This might be a little tougher than Putin thought...

seminole97

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Thousands already have died, millions already displaced you dim bulb.

Putin’s fault. No one else.
White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
 

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Meanwhile, for something different, France 24 is reporting opinions of pro-Russian residents on the ground who refuse to leave and are suspicious of the Ukrainian government.

 

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Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.

Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.



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Places of impacts

Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.


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The factory territory

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Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions

 

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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
Macron and Schultz were eviscerated on here for contemplating the same thing
 

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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?
These are probably the same advisers who didn't want to do anything at all for fear of Russian nukes. Ukraine is growing stronger and Russia weaker. They have to give the war at least another 6 months.
 
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White House officials are losing confidence that Ukraine will ever be able to take back all of the land it has lost to Russia over the past four months of war, US officials told CNN, even with the heavier and more sophisticated weaponry the US and its allies plan to send.

Advisers to President Joe Biden have begun debating internally how and whether Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should shift his definition of a Ukrainian "victory" -- adjusting for the possibility that his country has shrunk irreversibly.



If we see this war end up with tens of thousands dead on top of territorial losses beyond what was on the table with Minsk II, who will be faulted for that?

Putin.

The Russo-Nazi scum can stay in Ukrainian territories of Luhansk, Donetsk, & Crimea all they like. They should be prepared for indefinite artillery, drone, and missile attacks until they get the hell out of Ukraine. Bayraktars going to be active for the foreseeable future. We’ll see how much military strength Nazi Russia has left in 6-12 months.
 

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"Latest video! Russian food/ammunition truck At least one vehicle was destroyed. By firing Ukrainian artillery on the Eastern Ukrainian Front. Lots of ammunition burns quite nicely for fuel."
 

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More details.

Truth
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Impacts geolocated by this video. Both Kh-22 missiles should hit the factory, but one hit the mall directly, the second (1:23) hit the end building of the factory, so both missiles with 500m of CEP failed to seriously damage the factory, but hit civilian object, caused the death at least 20 citizens and 59 were injured (25 of them hostitalized). But resque works still ongoing. Total about 40 calls about missed people was registered by local police.

Amstor after Kh-22 dirct hit.



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Places of impacts

Amstor pointed with red Google mark and the second hit with red ellipse. About 500 m between hits. The lake is above.


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The factory territory

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Second missile hit nearby the factory buildings, but shockwave caused destructions

According to this other version:)
 

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Macron and Schultz were eviscerated on here for contemplating the same thing
I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
 

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I read the article and see nothing of what he posted.
Here’s the article with the text he posted.

 

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