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Um no. Crimea was part of Russia since the time of the Tsar's, 1783 to 1917 and then part of the USSR , thus it's mostly Russians that live there. The mostly arbitraury lines occurred in the mess that was the breakup of the USSR.So....as soon as Hispanics make up a majority anywhere in America, we're handing those territories and cities over to Mexico?
Where I live Hispanic/Latino and Asian are higher in population than Caucasian. I'd be SOL haha.So....as soon as Hispanics make up a majority anywhere in America, we're handing those territories and cities over to Mexico?
And Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and UtahUm no. Crimea was part of Russia since the time of the Tsar's
And Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Nevada, and Utah
used to be part of "Mexico".
No.Um that's different.
This is dumb. The Crimean "referendum" allowed Russian naval and army troops stationed in Sevastopol to vote, and gave two options: Join Russia or Independence from Ukraine.You might be right about the international law. I was referring to the actual vote might have been legitimate, meaning the vote count, because the people there identify as Russians, mostly. I'm not sure there is a precedent, exactly. Imagine, millions of people were told one day they are no longer part of the country they grew up in, and then years later were given a vote to rejoin.
Not just "dumb"This is dumb. The Crimean "referendum" allowed Russian naval and army troops stationed in Sevastopol to vote, and gave two options: Join Russia or Independence from Ukraine.
Also, 56% of Crimeans voted for independence from Russia in 1992, along with 86% of the Donbas.
Okay. The breakup of the USSR was a mess and there are a lot of nuances. It's still was and continues to be mostly Russians that live in the Donbas and Crimea.This is dumb. The Crimean "referendum" allowed Russian naval and army troops stationed in Sevastopol to vote, and gave two options: Join Russia or Independence from Ukraine.
Also, 56% of Crimeans voted for independence from Russia in 1992, along with 86% of the Donbas.
All Hispanics are Mexican?So....as soon as Hispanics make up a majority anywhere in America, we're handing those territories and cities over to Mexico?
Dude you are looking at this upside down. There was no campaign or movement amongst any of the people there to join Russia until Putin had his FSB organize it and send in Russian troops and nationals pretending to be from there to start one.Okay. The breakup of the USSR was a mess and there are a lot of nuances. It's still was and continues to be mostly Russians that live in the Donbas and Crimea.
How about let's propose to hold a vote of residents administered by the UN. If Putin agrees to the vote the war is over (Russia still has to pay to rebuild Ukraine and other penalties). If he doesn't agree it means you are likely right and we can continue down the path of escalation and MAD.
#KkiddingnotkiddingInsert manonmoon.gif, that point was made 3,000+ posts ago. Kidding of course.
For now. Ukraine is getting stronger with western heavy weapons. Ukraine will make more progress over the next 2-3 months.So the recent scenarios that look pessimistic for this area may not just be propaganda in this case. Damn!
You are right of course. As a WW2 buff I need to remember how bad things started off for the Allies.For now. Ukraine is getting stronger with western heavy weapons. Ukraine will make more progress over the next 2-3 months.
Hope they don’t pull a Stauffenberg. Arm both bombs fellas!!!Keep those assassins guessing?
Quite an enjoyable read.
Or, it might have been taken "under duress" and those voting against "fell out a window" shortly afterwards.You might be right about the international law. I was referring to the actual vote might have been legitimate
All Hispanics are Mexican?
Behind the scenes this type of thinking will just increase as the war drags on because of this….
I am not so pessimistic. Russia cannot sustain losses at this rate through all of 2022.
The Germans didn’t think the Russians could sustain the losses they were taking.I am not so pessimistic. Russia cannot sustain losses at this rate through all of 2022.
Different with millions of dudes with rifles versus fielding and maintaining weapons systems. They will run out of competitive weapons systems while Ukraine gets more and more, with our MIC ramping up.The Germans didn’t think the Russians could sustain the losses they were taking.
I tend to agree with you though…something has to break with them if that rate continues
AgreeDifferent with millions of dudes with rifles versus fielding and maintaining weapons systems. They will run out of competitive weapons systems while Ukraine gets more and more, with our MIC ramping up.
The Germans didn’t think the Russians could sustain the losses they were taking.
I tend to agree with you though…something has to break with them if that rate continues
The Germans didn’t think the Russians could sustain the losses they were taking.
I tend to agree with you though…something has to break with them if that rate continues
Probably one of the reasons the Russians lean so heavily on ethnic minorities to field their army. The urbanites get out of military service, and leave the bulk of the service to the rural, poorer men.From an article I linked many pages ago:
“It’s also worth recognising that the Russian men who fell fighting the Germans in the Forties were from families of six or seven siblings; those who fell fighting the Afghans in the Eighties were from families of two or three. Those falling now, fighting in Ukraine, are likely to be only-children or one of two siblings. The preparedness of a society to sustain military losses falls as family size falls; the only conflicts in today’s world that go on and on for years — from Libya to Syria to Yemen to Congo — are in places where the men who die have many brothers.”
I don’t want to make too bold of a prediction, but I can see Russian resistance crumbling. Their leadership is so out of touch with events on the ground, and these guys aren’t fighting to protect the Motherland.I am not so pessimistic. Russia cannot sustain losses at this rate through all of 2022.
Interesting to look at where the French are deploying these missiles. It’s on a coastal plain, with only a few buildings. NATO has been doing exercises for a few years there, and there are rows of berms around the place. It’s just north of Romania’s oil terminal, so it’s strategically important for several reasons. Agricultural exports go out a few miles to the south.