They’ve beat us 3 in a row now. On the road, neutral site and in Iowa City. And they’re currently missing their starting pt guard. I actually thought we did a lot of good things but there’s a 5-10% chance we beat them at their place. Don’t see it.
This is a soild tournament team.
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cmac and JBO are not 19 and 22 min guys. CMAC is 5 min, JBO maybe 12-20 depending on if he is getting his shots off and making them.
I don't think it makes sense to switch out to and entirely different 2nd 5. It made sense in 1st half vs Illini because strarters sucked, but everybody else in b-ball plays there top 7-8 and beyond that it is only a few minutes for 9 and 10 guys.
This team can be very good, but it depends on how FM does coaching during games. His in game coaching/substitutions leaves a lot to be desired.
The hall mark of Fran's better teams at Iowa is they are veteran groups and they have tended to peak early and they get passed over by younger teams that improve with young players.
Last year, Fran needed to commit to defense and go with more Perkins, both Murray's, and JoeT---he didn't and he rolled out the same starting 5 every game they could play. By the time the oregon game rolled around, Fran went with CMAC with two bad hips, JBO with two hip replacement surgeries, and Redacted Fredrick who had a bad leg. He has two of those guys back and they may be healthy, but one still can't shoot and the other can't guard well and has trouble getting his shot off.
This team is talented enought to get to 0.500 in B1G, make the NcAA, and then at least have a chance of upsetting a big boy. That assumes Fran plays the best players, which is unlikley to happen given his track record.
Iowa forced Illinois into 14 turnovers and only committed 4. Illinois is a bad matchup with a true big body center and Iowa still should have won that game.
I see Iowa as a tournament team this season. They are athletic and get after it on defense. They take care of the ball on offense. They just need to hit open shots. I expect they will do that more nights than not.
I see Iowa as a tournament team this season. They are athletic and get after it on defense. They take care of the ball on offense. They just need to hit open shots. I expect they will do that more nights than not.
You guys got a good one in Plummer. Need to cut down on turnovers big time and maybe find one more guy who can give quality minutes off the bench, but will otherwise be a top 2 or 3 seed in March
I’m more down on Iowa than anybody but yes, we should definitely win again in Hilton.
If we can’t beat no.17 in Ames, we’re even worse than I thought we were.
That is a tournament team
Depends. A win over Iowa State would help out a lot. Team needs to continue to grow.
They do need to get over that hump, though, of winning a big conference game themselves......
Virginia is not the "Virginia" of recent years, so you can't hang your hat on that, either.
Fran needs to get over the hump.
He has a good team if can give the minutes to the best players and stop playing zone.
If he continues to limit Kris, Tony and Ulis and make them play zone then its going to be a long frustrating season.
This team is a fringe tourney team as of now, but a lot of fun to watch, and the potential is there. These guys are scrappy.
JBO should have a very short leash. Either the 3 is falling consistently right away, or GTFO. Connor, I'm not sure should ever be on the floor for any reason.
JBO should have a very short leash. Either the 3 is falling consistently right away, or GTFO. Connor, I'm not sure should ever be on the floor for any reason.
It seems like Fran does do what you are saying. If Bohannon is not getting many shots, Fran will ride with Ulis and Perkins. He did against Purdue anyway. Fran will have some interesting decisions to make going forward. Kr. Murray, Perkins and Ulis are playing well enough that their play demands more time. Fran has 5th and 6th year players in Connor McC and Bohannon that he does keep giving time to. How this gets handled will impact much of how the season goes.
Iowa's NET is still fantastic and IMO that Virginia win will be a Q1 win all season. That's huge.
Iowa has ISU obviously on Thursday, you get that one I think you're in great shape.
Even with a loss though, you have 3 more noncon games. Utah State is no slouch and they have a pretty good NET ranking too so that will be a good win. That's 10-3 going into the 18 conference games.
You go 9-9 I think you're in. Bart Torvik still has Iowa at 21-10 (11-9) and that would for sure get you in.
Iowa has ISU obviously on Thursday, you get that one I think you're in great shape.
Even with a loss though, you have 3 more noncon games. Utah State is no slouch and they have a pretty good NET ranking too so that will be a good win. That's 10-3 going into the 18 conference games.
You go 9-9 I think you're in. Bart Torvik still has Iowa at 21-10 (11-9) and that would for sure get you in.
This Iowa team has a long way to go to be a tournament team. The lack of a big and rebounding is going to kill this team all season. Fran has to do a better job with his substitutions as well. He needs to take advantage of using TV timeouts to get guys extra rest. I thought Underwood did a great of that last night, especially with Kofi.
I tend to agree with your thoughts here. However, what makes you confident that Fran can make the changes as you described? Coaches are notoriously stubborn and I am not sure there is a current assistant that can convince Fran to make chose changes.
So, why do you think it will happen? Please convince me.
I'm not sure honestly.I tend to agree with your thoughts here. However, what makes you confident that Fran can make the changes as you described? Coaches are notoriously stubborn and I am not sure there is a current assistant that can convince Fran to make chose changes.
So, why do you think it will happen? Please convince me.
I guess because the changes needed are so fvcking obvious I can't wrap my brain around how a professional coach could ignore them.
But he continues to attempt to play zone so his ability to ignore the obvious is already going beyond what I would have thought possible.
I think he went to zone against Illinois because he was worried about the bigs fouling out against Kofi.
Probably and that is a ridiculous reason.
You don't prioritize avoiding fouls especially when you have two other bigs on the bench.
That zone is a disaster every time.
Here’s the problem with what you’re saying. When we were in our full court zone press it’s much harder to drop back and play man. I’m not disagreeing about us playing zone in a normal game but most teams after scrambling in the press drop back into zone.
I would hold off on that prediction. Ankle injuries can linger for a long time. Hopefully he doesn't roll it in practice or in another game.
They only played zone in the first half.
They built the 9 pt lead, Fran went to zone and it instantly disappeared by giving up open 3s.
The whole second half they were playing man including after pressing except out of bounds plays.
Iowa will be fine. Purdue is the #1 team in the nation, and the Hawkeyes took them to the wire in Mackey. Illinois had literally two rough games - one without Kofi, both with Curbelo injured - but was #10 in the nation just a couple weeks ago, and they’ve regained some of that form.
For a team picked tenth in the Big Ten, there is no way to say Iowa hasn’t impressed. Close losses to Purdue and Illinois are hardly the red flags people here are maintaining.
For a team picked tenth in the Big Ten, there is no way to say Iowa hasn’t impressed. Close losses to Purdue and Illinois are hardly the red flags people here are maintaining.
I still think this is a solid tournament team. Could have easily won the first two conference games.
But Fran is severely limiting the upside by playing his made men and just being an overall mediocre coach.
The reason im still positive is these last three games Iowa has probably left 15 to 20 points per game off the board from just missing point blank shots.
They've missed a seasons worth of layups in 3 games.
Keegan alone probably missed 6 or 7 dunks/layups tonight. Thats basically the difference in the game.
I do not think that will continue nor do I think the rebounding will continue to be anywhere near as horrible as it has been.
Its not going to be good but just not horrible.
5-27 3 point shooting and gettng killed by around 18 boards again....
This team may end up OK 3pt shooting team but their std deviation game to game is too high because
most of the guys shooting them are streaky both ways and not pure shooters.
If I had to guess, this looks like an 8 win B1G team right now but they do have some upside.
17 defensive rebounds vs ISU and ISU had 21 offensive rebounds. Iowa needs to be getting
north of 70% of the defensive rebounds, not less than 50%. I would say playing zone and
lack of effort/toughness are the problems.
This team may end up OK 3pt shooting team but their std deviation game to game is too high because
most of the guys shooting them are streaky both ways and not pure shooters.
If I had to guess, this looks like an 8 win B1G team right now but they do have some upside.
17 defensive rebounds vs ISU and ISU had 21 offensive rebounds. Iowa needs to be getting
north of 70% of the defensive rebounds, not less than 50%. I would say playing zone and
lack of effort/toughness are the problems.
They aren't a fringe tourney team right now. They don't have a single good win on their resume.
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