The Maddening Critical Race Theory Debate

[BioHawk]

Yeah…and yet these are the videos being shown to kids and labeled by those showing them as CRT. Which is a point being made that those “teaching” CRT don’t even know WTF it is. Have you not seen any of these videos pissing all of these parents off? It’s exactly what they’re saying.

It's not being taught in most schools, yet. There is a movement to get it taught in schools and it is being adopted by many school districts. Any significant shift in curriculum will also require professional development for teachers on how to address the new material. I'm not sure what videos you are referring to but either they were thrown up as a "hypothetical" from a right wing media source to invoke a reaction or the teachers weren't properly prepared to teach the curriculum. Assuming these videos are bad, again, I'm not familiar with them.

 

[CarolinaHawkeye]

As a way of differentiating itself from critical law theory CRT founded a set of tenants to distinguish itself. Give me a few and I'll grab a link for you. Make no mistake I think there are valuable aspects of CRT but tenet 5 is bullshit and is the reason so many people say its "marxist" I dont know enough about Marxism/socialism/communism to speak intelligently about that but the idea one person can make better decisions for a group than a group can is ****ed imo. (I kinda like democracy.)

You were all in for giving trump authority over eveything, basically ending democracy as we know it.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

You were all in for giving trump authority over eveything, basically ending democracy as we know it.

1. No I wasn't.

2. If you can't stay on topic and have a conversation please remove yourself from the one ping and I are having.


3. Get over trump. He doesn't care about you and never did, dude is a butt****, let him go.

 

[ping72]

This is a good article and also contains links to articles that discuss it further. The ansley 1997 article goes into it further I believe.

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I’m not being difficult, and thanks for the link... but I’m still not finding anything anywhere discussing your tenet five.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

I’m not being difficult, and thanks for the link... but I’m still not finding anything anywhere discussing your tenet five.

No worries. This does not break it down by tenets but speaks to it starting with the paragraph near the bottom relating to "dominance".


Here is a link specific to the tenets. Not the best link but it identifies them at the top. You can look into it more with the specific wording of each.

Legislator’s ‘equity coaching’ organization involved in Wake County schools’ Critical Race Theory course | The North State Journal

RALEIGH — An “equity coaching” organization co-founded by a North Carolina state representative was scheduled to offer professional development training on the controversial Critical Race Theory to Wake County Public School teachers and staff. The course, which was titled “Intro to Critical R

nsjonline.com

 

[B1GDeal]

But we the people get to vote on those politicians.

Yeah, and then they go to DC or city hall or wherever and do as they please. They look out for their party and their pockets. Period.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

... but shouldn't everyone be exposed to the truth? Without it you have people like a guy I want to high school with who didnt go to college confidently saying that things were ACTUALLY better for black people before civil rights.

No doubt he will teach his children the same thing.

I don't consider CRT the "truth". As the name implies it's a theory.

It also isn't history and gets conflated with history by folks trying to defend it. I have no problem with teaching the truthful HISTORY at all. CRT is NOT history.

Definition of CRT in Britannica

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented) category that is used to oppress and exploit people of colour. Critical race theorists hold that the law and legal institutions in the United States are inherently racist insofar as they function to create and maintain social, economic, and political inequalities between whites and nonwhites, especially African Americans.

critical race theory | Definition, Principles, & Facts

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented)...

www.britannica.com

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Yeah, and then they go to DC or city hall or wherever and do as they please. They look out for their party and their pockets. Period.

I'm not going to try convince you that they do not act in thier interest however I have to ask, what is it you are suggesting would be better? If the answer is "they do what they are supposed to" that is what supposed to happen now and both sides **** thier constituents.

 

[binsfeldcyhawk2]

I think it should be taught in junior high when relevant in history classes. I remember learning a different story about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spirit_Lake_Massacre
than what is in this wikipedia article in my junior high Iowa history class.

CRT isn't history.

critical race theory | Definition, Principles, & Facts

critical race theory (CRT), intellectual and social movement and loosely organized framework of legal analysis based on the premise that race is not a natural, biologically grounded feature of physically distinct subgroups of human beings but a socially constructed (culturally invented)...

www.britannica.com

 

[Tom Paris]

I have no issue with it being taught in college by PhDs. The problem arises when an unqualified teacher from Waukee that doesn’t full understand CRT teaches it improperly. A Harvard study (I’ll see if I can find it) showed it can increase racial animosity if not taught correctly. Since it’s apparently so hard to define, what makes us think relatively lowly educated HS teacher will understand it?

Lol at it being taught in Waukee. This is the problem…people first not understanding and lying about it, and second thinking it’s getting taught in our schools. You fell for the Republican boogeyman.

 

[Brusselswrestler]

Lol at it being taught in Waukee. This is the problem…people first not understanding and lying about it, and second thinking it’s getting taught in our schools. You fell for the Republican boogeyman.

Ok, so define it. And if it’s not being taught, why advocate so hard to be able to teach it?

 

[Tom Paris]

I approve 100% of teaching this. Historically accurate discussions around the treatment of native americans, blacks, and immigrants should be had and brought to light. The curriculum should be updated with facts that are relevant from all sides of the issue / occurrence so it can be represented consistently by instructors. With those facts, the student can then make a decision about how they feel about it, the amount of empathy they choose to express, and if it's something they want to explore more. That said, I would would drop the CRT attachment at this point as it's essentially a nuclear term.

And making it a nuclear term was done on purpose by Republicans.