This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...
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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.
Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.
If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.
Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.
Places of impacts
Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.
The factory territory
Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions
Macron and Schultz were eviscerated on here for contemplating the same thing
These are probably the same advisers who didn't want to do anything at all for fear of Russian nukes. Ukraine is growing stronger and Russia weaker. They have to give the war at least another 6 months.
Putin.
The Russo-Nazi scum can stay in Ukrainian territories of Luhansk, Donetsk, & Crimea all they like. They should be prepared for indefinite artillery, drone, and missile attacks until they get the hell out of Ukraine. Bayraktars going to be active for the foreseeable future. We’ll see how much military strength Nazi Russia has left in 6-12 months.
According to this other version
Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.
Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.
Places of impacts
Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.
The factory territory
Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions
I’m no expert, but I would think that firefighters wouldn’t roll up on ammunition storage and try to put out the fire.
Your typical Orange Julius isn’t going to generate many secondary explosions.
Or maybe they are...
Then you have obviously not read the replies.
I am waiting for the Torbee in Ukraine fighting posts🤣
I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
G7 leaders work to 'starve' Russia of oil money as Zelensky says he wants the war over by the end of the year
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told G7 leaders during a virtual meeting Monday that he wants the war in Ukraine to end by the end of 2022, according to a source familiar with his remarks, as leaders worked to starve Russia of its oil revenues and mitigate the economic fallout of the...
www.cnn.com
Here’s the article with the text he posted.I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
G7 leaders work to 'starve' Russia of oil money as Zelensky says he wants the war over by the end of the year
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky told G7 leaders during a virtual meeting Monday that he wants the war in Ukraine to end by the end of 2022, according to a source familiar with his remarks, as leaders worked to starve Russia of its oil revenues and mitigate the economic fallout of the...
Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory
White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.
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Thanks for the linkHere’s the article with the text he posted.
Biden officials privately doubt that Ukraine can win back all of its territory
White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.
The military of the United States is deployed in most countries around the world, with between 160,000 to 180,000 of its active-duty personnel stationed outside the United States and its territories.[1] This list consists of deployments excepting active combat deployments, including troops in Syria[2] and Yemen.[3] The exact number of these troops is currently in flux due to troop withdrawals.[4][5]
Outside of active combat, US personnel are typically deployed as part of several peacekeeping missions, military attachés, or are part of embassy and consulate security. Nearly 40,000 are assigned to classified missions in locations that the US government refuses to disclose.[6] WIKI
Slowly, the numbers are MLRS are climbing.
"We can still do more": The head of the Munich Security Conference and former German UN ambassador, Christoph Heusgen, demands more weapons from Germany for Ukraine."
It looks like you were right.
Maybe the Swedes struck a deal to ship Erdogan their troublemakers.
KH22 missile.... Huge warhead...2200 lbs
Off topic but....during the first Gulf War the squadron I was in didn't drop a single smart munition.
We were going 4x 2000 lb MK 84's for most of the war. Anyway, they'd show aircraft footage for some of the strikes in one of the tents where I was at. I remember one of our guys trying to take out a bridge. 4 ship....dropped 16 MK 84's on it.
Every one missed and didn't take out the bridge. They were all close but to take out a bridge you need a direct hit....
Fast forward to the 2nd Iraq war and we didn't drop a single "dumb" munition....either GPS guided or Laser guided. Kind of amazing how quickly that changed....
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South Front The forces are preparing to carry out a new counter-offensive towards Nikolaevka and Belaya Krinitsa Arrivals of heavy weapons and ammunition are reported towards Krivoy Rog-Osnovnaya, Kiev's forces are eagerly awaited...(Don't think they will take a chance and move many of the forces defending Kiev.)
And Russians are experts on being destabilized.
And Russians are experts on being destabilized.
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A little additional info-
@genben on the recent Russian attacks on civilian targets. The worm will turn very soon.
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