policies that form the bedrock of financial stability for the American middle class.
Start with Social Security, where the budget calls for raising the retirement age — already set to rise to 67 — to 69 or 70, with possible further increases as life expectancy rises.

On the surface, this might sound plausible. Until Covid produced a huge drop, average U.S. life expectancy at age 65 was steadily rising over time. But there is a huge and growing gap between the number of years affluent Americans can expect to live and life expectancy for lower-income groups, including not just the poor but also much of the working class. So raising the retirement age would fall hard on less fortunate Americans — precisely the people who depend most on Social Security.
Then there’s Medicare, for which the budget proposes increasing the eligibility age “so it is aligned with the normal retirement age for Social Security and then indexing this age to life expectancy.” Translation: Raise the Medicare age from 65 to 70, then keep raising it.

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Wait, there’s more. Most nonelderly Americans receive health insurance through their employers. But this system depends greatly on policies that the study committee proposed eliminating. You see, benefits don’t count as taxable income — but in order to maintain this tax advantage, companies (roughly speaking) must cover all their employees, as opposed to offering benefits only to highly compensated individuals.
The committee budget would eliminate this incentive for broad coverage by limiting the tax deduction for employer benefits and offering the same deduction for insurance purchased by individuals. As a result, some employers would probably just give their top earners cash, which they could use to buy expensive individual plans, while dropping coverage for the rest of their workers.
Oh, and it goes almost without saying that the budget would impose savage cuts — $3 trillion over a decade — on Medicaid, children’s health coverage and subsidies that help lower-income Americans afford insurance under the Affordable Care Act.
How many Americans would lose health insurance under these proposals? Back in 2017 the Congressional Budget Office estimated that Donald Trump’s attempt to repeal Obamacare would cause 23 million Americans to lose coverage. The Republican Study Committee’s proposals are far more draconian and far-reaching, so the losses would presumably be much bigger.
So Mike Johnson is on record advocating policies on retirement, health care and other areas I don’t have space to get into, like food stamps, that would basically end American society as we know it. We would become a vastly crueler and less secure nation, with far more sheer misery.
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I think it’s safe to say that these proposals would be hugely unpopular — if voters knew about them. But will they?
Actually, I’d like to see some focus groups asking what Americans think of Johnson’s policy positions. Here’s my guess, based on previous experience: Many voters will simply refuse to believe that prominent Republicans, let alone the speaker of the House, are really advocating such terrible things.
But they are and he is. The G.O.P. has gone full-on extremist, on economic as well as social issues. The question now is whether the American public will notice.

 
People are not willing to raises their taxes to pay for Medicare. Medicare is the problem. So yeah, raise the age.

People are so entitled. They expect a free ride when old. I don't.
They’ve already paid for their entire working lives, dumbass.
 
Everybody here knows that once you are on Medicare, it is not free. Don’t you.? My wife and I each pay a very healthy amount.
Well, now it taken from our social security check.
I personally don’t know, but my parents can confirm.

Medicaid is the free ride.
 
It would be great if congress quit spending social security funding on other projects. It's a ponzi scheme at its core anyways, but a large reason for the shortage in funding is the constant "borrowing" from the coffers.
 
It would be great if congress quit spending social security funding on other projects. It's a ponzi scheme at its core anyways, but a large reason for the shortage in funding is the constant "borrowing" from the coffers.

What projects?
 
And while we’re at it, start kicking people off Medicaid who refuse to weigh under 350 pounds and/or can’t pass a drug test.
Stupid. Who is going to pay the bill for their inevitable healthcare needs once they don’t have Medicaid, oh wait, the insured when hospitals raise prices even farther.

My goodness people are dense. Wait, unless you’re proposing that people who are uninsured cannot access healthcare they can’t pay for? Is that what you’re proposing? Someone who is 350+, or a drug user, has to die in the streets from a hot appendix? Is that what you want America to become as a nation?

You're either an idiot or a heartless bastard. You choose which label you want.
 
Between medical costs after insurance, and seeing what the premiums are at my workplace for a couple dozen people for our insurance, id be all for paying a little extra in taxes for universal healthcare.

If universal healthcare is good enough for the israelis……..
Let’s go with the assumption that my wife and my employer would give me all the money they pay in premiums to me as income. Let’s say that taxes are raised to pay for universal healthcare. We make about 160k gross a year. Our federal income taxes could double and we would come out ahead. Double. I did the math a few years ago and it actually came out to 2.3 times to break even
 
Between medical costs after insurance, and seeing what the premiums are at my workplace for a couple dozen people for our insurance, id be all for paying a little extra in taxes for universal healthcare.

If universal healthcare is good enough for the israelis……..
Every country in the world that has universal healthcare love it. We have too much greed here. The older I get and having to pay $700 here, $1600 there WITH INSURANCE, is infuriating. Nobody wants to trade with us.
 
Stupid. Who is going to pay the bill for their inevitable healthcare needs once they don’t have Medicaid, oh wait, the insured when hospitals raise prices even farther.

My goodness people are dense. Wait, unless you’re proposing that people who are uninsured cannot access healthcare they can’t pay for? Is that what you’re proposing? Someone who is 350+, or a drug user, has to die in the streets from a hot appendix? Is that what you want America to become as a nation?

You're either an idiot or a heartless bastard. You choose which label you want.
Oh, awesome. Another libtard and his self-righteous anger.

Heartless bastard is definitely fitting for me, cowtipper.
 
Things are going your way for such a flippant attitude. I love to see people like you go down the tubes.

To wish harm on the least capable is the worst human quality. To be proud of it is,,,,fvcked up Republican.
What are we talking about again?
 
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Something something Ragnar hates fatties and meth heads…🤷🏻‍♂️🤣🤣
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Lol.

I actually believe in universal healthcare. Private insurance companies and overpriced drugs are a significant chunk of the exorbitant costs.

Yes, I believe if we penalize some people for behavior (e.g., smokers), why should obese people and addicts get a free pass?
 
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Lol.

I actually believe in universal healthcare. Private insurance companies and overpriced drugs are a significant chunk of the exorbitant costs.

Yes, I believe if we penalize some people for behavior (e.g., smokers), why should obese people and addicts get a free pass?

Conditional healthcare is not universal healthcare. No lifeboats for the 3rd and 4th class, right?
 
Conditional healthcare is not universal healthcare. No lifeboats for the 3rd and 4th class, right?
Universal means exactly that.

The one advantage of universal care that often gets overlooked is more and more people would get preventive care, which down the road would save lots of money and lives from expensive diseases and conditions that could have otherwise been prevented.

Yes, I actually believe every American should have access to quality care. My earlier point was about the Darwinian evolutionary practices of our current health system, and because many love a disparaging dig at fatties and druggies, I wrote in kind.

Yes, I am a prick. Stupid and heartless are debatable.
 
Oh, yeah, that’s right. Lol.

I actually believe in universal healthcare. Private insurance companies and overpriced drugs are a significant chunk of the exorbitant costs.

Yes, I believe if we penalize some people for behavior (e.g., smokers), why should obese people and addicts get a free pass?

Now this is something we can agree on
 
Universal means exactly that.

The one advantage of universal care that often gets overlooked is more and more people would get preventive care, which down the road would save lots of money and lives from expensive diseases and conditions that could have otherwise been prevented.

Yes, I actually believe every American should have access to quality care. My earlier point was about the Darwinian evolutionary practices of our current health system, and because many love a disparaging dig at fatties and druggies, I wrote in kind.

Yes, I am a prick. Stupid and heartless are debatable.

Holy fvck, two in a row
 
Universal means exactly that.

The one advantage of universal care that often gets overlooked is more and more people would get preventive care, which down the road would save lots of money and lives from expensive diseases and conditions that could have otherwise been prevented.

Yes, I actually believe every American should have access to quality care. My earlier point was about the Darwinian evolutionary practices of our current health system, and because many love a disparaging dig at fatties and druggies, I wrote in kind.

Yes, I am a prick. Stupid and heartless are debatable.

Life is not perfect. Nothing is perfect. If it was, we wouldn't need healthcare and doctors and the such.

Reality is people live imperfect lives and make poor decisions. This is not a new phenomenon. BTW, addiction is not necessarily a matter of choices made. Your use of "druggies" is so MAGA.
 
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