This Is Why People Are Pissed Off At Socialism
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I always enjoy when people use places like North Korea to try and disprove socialism.
Not to mention his choice of South American countries is particularly amusing, since the majority of their problems is caused by the legacy of Colonialism, capitalism run amok!
OK. Doesn't Botswana have a legacy of colonialism? How do you explain their relative prosperity in Africa?
How about the United States? The US has a legacy of colonialism.
Where does "capitalism run amok"?
People who fear capitalism are the people who are too lazy to get involved in it. I'd also like to point out that America in less than 300 yrs time became the most prosperous and most powerful economy in the world due to capitalism.
I always enjoy when people try to preach the good of socialism. Fidel Castro, Mao Zedong, Lenin, and other dictators always enjoyed the preaching of socialism. They also enjoyed brutality and murdering their own people as well.
I don't have a problem with Capitalism. But the hand's off unregulated capitalism was proven to be terrible for people in the late 19th century and early 20th century.
If you really think that's a good idea you either already have a ton of money that you don't have to worry about being exploited or you simply are ignoring the history of the exploitation of workers.
Mao is the greatest murderer in history. He let 50 million of his countrymen starve back in the 50's. That's a true barometer of communism.
I don't have a problem with Capitalism. But the hand's off unregulated capitalism was proven to be terrible for people in the late 19th century and early 20th century.
If you really think that's a good idea you either already have a ton of money that you don't have to worry about being exploited or you simply are ignoring the history of the exploitation of workers.
Who's making the argument for unregulated capitalism?
I have seen no pro-lais·sez-faire arguments here.
Those children were free to seek other employment!
I don't have a problem with Capitalism. But the hand's off unregulated capitalism was proven to be terrible for people in the late 19th century and early 20th century.
If you really think that's a good idea you either already have a ton of money that you don't have to worry about being exploited or you simply are ignoring the history of the exploitation of workers.
Most socialists are happy to vote for tax increases that they and others in their bracket will all have to pay.
We have a mixed economy...the question is where the line is drawn...
I don't have a problem with Capitalism. But the hand's off unregulated capitalism was proven to be terrible for people in the late 19th century and early 20th century.
If you really think that's a good idea you either already have a ton of money that you don't have to worry about being exploited or you simply are ignoring the history of the exploitation of workers.
It's amazing that so many so-called progressives live 100-200 years in the past.
There is a difference between living in it and being mindful of what happened.
That picture is wrong on both sides. The socialist would see it as gluttony...the capitalist doesnt really care as long as they get theirs.
Not many are pushing for full blown socialism here. Especially no the kind you bring up with Stalin and Mao.
So the socialist is jealous and the capitalist is indifferent and worried about taking care of their own problems?
Got it.
You don't meet a whole lot of absolutists either way. The last time I knew an actual pure socialist was back in the UI days. Also, I don't know many people who are for unfettered capitalism. I made 6 figures and lived very well. I would hardly call my taxation punishment.
I don't know of any socialists who begrudge anyone a house like that.
I don't know of any capitalists who are willing to pay the carpenters, electricians, plumbers and lawn care people enough to be able to afford that house.
You are a typical conservative who wants to deceive.
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I've lived in and near Berkeley, California for over 20 years.
How many capitalists do you know who are willing to pay people who do work for them enough to buy a house like the one in the picture.
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Central and northern Europe seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.
That's about a $500k home in Iowa. They're all over the suburbs of any of the major hubs. That's a bit north of my current home, but I would imagine many on here live in similar neighborhoods.
Sorry about your Berekely thing. We all have crosses to bear.
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Any capitalist would be willing to pay those people what the market is for their services. If the market doesn't allow for the carpenters, etc. to live in the house they want, they are free to pursue work that does. Or not.
You are a typical liberal who wants to eliminate personal accountability.
This was the original picture:
This was the original pic that I have been responding to. I know no socialists or liberals who are disgusted by a house like that.
If a capitalist wants everyone to be able to live in a house like that he should be willing to pay his yard maintenance people, and the people who actually built the house enough to be able to afford it.
The pic is a deception.
I wouldn't entirely disagree with the first but the 2nd is just silly.
Everyone should be able to live like this*
* Unless they grew up poor and couldn't afford an education
Or arn't lucky enough to have the connections to get a top job
Or havn't come up with a super awesome business idea
Or want to spend more then 3 hours a week with their family
Or work at an unskilled job or a job less skilled then mine.
Or are disabled
Or havn't been able to get a job, in which case they should starve.
Others are right, if a capitalist really believed all that he'd pay everyone that works for him enough money to allow them to live like that.
I don't hate capitalism, I think when regulated it's probably the least evil of all economic systems but by itself it's not an altruistic system. People who believe that EVERYONE should have a certain standard of living usually advocate for measures that Capitalism's biggest fans tend to hate. You know public health care and things like that.
