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This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

Reading the article generally means reading the first paragraph.

Here it is:

Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) on Sunday said Congress does not need to pass “Democrat bills” with big price tags to help Ukraine, saying the incoming Republican majority in the House will spend less money to fund Kyiv’s war against Russia.

So, yes, according to the article, the "Republican majority in the House will spend less money to fund Kyiv’s war against Russia".
It would be nice to know how much of the advertised money actually made it to Ukraine, you know, accountability. Any idea?
 
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Meddling does not equal a coup.
Do you consider it a violation of national sovereignty?

A vote was had to assume power. That is not a coup.
So, if on Jan 6 a “quorum” of Senators voted for Biden’s “removal” after he flees violent protestors taking over government buildings, that wouldn’t be a coup in your eyes even though it doesn’t follow the constitutional method of removing a president from office, because…? They held a vote?
I’ve asked this question before, but you never fill in the blank of why that would be a coup here, but that happening over there (with the addition of our acknowledged ‘meddling’) somehow isn’t one.
 
Perhaps I am conflating your posts with others you "liked". Per the other article linked:

"The aid package provides $19 billion for immediate military support to Ukraine, continuing the effort that has been vital to sustaining Ukrainian resistance, and $3.9 billion to sustain U.S. forces deployed to Europe. The package also contains about $16 billion for economic support to Ukraine, global humanitarian relief, and a wide variety of international programs as well as $2 billion for long-term support to NATO allies and DOD modernization programs."

So $19B, not $8B, is for immediate military support for Ukraine, and another $16B is for Ukraine and humanitarian relief. I don't know how that is broken down. Then there is another $5.9B for US forces in Europe, DOD modernization programs, and NATO, which allows us to further support Ukraine in the war effort, either directly indirectly. I am not sure what part of that is "Democrat" or "objectionable." I am sure you will tell me why.
You most definitely are conflating or making false assumptions. But regardless, the point is: support isnt faltering despite the sensationalized headline.
 
Fighting around the key eastern Ukraine town of Bakhmut has descended into a bloody morass with hundreds of dead and injured reported daily, as neither Russian or Ukrainian forces were able to make a significant breakthrough after months of fighting.

As Russia moved fresh formations to the area in recent weeks, including reinforcements previously in the Kherson region, the fighting in the Bakhmut sector has descended into trench warfare reminiscent of the first world war.


Over the weekend, images emerged of Ukrainian soldiers in flooded, muddy trenches and battlefields dotted with the stumps of trees cut down by withering artillery barrages.

Heavy fighting continued on Monday around Soledar, with mercenaries from Russia’s Wagner private military corporation – which includes pardoned convicts – in the forefront.

Ukraine’s presidential office said on Monday that at least four civilians had been killed and 11 others wounded in the latest Russian attacks. It said intense fighting was continuing along the frontline in the east, with the Russians shelling Bakhmut and Toretsk at the epicentre of the fighting.

“People are sheltering in the basements, many of which are filled by water,” said the governor of Donetsk, Pavlo Kyrylenko. “They have been living in catastrophic conditions without power or heating.”

The focus of much of the recent fighting, however, has been the now-shattered town of Bakhmut itself, largely abandoned by its 70,000 residents, with both sides sending reinforcements for a battle that has continued relentlessly since the summer as Moscow has sought to secure a victory after a series of battlefield setbacks and retreats.

 
Image yesterday from around Bakhmut...very WW1 like...


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and another one...

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Welcome to Bakhmut: the new Passchendaele​

Horrors of First World War echoed in Ukraine as trench combat and heavy shelling take their toll

 
For any republicans here against funding Ukraine against its fight for survival against Russia, ask yourself what Ronald Reagan would do. He’d bury the needle at full throttle.
God I love our country.
It isn't Reagan's GOP anymore. Make sure to write your new congressman elect and tell him that you expect Iowa's delegation to support Ukraine, and to stand firm against Putin's puppets.
 
Fantastic read on china’s woes and concerns as they relate to the war.

Xi bet on the wrong horse. It's costing his economy, and it's showing the world that authoritarian strongmen are having a really bad year.
Xi has a lot of problems, as mentioned in the article.
 
It isn't Reagan's GOP anymore. Make sure to write your new congressman elect and tell him that you expect Iowa's delegation to support Ukraine, and to stand firm against Putin's puppets.
Just a reminder for some...

“Let us now begin… a crusade for freedom that will engage the faith and fortitude of the next generation. For the sake of peace and justice, let us move toward a world in which all people are at last free to determine their own destiny.”
Ronald Reagan, June 1982

“[The Soviets] preach the supremacy of the state, declare its omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the earth; they are the focus of evil in the modern world.”
Ronald Reagan, March 1983

“Make no mistake about it, this attack was not just against ourselves or the Republic of Korea. This was the Soviet Union against the world and the moral precepts which guide human relations among people everywhere. It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and the value of human life… They deny the deed, but in their conflicting and misleading protestations the Soviets reveal that, yes, shooting down a plane, even one with hundreds of innocent men, women, children and babies, is a part of their normal procedure if that plane is in what they claim as their airspace.”
Ronald Reagan on the Korean Air disaster, September 1983
 
yeah, Ukraine has bad options either side. A freezing winter allows their military to continue to progress more easily as they retake land from the Russians. However that means many of their civilians will freeze and risk major health issues as well. A milder winter is better for the civilians in that regard but will make it very difficult for either side to progress leading to a stalemate and giving Russia some time to rebuild and redeploy assets without the constant pressure from ukrain's advances.
 
yeah, Ukraine has bad options either side. A freezing winter allows their military to continue to progress more easily as they retake land from the Russians. However that means many of their civilians will freeze and risk major health issues as well. A milder winter is better for the civilians in that regard but will make it very difficult for either side to progress leading to a stalemate and giving Russia some time to rebuild and redeploy assets without the constant pressure from ukrain's advances.
I guess I am hopeful the world pulls together and makes Ukraine at least habitable during the winter, while the frozen ground allows for blitzes, as deemed appropriate.
 
I guess I am hopeful the world pulls together and makes Ukraine at least habitable during the winter, while the frozen ground allows for blitzes, as deemed appropriate.
They're sending tons of generators to Ukraine. It's going to be hard to get large range coverage with them, but at least they can heat critical infrastructure. In the end, I think even the freezing weather is in their benefit as it will be uncomfortable but it's better than just letting Russia keep replenishing missiles to rain down on their head during a pause in fighting.
 
They're sending tons of generators to Ukraine. It's going to be hard to get large range coverage with them, but at least they can heat critical infrastructure. In the end, I think even the freezing weather is in their benefit as it will be uncomfortable but it's better than just letting Russia keep replenishing missiles to rain down on their head during a pause in fighting.
Agreed. And it's been a few pages, but I will echo again how much Russia sucks ass.
 
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Just a reminder for some...

“Let us now begin… a crusade for freedom that will engage the faith and fortitude of the next generation. For the sake of peace and justice, let us move toward a world in which all people are at last free to determine their own destiny.”
Ronald Reagan, June 1982

“[The Soviets] preach the supremacy of the state, declare its omnipotence over individual man, and predict its eventual domination of all peoples on the earth; they are the focus of evil in the modern world.”
Ronald Reagan, March 1983

“Make no mistake about it, this attack was not just against ourselves or the Republic of Korea. This was the Soviet Union against the world and the moral precepts which guide human relations among people everywhere. It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and the value of human life… They deny the deed, but in their conflicting and misleading protestations the Soviets reveal that, yes, shooting down a plane, even one with hundreds of innocent men, women, children and babies, is a part of their normal procedure if that plane is in what they claim as their airspace.”
Ronald Reagan on the Korean Air disaster, September 1983
I respect this thread and don't want to derail it, but those quotes are from 40 years ago, and the man who said them is dead. There is no standard bearer in the GOP who is echoing Reagan today. They are busy following Orange Jesus, or at least hiding from him and his cult.
We are about to see a stunning lack of courage coming from the House, and Iowa's delegation is going to sit meekly by as the nut jobs attempt to turn off the pipeline delivering arms and money to defend the very things you quoted.
 
It has slowed, however I was heartened by Alexander Vindman on Lib TV today. He said that although the first month or two of winter will be brutal, it will be far worse on the Russians. The Ukrainians will be resilient, and they will get the right supplies from the West. Their troops will have food, and will be rotated back on a regular basis. The Russians, he said, are callous towards their own troops, and will do little to ease their suffering.
My addition to this is we will see the Russians continue to throw corpses onto the pile as combat and the cold claims all those new conscripts.
 
I respect this thread and don't want to derail it, but those quotes are from 40 years ago, and the man who said them is dead. There is no standard bearer in the GOP who is echoing Reagan today. They are busy following Orange Jesus, or at least hiding from him and his cult.
We are about to see a stunning lack of courage coming from the House, and Iowa's delegation is going to sit meekly by as the nut jobs attempt to turn off the pipeline delivering arms and money to defend the very things you quoted.
I am an independent who abhors the current GOP, leans left now, but respects respectable tenets and philosophies no matter who said them. Sometimes people need a reminder of respectable tenets. But, probably further discourse on the topic is best left for another thread.
 
Videos like this one are anecdotal, but it's amazing to think about how much damage has been done by $100 drones dropping mortar shells. Sure, the HIMARS, Stingers, Javelins, and all of that precision stuff is neat, but in so many of those videos you see Russians huddling in fear, or oblivious to the danger presented by a relatively low tech, cheap weapon.
 
Videos like this one are anecdotal, but it's amazing to think about how much damage has been done by $100 drones dropping mortar shells. Sure, the HIMARS, Stingers, Javelins, and all of that precision stuff is neat, but in so many of those videos you see Russians huddling in fear, or oblivious to the danger presented by a relatively low tech, cheap weapon.
I agree that it is great but guess I would say HIMARS go beyond neat, as they have kept Russian artillery mostly out of range when before them russian artillery was its own meat grinder for Ukrainian forces…
 
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Do you consider it a violation of national sovereignty?


So, if on Jan 6 a “quorum” of Senators voted for Biden’s “removal” after he flees violent protestors taking over government buildings, that wouldn’t be a coup in your eyes even though it doesn’t follow the constitutional method of removing a president from office, because…? They held a vote?
I’ve asked this question before, but you never fill in the blank of why that would be a coup here, but that happening over there (with the addition of our acknowledged ‘meddling’) somehow isn’t one.
Your crazy has to end. In 2013, there was in place an agreement to associate with the EU, which Yunakovich rejected in 2013. The Ukraine parliament had approved the finalizing of the deal. The public outpouring in opposition (as was voted upon by parliament) led to his ouster. Estimated 800,000 protested. The equivalent amount of protesters in the US would be 6.6M. It is estimated January 6 had 120K protesters. Then the military, supported by Russia, murdered the protesters. Finally, the parliament voted 328-0 to remove Yanukovich and schedule a new election. If you equate 10 less votes as a coup, I don't know what to tell you. The will of the people was done.

The fact that you compare this to Jan. 6 is disturbed. Biden was not president on January 6. The will of the people in Ukraine was integration with the EU. A coup is a violent illegal seizure of government.
 
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