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THE WRESTLING MESSAGE BOARD POSTER’S PLEDGE

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I am a fan. I love my team. I love my team because I love my sport –wrestling– which is the greatest sport in the world because it’s one of the most pure forms of competition ever created, dating back many centuries. Just as there are no balls/nets/bats or other objects exterior to the human body needed to wrestle, there are no teammates who can compete on your behalf. “No one to blame it on but yourself!” as they say. The glory of an accessory-free, single-champion-sport has taught me a sense of rugged individualism, a Randian belief that there are no structural forces that limit my success or anyone else’s other than the will to succeed alone. In this way I apply the lessons I learned from a sport –an activity with simulated boundaries needed for participation– into the boundless world of everyday life. In my mind, they become one and the same. I think to myself: Winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose in both wrestling and life. This comforts me because it allows me to take full ownership of my own relatively comfortable life. No handouts here.

There are some minor problems with this way of thinking, I’ve found. Nothing that can’t be explained. The first issue is that the same 5 teams have won basically every championship in college wrestling since I’ve been alive. Luckily I’m a fan of one of those 5 teams so I’m sympathetic to their permanent success. The fact is, those 5 teams simply work harder than everyone else– just as a CEO works 246x harder than their average employee relative to their respective salaries. Wrestling and the world are one and the same, remember? My idea of wrestling as a pure meritocracy isn’t challenged by the fact that every season is a foregone conclusion because I view that conclusion to be justified by meritocracy. It’s kind of circular thinking, I know, but like they say, “Might is right!”

The other problem is a little deeper, more personal. You see, I was once a wrestler myself. I know I have a beer gut now but I was actually pretty good back then– district champ! I was good, but not great. Certainly not as great as the guys who compete for my favorite team. And here lies the problem: How can I be both a fan of a champion team –thanked on the podium for my support and privately celebrated as a booster– while never being a champion myself? Have the Gods of meritocracy frowned on me? Did I not work hard enough as an athlete? If wrestling is life and my life as a wrestler was average, am I merely average at life? Or worse? These are hard questions, but luckily I have an answer:

Fandom is a competition, and I am the #1 fan. I read all the articles. I follow all the social media accounts. I have subscriptions to watch all I can. But fandom isn’t just about absorbing or even enjoying wrestling, it’s also the ability to project it. For this, I have my trusty message boards. These are the digital battlefields where fandom is won, where hot takes are forged in steel, and where devotional supremacy is established through the ability to recite and predict every detail of my team’s upcoming season. But the only way to truly become a champion is to have a worthy adversary and for that reason I promise you this: I will never stop posting, just as I hope you never stop posting back. Because when competition is at its best there’s only one guaranteed outcome: it’s the fans who win.
 
I am a fan. I love my team. I love my team because I love my sport –wrestling– which is the greatest sport in the world because it’s one of the most pure forms of competition ever created, dating back many centuries. Just as there are no balls/nets/bats or other objects exterior to the human body needed to wrestle, there are no teammates who can compete on your behalf. “No one to blame it on but yourself!” as they say. The glory of an accessory-free, single-champion-sport has taught me a sense of rugged individualism, a Randian belief that there are no structural forces that limit my success or anyone else’s other than the will to succeed alone. In this way I apply the lessons I learned from a sport –an activity with simulated boundaries needed for participation– into the boundless world of everyday life. In my mind, they become one and the same. I think to myself: Winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose in both wrestling and life. This comforts me because it allows me to take full ownership of my own relatively comfortable life. No handouts here.

There are some minor problems with this way of thinking, I’ve found. Nothing that can’t be explained. The first issue is that the same 5 teams have won basically every championship in college wrestling since I’ve been alive. Luckily I’m a fan of one of those 5 teams so I’m sympathetic to their permanent success. The fact is, those 5 teams simply work harder than everyone else– just as a CEO works 246x harder than their average employee relative to their respective salaries. Wrestling and the world are one and the same, remember? My idea of wrestling as a pure meritocracy isn’t challenged by the fact that every season is a foregone conclusion because I view that conclusion to be justified by meritocracy. It’s kind of circular thinking, I know, but like they say, “Might is right!”

The other problem is a little deeper, more personal. You see, I was once a wrestler myself. I know I have a beer gut now but I was actually pretty good back then– district champ! I was good, but not great. Certainly not as great as the guys who compete for my favorite team. And here lies the problem: How can I be both a fan of a champion team –thanked on the podium for my support and privately celebrated as a booster– while never being a champion myself? Have the Gods of meritocracy frowned on me? Did I not work hard enough as an athlete? If wrestling is life and my life as a wrestler was average, am I merely average at life? Or worse? These are hard questions, but luckily I have an answer:

Fandom is a competition, and I am the #1 fan. I read all the articles. I follow all the social media accounts. I have subscriptions to watch all I can. But fandom isn’t just about absorbing or even enjoying wrestling, it’s also the ability to project it. For this, I have my trusty message boards. These are the digital battlefields where fandom is won, where hot takes are forged in steel, and where devotional supremacy is established through the ability to recite and predict every detail of my team’s upcoming season. But the only way to truly become a champion is to have a worthy adversary and for that reason I promise you this: I will never stop posting, just as I hope you never stop posting back. Because when competition is at its best there’s only one guaranteed outcome: it’s the fans who win.
 
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I am a fan. I love my team. I love my team because I love my sport –wrestling– which is the greatest sport in the world because it’s one of the most pure forms of competition ever created, dating back many centuries. Just as there are no balls/nets/bats or other objects exterior to the human body needed to wrestle, there are no teammates who can compete on your behalf. “No one to blame it on but yourself!” as they say. The glory of an accessory-free, single-champion-sport has taught me a sense of rugged individualism, a Randian belief that there are no structural forces that limit my success or anyone else’s other than the will to succeed alone. In this way I apply the lessons I learned from a sport –an activity with simulated boundaries needed for participation– into the boundless world of everyday life. In my mind, they become one and the same. I think to myself: Winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose in both wrestling and life. This comforts me because it allows me to take full ownership of my own relatively comfortable life. No handouts here.

There are some minor problems with this way of thinking, I’ve found. Nothing that can’t be explained. The first issue is that the same 5 teams have won basically every championship in college wrestling since I’ve been alive. Luckily I’m a fan of one of those 5 teams so I’m sympathetic to their permanent success. The fact is, those 5 teams simply work harder than everyone else– just as a CEO works 246x harder than their average employee relative to their respective salaries. Wrestling and the world are one and the same, remember? My idea of wrestling as a pure meritocracy isn’t challenged by the fact that every season is a foregone conclusion because I view that conclusion to be justified by meritocracy. It’s kind of circular thinking, I know, but like they say, “Might is right!”

The other problem is a little deeper, more personal. You see, I was once a wrestler myself. I know I have a beer gut now but I was actually pretty good back then– district champ! I was good, but not great. Certainly not as great as the guys who compete for my favorite team. And here lies the problem: How can I be both a fan of a champion team –thanked on the podium for my support and privately celebrated as a booster– while never being a champion myself? Have the Gods of meritocracy frowned on me? Did I not work hard enough as an athlete? If wrestling is life and my life as a wrestler was average, am I merely average at life? Or worse? These are hard questions, but luckily I have an answer:

Fandom is a competition, and I am the #1 fan. I read all the articles. I follow all the social media accounts. I have subscriptions to watch all I can. But fandom isn’t just about absorbing or even enjoying wrestling, it’s also the ability to project it. For this, I have my trusty message boards. These are the digital battlefields where fandom is won, where hot takes are forged in steel, and where devotional supremacy is established through the ability to recite and predict every detail of my team’s upcoming season. But the only way to truly become a champion is to have a worthy adversary and for that reason I promise you this: I will never stop posting, just as I hope you never stop posting back. Because when competition is at its best there’s only one guaranteed outcome: it’s the fans who win.
Right on… I’ve been hoping Mudflap would eventually show up under a new guise..
 
Cliff notes: bla bla bla… The number one fan of the hawks was also a district champ, but maybe only true champs can legitimately root for champs?
 
I am a fan. I love my team. I love my team because I love my sport –wrestling– which is the greatest sport in the world because it’s one of the most pure forms of competition ever created, dating back many centuries. Just as there are no balls/nets/bats or other objects exterior to the human body needed to wrestle, there are no teammates who can compete on your behalf. “No one to blame it on but yourself!” as they say. The glory of an accessory-free, single-champion-sport has taught me a sense of rugged individualism, a Randian belief that there are no structural forces that limit my success or anyone else’s other than the will to succeed alone. In this way I apply the lessons I learned from a sport –an activity with simulated boundaries needed for participation– into the boundless world of everyday life. In my mind, they become one and the same. I think to myself: Winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose in both wrestling and life. This comforts me because it allows me to take full ownership of my own relatively comfortable life. No handouts here.

There are some minor problems with this way of thinking, I’ve found. Nothing that can’t be explained. The first issue is that the same 5 teams have won basically every championship in college wrestling since I’ve been alive. Luckily I’m a fan of one of those 5 teams so I’m sympathetic to their permanent success. The fact is, those 5 teams simply work harder than everyone else– just as a CEO works 246x harder than their average employee relative to their respective salaries. Wrestling and the world are one and the same, remember? My idea of wrestling as a pure meritocracy isn’t challenged by the fact that every season is a foregone conclusion because I view that conclusion to be justified by meritocracy. It’s kind of circular thinking, I know, but like they say, “Might is right!”

The other problem is a little deeper, more personal. You see, I was once a wrestler myself. I know I have a beer gut now but I was actually pretty good back then– district champ! I was good, but not great. Certainly not as great as the guys who compete for my favorite team. And here lies the problem: How can I be both a fan of a champion team –thanked on the podium for my support and privately celebrated as a booster– while never being a champion myself? Have the Gods of meritocracy frowned on me? Did I not work hard enough as an athlete? If wrestling is life and my life as a wrestler was average, am I merely average at life? Or worse? These are hard questions, but luckily I have an answer:

Fandom is a competition, and I am the #1 fan. I read all the articles. I follow all the social media accounts. I have subscriptions to watch all I can. But fandom isn’t just about absorbing or even enjoying wrestling, it’s also the ability to project it. For this, I have my trusty message boards. These are the digital battlefields where fandom is won, where hot takes are forged in steel, and where devotional supremacy is established through the ability to recite and predict every detail of my team’s upcoming season. But the only way to truly become a champion is to have a worthy adversary and for that reason I promise you this: I will never stop posting, just as I hope you never stop posting back. Because when competition is at its best there’s only one guaranteed outcome: it’s the fans who win.
This is an obvious troll job…nobody really thinks that…especially that CEOs work 246x harder than their underlings.
 
Is that right Cap’n? So, you’re some kinda socialist?

However, we all know it’s more in the range of 83x, now, don’t we?
Had to look it up because, frankly, I can’t keep up.

Post Covid, we are over 320x difference between average CEO salary+benefits vs employees.

Obviously our “freedom” is ringing for the corporate elite only, however deluded many people choose to be.

its not like this in most other developed countries. We’ve chosen this awful reality. And we can change it.

Happy Independence Day!

 
Had to look it up because, frankly, I can’t keep up.

Post Covid, we are over 320x difference between average CEO salary+benefits vs employees.

Obviously our “freedom” is ringing for the corporate elite only, however deluded many people choose to be.

its not like this in most other developed countries. We’ve chosen this awful reality. And we can change it.

Happy Independence Day!

Damn. I misspoke. And this is a year old, looking at data pre Covid. The new ratio hasn’t even come in yet, after C19 decimated the labor market and shifted wealth upward even more.

Anyone who defends this horrific neoliberal predatory system we have simply loves getting bled to death.
 
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Had to look it up because, frankly, I can’t keep up.

Post Covid, we are over 320x difference between average CEO salary+benefits vs employees.

Obviously our “freedom” is ringing for the corporate elite only, however deluded many people choose to be.

its not like this in most other developed countries. We’ve chosen this awful reality. And we can change it.

Happy Independence Day!

It’s now clear to me that you don’t love our Grate Country.
 
Had to look it up because, frankly, I can’t keep up.

Post Covid, we are over 320x difference between average CEO salary+benefits vs employees.

Obviously our “freedom” is ringing for the corporate elite only, however deluded many people choose to be.

its not like this in most other developed countries. We’ve chosen this awful reality. And we can change it.

Happy Independence Day!

Please feel free to move to any one of these "most other developed countries", best of luck to you and your family, hope you enjoy it there.
 
Never said it is perfect, but if all I talked about was how awesomely other countries were doing things, I'd be packing my bags right now.
Sorry, mon. Guess I missed the posts in this thread about other countries being awesome…
 
I am a fan. I love my team. I love my team because I love my sport –wrestling– which is the greatest sport in the world because it’s one of the most pure forms of competition ever created, dating back many centuries. Just as there are no balls/nets/bats or other objects exterior to the human body needed to wrestle, there are no teammates who can compete on your behalf. “No one to blame it on but yourself!” as they say. The glory of an accessory-free, single-champion-sport has taught me a sense of rugged individualism, a Randian belief that there are no structural forces that limit my success or anyone else’s other than the will to succeed alone. In this way I apply the lessons I learned from a sport –an activity with simulated boundaries needed for participation– into the boundless world of everyday life. In my mind, they become one and the same. I think to myself: Winners find a way to win, losers find a way to lose in both wrestling and life. This comforts me because it allows me to take full ownership of my own relatively comfortable life. No handouts here.

There are some minor problems with this way of thinking, I’ve found. Nothing that can’t be explained. The first issue is that the same 5 teams have won basically every championship in college wrestling since I’ve been alive. Luckily I’m a fan of one of those 5 teams so I’m sympathetic to their permanent success. The fact is, those 5 teams simply work harder than everyone else– just as a CEO works 246x harder than their average employee relative to their respective salaries. Wrestling and the world are one and the same, remember? My idea of wrestling as a pure meritocracy isn’t challenged by the fact that every season is a foregone conclusion because I view that conclusion to be justified by meritocracy. It’s kind of circular thinking, I know, but like they say, “Might is right!”

The other problem is a little deeper, more personal. You see, I was once a wrestler myself. I know I have a beer gut now but I was actually pretty good back then– district champ! I was good, but not great. Certainly not as great as the guys who compete for my favorite team. And here lies the problem: How can I be both a fan of a champion team –thanked on the podium for my support and privately celebrated as a booster– while never being a champion myself? Have the Gods of meritocracy frowned on me? Did I not work hard enough as an athlete? If wrestling is life and my life as a wrestler was average, am I merely average at life? Or worse? These are hard questions, but luckily I have an answer:

Fandom is a competition, and I am the #1 fan. I read all the articles. I follow all the social media accounts. I have subscriptions to watch all I can. But fandom isn’t just about absorbing or even enjoying wrestling, it’s also the ability to project it. For this, I have my trusty message boards. These are the digital battlefields where fandom is won, where hot takes are forged in steel, and where devotional supremacy is established through the ability to recite and predict every detail of my team’s upcoming season. But the only way to truly become a champion is to have a worthy adversary and for that reason I promise you this: I will never stop posting, just as I hope you never stop posting back. Because when competition is at its best there’s only one guaranteed outcome: it’s the fans who win.
Because F*** Wisconsin, that's why....
 
This wrestling board has 320x less actual Iowa wrestling information on it than it used to, and when the rare morsel of information/discussion happens it turns into a shitshow. There is nothing normal here. In this thread alone we go from schizophrenic ramblings to financial inequities of capitalism—frustrating when one is just looking for a normal discussion—on wrestling.
 
This wrestling board has 320x less actual Iowa wrestling information on it than it used to, and when the rare morsel of information/discussion happens it turns into a shitshow. There is nothing normal here. In this thread alone we go from schizophrenic ramblings to financial inequities of capitalism—frustrating when one is just looking for a normal discussion—on wrestling.
Right on. Be the change you want to see….

Btw, it’s off-season and not much wrestling news. So, some folks turn to humor. And this thread is wrestling related humor.
 
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I paid for the main board for damn near 20 years but always came here for wrestling talk.... dropped the pay board as I started examining how many “subscriptions” I was paying..... this board has always been kinda bad in the off season but it’s becoming more and more troll infested....
that being said the free football and basketball boards are a complete shitshow.... almost ready to go back to subscribing to HR at least it’s monitored
I’ll always continue to check in on the cesspool though..... don’t comment much but I cruise through every day and appreciate the posters who keep it informative and “humorous”
 
I’m not reading that. Cliff notes?

this is pretty close.

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Party on el Dub
 
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Never said it is perfect, but if all I talked about was how awesomely other countries were doing things, I'd be packing my bags right now.
You must be pretty ignorant to how immigration/emigration works. Not quite as easy as packing bags and hopping on a plane. Visas don't come easy without marriage. If borders were open between countries, you can guarantee there'd be substantial more mobility in and out of the U.S.
 
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