This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

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Thousands already have died, millions already displaced you dim bulb.

Putin’s fault. No one else.
White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
 

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Meanwhile, for something different, France 24 is reporting opinions of pro-Russian residents on the ground who refuse to leave and are suspicious of the Ukrainian government.

 

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Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.

Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.



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Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.


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The factory territory

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Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions

 

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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
Macron and Schultz were eviscerated on here for contemplating the same thing
 
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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
These are probably the same advisers who didn't want to do anything at all for fear of Russian nukes. Ukraine is growing stronger and Russia weaker. They have to give the war at least another 6 months.
 
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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?

Putin.

The Russo-Nazi scum can stay in Ukrainian territories of Luhansk, Donetsk, & Crimea all they like. They should be prepared for indefinite artillery, drone, and missile attacks until they get the hell out of Ukraine. Bayraktars going to be active for the foreseeable future. We’ll see how much military strength Nazi Russia has left in 6-12 months.
 

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"Latest video! Russian food/ammunition truck At least one vehicle was destroyed. By firing Ukrainian artillery on the Eastern Ukrainian Front. Lots of ammunition burns quite nicely for fuel."
 

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More details.

Truth
FWYCG2-VsAAbcnz
 

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Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.

Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.



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Places of impacts

Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.


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The factory territory

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Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions

According to this other version:)
 

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Macron and Schultz were eviscerated on here for contemplating the same thing
I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
 
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I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
Here’s the article with the text he posted.

 

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Then you have obviously not read the replies.

I am waiting for the Torbee in Ukraine fighting posts🤣
The military of the United States is deployed in most countries around the world, with between 160,000 to 180,000 of its active-duty personnel stationed outside the United States and its territories.[1] This list consists of deployments excepting active combat deployments, including troops in Syria[2] and Yemen.[3] The exact number of these troops is currently in flux due to troop withdrawals.[4][5]

Outside of active combat, US personnel are typically deployed as part of several peacekeeping missions, military attachés, or are part of embassy and consulate security. Nearly 40,000 are assigned to classified missions in locations that the US government refuses to disclose.[6] WIKI
 
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KH22 missile.... Huge warhead...2200 lbs

Off topic but....during the first Gulf War the squadron I was in didn't drop a single smart munition.

We were going 4x 2000 lb MK 84's for most of the war. Anyway, they'd show aircraft footage for some of the strikes in one of the tents where I was at. I remember one of our guys trying to take out a bridge. 4 ship....dropped 16 MK 84's on it.

Every one missed and didn't take out the bridge. They were all close but to take out a bridge you need a direct hit....

Fast forward to the 2nd Iraq war and we didn't drop a single "dumb" munition....either GPS guided or Laser guided. Kind of amazing how quickly that changed....
 
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South Front The forces are preparing to carry out a new counter-offensive towards Nikolaevka and Belaya Krinitsa Arrivals of heavy weapons and ammunition are reported towards Krivoy Rog-Osnovnaya, Kiev's forces are eagerly awaited...(Don't think they will take a chance and move many of the forces defending Kiev.)

And Russians are experts on being destabilized.
 
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