ADVERTISEMENT

Those Darned Democrats! Here they go again!

Titus Andronicus

HR Legend
Gold Member
Sep 26, 2002
12,400
3,657
113
77
Las Vegas, NV
They just passed a $280 billion spending bill and some it (about 20%) goes for the "Stated" purpose which is to help any of three companies (Intel, Micron Technology, and Texas Instruments) build new plant capacity domestically. Talk about "Targeted Spending."

The rest appears slated to disappear into the Deep State. A host of agencies will receive the other 80%, including NASA and the National Science Foundation. (What the hell is a Science Hub? A good chunk of the spending is going to fund a bunch of these ... (in the blue states, I bet). I even see where "Green Energy Initiatives" will be receiving their usual share of boondoggle spending.

... and of course we need a new program (What would a Democrat inspired spending bill be without new agencies, initiatives, and programs?) To this end we will get a "Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership"

What about rules? If you like rules, you will love this bill. Every Woke buzzword we know shows up in this legislation. Workplace rules abound, all based on the new paradigms of Racial and Gender Equality.

Poor Intel! They know not what they are in for.
.........................................................................................................................................................................................................
From "The Epoch Times:"

Washington has rushed to save computer chipmaking in the United States and has found $280 billion for the project. Even by the standards of modern Washington, that is a sizable sum. And as is typical of federal practice, the new legislation is about a lot more than manufacturing semiconductors.

Chipmaking will get a little less than a fifth of the total outlay. The rest will go to a wide range of activities favored by Congress. However the money is spent, the American taxpayer will foot the bill.

The legislation’s official title is Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors for America Act—the CHIPS for America Act, for short (wonderful how good Washington is with acronyms). The legislation would do its spending over five years. Of the total, some $52 billion aims at increasing the production of these important tech products domestically, largely from grants, loan guarantees, and a 25 percent tax credit for domestic chip manufacturing operations. The balance of the spending will go to a raft of projects, almost all at least vaguely connected to technology and science and aimed at increasing Washington’s control over research and technological directions.

Despite the giveaway, some within the semiconductor industry are not entirely happy with the legislation. Their problem is not with the amount but rather that the money is too narrowly focused. According to the government’s assessment of how things will shake out, as much as $20 billion—almost 40 percent of the industry’s take—will go to one company, Intel. The bulk of the rest will go to two other companies, Texas Instruments and Micron Technology.

It is not so much favoritism—though not unheard of in Washington—but rather that these companies do most of their manufacturing domestically, while others, such as Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Qualcomm, and Nvidia, tap foreign partners to fabricate their chips. Management at AMD has argued that the law should be written more broadly to give these companies credit for the research and design work they do domestically. AMD’s point has merit, but then the legislation was done to secure the supply of chips, and that would seem to demand domestic manufacturing, wherever the research and design are done. If others set up U.S. manufacturing operations, they would presumably also get the subsidies and tax breaks, and Intel would get relatively less of the total. Moreover, domestic supplies would be much less concentrated and hence more secure. Perhaps this logic captures the thinking of those who wrote the legislation.


Meanwhile, more than four-fifths of the allocated funds would go to activities other than chipmaking. Some $100 billion—almost twice the share allotted to the chipmakers—would go to the National Science Foundation to set up technology hubs in regions of the country with little technology activity. Funds would also go to the Department of Energy for green energy initiatives. It may be a bit of a stretch to link green energy to chip security, but there it is in the legislation. Monies would also go to establishing a Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership with what appears to be a broad mandate to provide support for all sorts of technology.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) would receive substantial funds for its exploration of Mars. Other monies would go for research on blockchain, low-emissions steel manufacturing, and the production of more efficient, quieter airplanes. The legislation emphasizes STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) education at all levels, from high school through post-graduate work. This way, perhaps, the effort can produce the staffing for the new technology hubs without the need for a great migration from existing hubs to new ones.

As with all Washington spending bills, this one includes a long list of conditions before any entity can receive funding. Much of this focuses on the by now familiar issues of inclusion and diversity. More than 30 percent of the bill’s language concerns diversity and sexual harassment issues, while 60 percent of the bill’s language dwells on requirements generally, including how products should be shipped.

The worth of all this is, of course, debatable. It is unclear whether the effort will do much to create more domestic chip manufacturing. After all, Intel was already planning new facilities. Now it might just substitute government for private funding. On the many initiatives that make up the bulk of the bill and the spending, the detail is so great that even the government scorers have refrained from drawing conclusions. What is sure is that Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook for an additional $280 billion.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
 
Last edited:
  • Haha
Reactions: Flie and billanole
They just passed a $280 billion spending bill and some it (about 20%) goes for the "Stated" purpose which is to help any of three companies (Intel, Micron Technology, and Texas Instruments) build new plant capacity domestically. Talk about "Targeted Spending."

The rest appears slated to disappear into the Deep State. A host of agencies will receive the other 80%, including NASA and the National Science Foundation. (What the hell is a Science Hub? A good chunk of the spending is going to fund a bunch of these ... (in the blue states, I bet). I even see where "Green Energy Initiatives" will be receiving their usual share of boondoggle spending.

... and of course we need a new program (What would a Democrat inspired spending bill be without new agencies, initiatives, and programs?) To this end we will get a "Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership"
.........................................................................................................................................................................................................
From "The Epoch Times:"

Washington has rushed to save computer chipmaking in the United States and has found $280 billion for the project. Even by the standards of modern Washington, that is a sizable sum. And as is typical of federal practice, the new legislation is about a lot more than manufacturing semiconductors.

Chipmaking will get a little less than a fifth of the total outlay. The rest will go to a wide range of activities favored by Congress. However the money is spent, the American taxpayer will foot the bill.

The legislation’s official title is Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors for America Act—the CHIPS for America Act, for short (wonderful how good Washington is with acronyms). The legislation would do its spending over five years. Of the total, some $52 billion aims at increasing the production of these important tech products domestically, largely from grants, loan guarantees, and a 25 percent tax credit for domestic chip manufacturing operations. The balance of the spending will go to a raft of projects, almost all at least vaguely connected to technology and science and aimed at increasing Washington’s control over research and technological directions.

Despite the giveaway, some within the semiconductor industry are not entirely happy with the legislation. Their problem is not with the amount but rather that the money is too narrowly focused. According to the government’s assessment of how things will shake out, as much as $20 billion—almost 40 percent of the industry’s take—will go to one company, Intel. The bulk of the rest will go to two other companies, Texas Instruments and Micron Technology.

It is not so much favoritism—though not unheard of in Washington—but rather that these companies do most of their manufacturing domestically, while others, such as Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Qualcomm, and Nvidia, tap foreign partners to fabricate their chips. Management at AMD has argued that the law should be written more broadly to give these companies credit for the research and design work they do domestically. AMD’s point has merit, but then the legislation was done to secure the supply of chips, and that would seem to demand domestic manufacturing, wherever the research and design are done. If others set up U.S. manufacturing operations, they would presumably also get the subsidies and tax breaks, and Intel would get relatively less of the total. Moreover, domestic supplies would be much less concentrated and hence more secure. Perhaps this logic captures the thinking of those who wrote the legislation.


Meanwhile, more than four-fifths of the allocated funds would go to activities other than chipmaking. Some $100 billion—almost twice the share allotted to the chipmakers—would go to the National Science Foundation to set up technology hubs in regions of the country with little technology activity. Funds would also go to the Department of Energy for green energy initiatives. It may be a bit of a stretch to link green energy to chip security, but there it is in the legislation. Monies would also go to establishing a Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership with what appears to be a broad mandate to provide support for all sorts of technology.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) would receive substantial funds for its exploration of Mars. Other monies would go for research on blockchain, low-emissions steel manufacturing, and the production of more efficient, quieter airplanes. The legislation emphasizes STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) education at all levels, from high school through post-graduate work. This way, perhaps, the effort can produce the staffing for the new technology hubs without the need for a great migration from existing hubs to new ones.

As with all Washington spending bills, this one includes a long list of conditions before any entity can receive funding. Much of this focuses on the by now familiar issues of inclusion and diversity. More than 30 percent of the bill’s language concerns diversity and sexual harassment issues, while 60 percent of the bill’s language dwells on requirements generally, including how products should be shipped.

The worth of all this is, of course, debatable. It is unclear whether the effort will do much to create more domestic chip manufacturing. After all, Intel was already planning new facilities. Now it might just substitute government for private funding. On the many initiatives that make up the bulk of the bill and the spending, the detail is so great that even the government scorers have refrained from drawing conclusions. What is sure is that Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook for an additional $280 billion.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
This bill just passed?

I had better catch up on the news.
 
This is the one they didn't have to take through reconciliation meaning enough Republicans thought it was a good bill to get through a filibuster which probably means you can bet most Republicans thought it was a good bill so they drew straws or otherwise decided who could afford to vote with Dems for it.
 
They just passed a $280 billion spending bill and some it (about 20%) goes for the "Stated" purpose which is to help any of three companies (Intel, Micron Technology, and Texas Instruments) build new plant capacity domestically. Talk about "Targeted Spending."

The rest appears slated to disappear into the Deep State. A host of agencies will receive the other 80%, including NASA and the National Science Foundation. (What the hell is a Science Hub? A good chunk of the spending is going to fund a bunch of these ... (in the blue states, I bet). I even see where "Green Energy Initiatives" will be receiving their usual share of boondoggle spending.

... and of course we need a new program (What would a Democrat inspired spending bill be without new agencies, initiatives, and programs?) To this end we will get a "Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership"
.........................................................................................................................................................................................................
From "The Epoch Times:"

Washington has rushed to save computer chipmaking in the United States and has found $280 billion for the project. Even by the standards of modern Washington, that is a sizable sum. And as is typical of federal practice, the new legislation is about a lot more than manufacturing semiconductors.

Chipmaking will get a little less than a fifth of the total outlay. The rest will go to a wide range of activities favored by Congress. However the money is spent, the American taxpayer will foot the bill.

The legislation’s official title is Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors for America Act—the CHIPS for America Act, for short (wonderful how good Washington is with acronyms). The legislation would do its spending over five years. Of the total, some $52 billion aims at increasing the production of these important tech products domestically, largely from grants, loan guarantees, and a 25 percent tax credit for domestic chip manufacturing operations. The balance of the spending will go to a raft of projects, almost all at least vaguely connected to technology and science and aimed at increasing Washington’s control over research and technological directions.

Despite the giveaway, some within the semiconductor industry are not entirely happy with the legislation. Their problem is not with the amount but rather that the money is too narrowly focused. According to the government’s assessment of how things will shake out, as much as $20 billion—almost 40 percent of the industry’s take—will go to one company, Intel. The bulk of the rest will go to two other companies, Texas Instruments and Micron Technology.

It is not so much favoritism—though not unheard of in Washington—but rather that these companies do most of their manufacturing domestically, while others, such as Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Qualcomm, and Nvidia, tap foreign partners to fabricate their chips. Management at AMD has argued that the law should be written more broadly to give these companies credit for the research and design work they do domestically. AMD’s point has merit, but then the legislation was done to secure the supply of chips, and that would seem to demand domestic manufacturing, wherever the research and design are done. If others set up U.S. manufacturing operations, they would presumably also get the subsidies and tax breaks, and Intel would get relatively less of the total. Moreover, domestic supplies would be much less concentrated and hence more secure. Perhaps this logic captures the thinking of those who wrote the legislation.


Meanwhile, more than four-fifths of the allocated funds would go to activities other than chipmaking. Some $100 billion—almost twice the share allotted to the chipmakers—would go to the National Science Foundation to set up technology hubs in regions of the country with little technology activity. Funds would also go to the Department of Energy for green energy initiatives. It may be a bit of a stretch to link green energy to chip security, but there it is in the legislation. Monies would also go to establishing a Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership with what appears to be a broad mandate to provide support for all sorts of technology.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) would receive substantial funds for its exploration of Mars. Other monies would go for research on blockchain, low-emissions steel manufacturing, and the production of more efficient, quieter airplanes. The legislation emphasizes STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) education at all levels, from high school through post-graduate work. This way, perhaps, the effort can produce the staffing for the new technology hubs without the need for a great migration from existing hubs to new ones.

As with all Washington spending bills, this one includes a long list of conditions before any entity can receive funding. Much of this focuses on the by now familiar issues of inclusion and diversity. More than 30 percent of the bill’s language concerns diversity and sexual harassment issues, while 60 percent of the bill’s language dwells on requirements generally, including how products should be shipped.

The worth of all this is, of course, debatable. It is unclear whether the effort will do much to create more domestic chip manufacturing. After all, Intel was already planning new facilities. Now it might just substitute government for private funding. On the many initiatives that make up the bulk of the bill and the spending, the detail is so great that even the government scorers have refrained from drawing conclusions. What is sure is that Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook for an additional $280 billion.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
You mean they passed the Chips AND Science Act? And it contains funding for chips AND science? Holeeee Phuck, OP...you've uncovered a scandal!!!
 
They just passed a $280 billion spending bill and some it (about 20%) goes for the "Stated" purpose which is to help any of three companies (Intel, Micron Technology, and Texas Instruments) build new plant capacity domestically. Talk about "Targeted Spending."

The rest appears slated to disappear into the Deep State. A host of agencies will receive the other 80%, including NASA and the National Science Foundation. (What the hell is a Science Hub? A good chunk of the spending is going to fund a bunch of these ... (in the blue states, I bet). I even see where "Green Energy Initiatives" will be receiving their usual share of boondoggle spending.

... and of course we need a new program (What would a Democrat inspired spending bill be without new agencies, initiatives, and programs?) To this end we will get a "Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership"
.........................................................................................................................................................................................................
From "The Epoch Times:"

Washington has rushed to save computer chipmaking in the United States and has found $280 billion for the project. Even by the standards of modern Washington, that is a sizable sum. And as is typical of federal practice, the new legislation is about a lot more than manufacturing semiconductors.

Chipmaking will get a little less than a fifth of the total outlay. The rest will go to a wide range of activities favored by Congress. However the money is spent, the American taxpayer will foot the bill.

The legislation’s official title is Creating Helpful Incentives to Produce Semiconductors for America Act—the CHIPS for America Act, for short (wonderful how good Washington is with acronyms). The legislation would do its spending over five years. Of the total, some $52 billion aims at increasing the production of these important tech products domestically, largely from grants, loan guarantees, and a 25 percent tax credit for domestic chip manufacturing operations. The balance of the spending will go to a raft of projects, almost all at least vaguely connected to technology and science and aimed at increasing Washington’s control over research and technological directions.

Despite the giveaway, some within the semiconductor industry are not entirely happy with the legislation. Their problem is not with the amount but rather that the money is too narrowly focused. According to the government’s assessment of how things will shake out, as much as $20 billion—almost 40 percent of the industry’s take—will go to one company, Intel. The bulk of the rest will go to two other companies, Texas Instruments and Micron Technology.

It is not so much favoritism—though not unheard of in Washington—but rather that these companies do most of their manufacturing domestically, while others, such as Advanced Micro Devices (AMD), Qualcomm, and Nvidia, tap foreign partners to fabricate their chips. Management at AMD has argued that the law should be written more broadly to give these companies credit for the research and design work they do domestically. AMD’s point has merit, but then the legislation was done to secure the supply of chips, and that would seem to demand domestic manufacturing, wherever the research and design are done. If others set up U.S. manufacturing operations, they would presumably also get the subsidies and tax breaks, and Intel would get relatively less of the total. Moreover, domestic supplies would be much less concentrated and hence more secure. Perhaps this logic captures the thinking of those who wrote the legislation.


Meanwhile, more than four-fifths of the allocated funds would go to activities other than chipmaking. Some $100 billion—almost twice the share allotted to the chipmakers—would go to the National Science Foundation to set up technology hubs in regions of the country with little technology activity. Funds would also go to the Department of Energy for green energy initiatives. It may be a bit of a stretch to link green energy to chip security, but there it is in the legislation. Monies would also go to establishing a Directorate for Technology, Innovation and Partnership with what appears to be a broad mandate to provide support for all sorts of technology.

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) would receive substantial funds for its exploration of Mars. Other monies would go for research on blockchain, low-emissions steel manufacturing, and the production of more efficient, quieter airplanes. The legislation emphasizes STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics) education at all levels, from high school through post-graduate work. This way, perhaps, the effort can produce the staffing for the new technology hubs without the need for a great migration from existing hubs to new ones.

As with all Washington spending bills, this one includes a long list of conditions before any entity can receive funding. Much of this focuses on the by now familiar issues of inclusion and diversity. More than 30 percent of the bill’s language concerns diversity and sexual harassment issues, while 60 percent of the bill’s language dwells on requirements generally, including how products should be shipped.

The worth of all this is, of course, debatable. It is unclear whether the effort will do much to create more domestic chip manufacturing. After all, Intel was already planning new facilities. Now it might just substitute government for private funding. On the many initiatives that make up the bulk of the bill and the spending, the detail is so great that even the government scorers have refrained from drawing conclusions. What is sure is that Congress has just put the American taxpayer on the hook for an additional $280 billion.

Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect the views of The Epoch Times.
You’re right. F#ck science. There are too many struggling billionaires that could make better use of that money.
 
Waiting for one of our resident cons to start a thread complaining about the high cost of new vehicles and blaming Biden and the libs for the computer chip shortage.
 
we need to bring jobs and manufacturing back home! Well, not those jobs that our entire way of life depends upon, only ones where Cletus can do the work.
 
I like how they say deep state and split out NASA from it. Who wants to break it to him that NASA is mostly full of libs like most technology focused industries?
 
Deep state idiots are woke to bullshit keywords like deep state and woke to dress up their journalistic dribble.

It sucks the suckers in.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT