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The pandemic marks another grim milestone: 1 in 500 Americans have died of covid-19

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At a certain point, it was no longer a matter of if the United States would reach the gruesome milestone of 1 in 500 people dying of covid-19, but a matter of when. A year? Maybe 15 months? The answer: 19 months.

Given the mortality rate from covid and our nation’s population size, “we’re kind of where we predicted we would be with completely uncontrolled spread of infection,” said Jeffrey D. Klausner, clinical professor of medicine, population and public health sciences at the University of Southern California’s Keck School of Medicine. “Remember at the very beginning, which we don’t hear about anymore, it was all about flatten the curve.”
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The idea, he said, was to prevent “the humanitarian disaster” that occurred in New York City, where ambulance sirens were a constant as hospitals were overwhelmed and mortuaries needed mobile units to handle the additional dead.

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The goal of testing, mask-wearing, keeping six feet apart and limiting gatherings was to slow the spread of the highly infectious virus until a vaccine could stamp it out. The vaccines came but not enough people have been immunized, and the triumph of science waned as mass death and disease remain. The result: As the nation’s covid death toll exceeded 663,000 this week, it meant roughly 1 in every 500 Americans had succumbed to the disease caused by the coronavirus.





While covid’s death toll overwhelms the imagination, even more stunning is the deadly efficiency with which it has targeted Black, Latino, and American Indian and Alaska Native people in their 30s, 40s and 50s.





Death at a younger age represents more lost years of life. Lost potential. Lost scholarship. Lost mentorship. Lost earnings. Lost love.


“So often when we think about the majority of the country who have lost people to covid-19, we think about the elders that have been lost, not necessarily younger people,” said Abigail Echo-Hawk, executive vice president at the Seattle Indian Health Board and director of the Urban Indian Health Institute. “Unfortunately, this is not my reality nor that of the Native community. I lost cousins and fathers and tribal leaders. People that were so integral to building up our community, which has already been struggling for centuries against all these things that created the perfect environment for covid-19 to kill us.”

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Six of Echo-Hawk’s friends and relatives — all under 55 — have died of covid.

“This is trauma. This is generational impact that we must have an intentional focus on. The scars are there,” said Marcella Nunez-Smith, chair of President Biden’s COVID-19 Health Equity Task Force and associate dean for health equity research at Yale University. “We can’t think that we’re going to test and vaccinate our way out of this deep pain and hurt.”




The pandemic has brought into stark relief centuries of entwining social, environmental, economic and political factors that erode the health and shorten the lives of people of color, putting them at higher risk of the chronic conditions that leave immune systems vulnerable to the coronavirus. Many of those same factors fuel the misinformation, mistrust and fear that leave too many unprotected.

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Take the suggestion that people talk to their doctor about which symptoms warrant testing or a trip to the hospital as well as the safety of vaccines. Seems simple. It’s not.

Many people don’t have a physician they see regularly due in part to significant provider shortages in communities of color. If they do have a doctor, it can cost too much money for a visit even if insured. There are language barriers for those who don’t speak English fluently and fear of deportation among undocumented immigrants.


“Some of the issues at hand are structural issues, things that are built into the fabric of society,” said Enrique W. Neblett Jr., a University of Michigan professor who studies racism and health.

Essential workers who cannot avoid the virus in their jobs because they do not have the luxury of working from home. People living in multigenerational homes with several adult wage-earners, sharing housing because their pay is so low. Even the fight to be counted among the covid casualties — some states and hospitals, Echo-Hawk said, don’t have “even a box to check to say you are American Indian or Alaskan Native.”

It can be difficult to tackle the structural issues influencing the unequal burden of the pandemic while dealing with the day-to-day stress and worry it ignites, which, Neblett said, is why attention must focus on both long-term solutions and “what do we do now? It’s not just that simple as, ‘Oh, you just put on your mask, and we’ll all be good.’ It’s more complicated than that.”






The New York deaths were predominantly recorded in the early months of the pandemic, when the nation's densest area was the first ravaged by the coronavirus. Covid has killed 1 in every 210 people in the Bronx, 1 in every 220 in Queens, and 1 in every 240 in the state's largest county, Brooklyn.


Although nationally there is no difference in death rates between urban, suburban and rural areas, states with the lowest death rates are mostly sparser areas, such as Hawaii and Alaska.




The exacting toll of the last year and a half — covid’s stranglehold on communities of color and George Floyd’s murder — forced the country to interrogate the genealogy of American racism and its effect on health and well-being.

“This is an instance where we finally named it and talked about structural racism as a contributing factor in ways that we haven’t with other health disorders,” Neblett said.

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But the nation’s attention span can be short. Polls show there was a sharp rise in concern about discrimination against Black Americans by police following Floyd’s murder, including among White Americans. That concern has eroded some since 2020, though it does remain higher than years past.

“This mistaken understanding that people have, almost this sort of impatience like, ‘Oh, we see racism. Let’s just fix that,’ that’s the thing that gives me hives,” Nunez-Smith said. “This is about generational investments and fundamental changes in ways of being. We didn’t get here overnight.”

 
I remember when Fauci said there would be over 2,000,000 deaths. So we must have done something right, right?
Fauci said without mitigation and without a working vaccine (remember, no one knew it could be created in less than a year) that was a possibility. Considering we might get close to a million WITH a vaccine, hard to think he was wrong.
 
Fauci said without mitigation and without a working vaccine (remember, no one knew it could be created in less than a year) that was a possibility. Considering we might get close to a million WITH a vaccine, hard to think he was wrong.

There was no vaccine for 12 months. So your "we might get close to a million WITH a vaccine" is disingenuous.
 
That’s a great reminder of how good modern medicine is.

seeing all the fat people walking around Kinnick a few weeks ago just made me realize how a lot of people would be dead already without all the prescription drugs we created.
 
There was no vaccine for 12 months. So your "we might get close to a million WITH a vaccine" is disingenuous.
Huh? We are approaching 700K deaths now, it isn't implausible to think we will get close to 1 million before all is said-and-done despite the fact a vaccine has been free and widely available for around 6 months now.

So yeah, if we were still waiting on a vaccine, we'd likely have already surpassed the 1 million mark and been well on our way to Fauci's 2 million prediction.
 
May the people who did everything in thier power who still pershished rest in peace.


Watch for a change in how deaths are being recorded or "with vs of". This admin needs a win.
 
Huh? We are approaching 700K deaths now, it isn't implausible to think we will get close to 1 million before all is said-and-done despite the fact a vaccine has been free and widely available for around 6 months now.

So yeah, if we were still waiting on a vaccine, we'd likely have already surpassed the 1 million mark and been well on our way to Fauci's 2 million prediction.

You said were going to get close to a million with a vaccine. My point is we've only had a vaccine for 8-9 months so your statement is disingenuous. We've had more COVID exposure without a vaccine than with a vaccine.
 
I remember when several posters were roundly mocked and laughed at for predicting 600K deaths in early 2020.

The pathetic thing is, it didn't HAVE to be that high. People are stupid morons.
I’ll admit, I was one of those posters.
 
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I remember when several posters were roundly mocked and laughed at for predicting 600K deaths in early 2020.

The pathetic thing is, it didn't HAVE to be that high. People are stupid morons.
I was one of those who mocked early projections of a million or more deaths. In my defense, every 2-3 years my entire life I’ve watched the media hysterically project the next pandemic.

Swine flu. Asian flu. SARS. Hong Kong flu. Monkeypox. Ebola. Mad Cow Disease.

Everyone who ever ate a hamburger was going to die an agonizing death as toxic prions slowly destroyed our brains.

We’ve had multiple coronaviruses originate in or near China and they typically kill a few thousand people in China and neighboring countries but do very little damage in North America.

At some point you just start rolling your eyes at all the doom-and-gloom predictions.

Once we hit 1000 deaths in the US and they started stacking bodies outside morgues in Italy and France, I quickly realized we were in for a rough go of it.
 
I was one of those who mocked early projections of a million or more deaths. In my defense, every 2-3 years my entire life I’ve watched the media hysterically project the next pandemic.

Swine flu. Asian flu. SARS. Hong Kong flu. Monkeypox. Ebola. Mad Cow Disease.

Everyone who ever ate a hamburger was going to die an agonizing death as toxic prions slowly destroyed our brains.

We’ve had multiple coronaviruses originate in or near China and they typically kill a few thousand people in China and neighboring countries but do very little damage in North America.

At some point you just start rolling your eyes at all the doom-and-gloom predictions.

Once we hit 1000 deaths in the US and they started stacking bodies outside morgues in Italy and France, I quickly realized we were in for a rough go of it.
My semi-controversial take: If this virus had been even a little more deadly - say 5% mortality instead of <2% or whatever it actually is - I think we might have had LESS deaths overall.

I think you'd have a lot more support for both lockdowns, mitigation efforts and vaccine willingness if the odds of dying were higher. Or, imagine if it was more deadly for children and infants than the elderly and unhealthy - same result.

Covid-19 was almost a perfect blend of sort-of deadly, but not-deadly-enough for everyone to take seriously. And now we are kinda fooked.
 
You said were going to get close to a million with a vaccine. My point is we've only had a vaccine for 8-9 months so your statement is disingenuous. We've had more COVID exposure without a vaccine than with a vaccine.
I get you feel like arguing, but my point is that without mitigation efforts or a vaccine, we very likely would have hit or exceeded 2 million deaths, as Fauci said. Do you disagree?
 
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You said were going to get close to a million with a vaccine. My point is we've only had a vaccine for 8-9 months so your statement is disingenuous. We've had more COVID exposure without a vaccine than with a vaccine.
This makes no sense.
 
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According to the WHO: Sept 21 vs Sept 2020

cases 2021 (with vaccines) 1,034,836

cases 2020 (pre vaccine) 243,864 = 324% increase

deaths 2021 11,371

deaths 2020 5006 = 127% increase

tell me more about how the vaccines help...
 
I remember when Fauci said there would be over 2,000,000 deaths. So we must have done something right, right?
Oh JFC. You're one who hasn't learned this for over 18 months. For the 100th time...that comment was about IF WE DID NOTHING TO MITIGATE. Put it into your brain. Learn.
 
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I remember when several posters were roundly mocked and laughed at for predicting 600K deaths in early 2020.

The pathetic thing is, it didn't HAVE to be that high. People are stupid morons.
We were giving Trump shit about hitting the 600k mark over 10 months or so ago, weren't we. We are only at 664k now. Seems like the deaths have severely been slowed down to a crawl. That's a good thing. How about that "milestone"?
 
We were giving Trump shit about hitting the 600k mark over 10 months or so ago, weren't we. We are only at 664k now. Seems like the deaths have severely been slowed down to a crawl. That's a good thing. How about that "milestone"?
Absolutely good and due almost entirely to vaccine rollout (which we do have to give a little bit of credit to the Trump administration for as well)
 
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I get you feel like arguing, but my point is that without mitigation efforts or a vaccine, we very likely would have hit or exceeded 2 million deaths, as Fauci said. Do you disagree?

Back in May, before the Delta unvaccinated purge, estimates of real death too were already at 900k. There are a whole bunch of other unaccounted deaths compared to normal, most likely representing folks that died but don't have an official test result associated with it. There is little doubt when the final death toll is estimated in the years to come for the US it will be well over a million.

 
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