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I mean this in the best possible way Lou. But fuq your side.This might be a good deal for the general pro choice side. While I think 15 weeks is largely where it will land, and is in line with Europe and most Americans, my guess is that the number of states that are likely to pass laws less than 15 weeks will exceed the states who pass greater than 15 weeks.
If I were the Democrats and cared about abortion access nationally, and the Republicans were actually on board for 15 weeks (with exceptions after), I think I would take it. The public support for abortions after 15 weeks without exception is very small, "Keep late term abortions legal for any reason!" would be a tough issue to run on for Democrats.
We shall see. I believe this sort of legislation, while not satisfying the zealots on either side (including me), would come close to taking the issue off the political table. This is where most Americans are, that early term abortion should be legal, later trimester abortions illegal except in narrow circumstances. It would be tough for either side to run against that.
The zealot you were talking aboutI mean this in the best possible way Lou. But fuq your side.
The zealot you were talking about
Democrats only have themselves to blame. They had 50 years to do something to codify. Yeah, I know they tried in the last 2 months but too little too late. Should have listened when RBG said it was bad law.
No - this is the zealot I'm talking about. And it's because of people like Lou who were willing to vote for the assholes who did this because he didn't want other people making decisions with their bodies that he wouldn't make with his.
Democrats only have themselves to blame. They had 50 years to do something to codify. Yeah, I know they tried in the last 2 months but too little too late. Should have listened when RBG said it was bad law.
Isn't it amazing how republicans always blame democrats for the things that republicans do? yOu cOuLd hAvE stoPpEd uS!1!!1Democrats only have themselves to blame. They had 50 years to do something to codify. Yeah, I know they tried in the last 2 months but too little too late. Should have listened when RBG said it was bad law.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. How about you interview a range of women when it comes to their reproduction and your view will change rather quickly.This might be a good deal for the general pro choice side. While I think 15 weeks is largely where it will land, and is in line with Europe and most Americans, my guess is that the number of states that are likely to pass laws less than 15 weeks will exceed the states who pass greater than 15 weeks.
If I were the Democrats and cared about abortion access nationally, and the Republicans were actually on board for 15 weeks (with exceptions after), I think I would take it. The public support for abortions after 15 weeks without exception is very small, "Keep late term abortions legal for any reason!" would be a tough issue to run on for Democrats.
We shall see. I believe this sort of legislation, while not satisfying the zealots on either side (including me), would come close to taking the issue off the political table. This is where most Americans are, that early term abortion should be legal, later trimester abortions illegal except in narrow circumstances. It would be tough for either side to run against that.
Umm none, hence being constitutional rights. Abortion isn’t in the constitution. This is 5th grade stuffwhat other constitutional rights need to be codified?
Yeah, we all assume that's about when you stopped going.Umm none, hence being constitutional rights. Abortion isn’t in the constitution. This is 5th grade stuff
Umm none, hence being constitutional rights. Abortion isn’t in the constitution. This is 5th grade stuff
Lol I don’t blame anyone, I have no reason to blame anyone for anything regarding this ruling. It was a good move to me. Democrats should blame democrats. They didn’t do what they should have done. Pretty simple, this is how politics work.Isn't it amazing how republicans always blame democrats for the things that republicans do? yOu cOuLd hAvE stoPpEd uS!1!!1
Lol well at least I made it to a civics class. You should go back, Billy Madison!Yeah, we all assume that's about when you stopped going.
Of course you think it's a good ruling - you're an idiot.Lol I don’t blame anyone, I have no reason to blame anyone for anything regarding this ruling. It was a good move to me. Democrats should blame democrats. They didn’t do what they should have done. Pretty simple, this is how politics work.
I don't see how the federal government can make any law on this subject, one way or the other. Article 10
If I had to choose today between no access or a guaranteed 15 week window, it is a pretty easy choice.I mean this in the best possible way Lou. But fuq your side.
What makes you think that? The high level blue vs red split is almost 25/25 (slight lean blue 26/24, 27/23 depending on criteria), of that, there are several light red shading to purple states. You're probably looking at more of 30/20 split when the dust settles.This might be a good deal for the general pro choice side. While I think 15 weeks is largely where it will land, and is in line with Europe and most Americans, my guess is that the number of states that are likely to pass laws less than 15 weeks will exceed the states who pass greater than 15 weeks.
Not covered. Abortion involves DNA that is not your own. Constitution says what it says, sorry. It’s a good day. Many people will get to live a life that otherwise could have been cut down before it started. If you absolutely need to murder your children then go to New Yorkthe right to privacy was until today
Umm none, hence being constitutional rights. Abortion isn’t in the constitution. This is 5th grade stuff
LMAO. Please quote what the constitution says about DNA. Moron.Not covered. Abortion involves DNA that is not your own. Constitution says what it says, sorry. It’s a good day. Many people will get to live a life that otherwise could have been cut down before it started. If you absolutely need to murder your children then go to New York
Well, I’m not the one who left it up to SCOTUS. Seems your team are the idiots. Sorry you’ll have a couple roadblocks to kill your unborn.Of course you think it's a good ruling - you're an idiot.
Not covered. Abortion involves DNA that is not your own. Constitution says what it says, sorry. It’s a good day. Many people will get to live a life that otherwise could have been cut down before it started. If you absolutely need to murder your children then go to New York
None of these infringe on someone else’s rights. Abortion 100% of the time infringes on the unborn’s life. No point in arguing. Go to your state reps and tell them you want to kill the unborn. They are as soulless a creature as you.Nor is women or Air Force or marriage or right to travel or right to vote.
What is in it is the 9th Amendment.
Apparently you stopped reading the Amendments at Number 2.
Already allowed by Gonzalez v. CarhartI don't see how the federal government can make any law on this subject, one way or the other. Article 10
Yeah, you mean the SCOTUS who had already decide the issue two generations ago? But you all decided to destroy our form of govt in order to stop women from doing something that nature already does the majority of the time. Because - sky santa would be sad.Well, I’m not the one who left it up to SCOTUS. Seems your team are the idiots. Sorry you’ll have a couple roadblocks to kill your unborn.
None of these infringe on someone else’s rights. Abortion 100% of the time infringes on the unborn’s life. No point in arguing. Go to your state reps and tell them you want to kill the unborn. They are as soulless a creature as you.
I’m not at all religious. I just don’t believe it should be illegal to kill the unborn. Should have listened to RBG and everyone else that told you this would happenYeah, you mean the SCOTUS who had already decide the issue two generations ago? But you all decided to destroy our form of govt in order to stop women from doing something that nature already does the majority of the time. Because - sky santa would be sad.
What makes you think that? The high level blue vs red split is almost 25/25 (slight lean blue 26/24, 27/23 depending on criteria), of that, there are several light red shading to purple states. You're probably looking at more of 30/20 split when the dust settles.
I’m not at all religious. I just don’t believe it should be illegal to kill the unborn. Should have listened to RBG and everyone else that told you this would happen
None of the things you listed infringe on rights. We can have a discussion about wether they are in the constitution but that’s not the argument and has nothing to do with my position. Abortion is not in the constitution, right to privacy extends to the unborn.Cool. So you abandoned your argument that the word has to be in the Constitution for the right to be enforced and switched to your self-proclaimed moral superiority.
Typical.
If there are any weaknesses to the decision that leaves it up to SCOTUS to decide it’s bad law then yes, absolutelydo we need to codify brown vs BOE too?
So you feel that it is now on pro life to bridge the lack of personal responsibility because they said the states should decide abortion law?In an ideal world we won’t need or feel the need for adoptions.
Over 600,000 adoptions a year.
135,000 adoptions.
425,000 in foster care
Looks like we need many more prolife people stepping up to do their part. The system is already flooded. Now to force a person to have a baby that is unwilling, or unfit. Not to mention the possible young raped children that need to be reminded of the rape for 9+ months.
Again I wish adoptions were not needed, but we all make mistakes.
So, are you agreeing that Conservatives are speaking out both sides of their mouth on this topic? Certainly sounds like you are. Abortion is bad... no abortion... have responsibility. Years later, don't be on welfare or SNAP... and your kid is causing trouble at school or committing crimes due to lack of nuclear family.So you feel that it is now on pro life to bridge the lack of personal responsibility because they said the states should decide abortion law?
Perhaps this will be the great return of personal accountability and being an adult.
We can have a discussion about wether they are in the constitution but that’s not the argument and has nothing to do with my position. Abortion is not in the constitution, right to privacy extends to the unborn.
The vast majority of America also says women should have access to abortions. But...the majority of America says after 15 weeks is about the right spot.
Bitch please. If it was about babies we'd have free maternal care. We'd have months of parental care. We'd have free diapers, formula and childcare. We'd have free preschool and after school programs.I’m not at all religious. I just don’t believe it should be illegal to kill the unborn. Should have listened to RBG and everyone else that told you this would happen