Titanic tourist sub goes missing
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Or, and hear me out, since he's a kid you have him off everyone else and say he panicked. He's a kid so they will go easy on him. You and him get to live
Supposedly, the ballast system was supposed to work even w/o power (all that is, is valves holding in super-compressed air to displace the seawater and provide buoyancy - but if that part of the structure fails and leaks out your buoyant air, you are fooked.
So, it'd seem at least they had a ballast breach or something (if sitting on the bottom).
FWIW, carbon fiber is not something I'd be super "hip" to build a sub out of. Super strong stuff, but also fails spectacularly when it fails (e.g. carbon fiber bike frames). And the repeated stress/strain of submerging to 10,000+ ft is what can cause the microcracks to propagate and lead to a catastrophic failure. If you aren't routinely scanning for those microcracks weakening your CF structure, things can go badly, quickly...
You think they packed cyanide pills? Curious what method of self sacrifice would be viable? Self strangulation? This is quickly getting too morbid for me.
To prove a point, I can see.
To get money? I can’t imagine even any insurance payout would be worth it if you’re a billionaire.
Yeah, idk. You'd think it would be so cold that this would be an issue, but again idk. I did hear them mention 7 backup systems that should have still worked, so one way or another if this is them banging days later all failed in some respect. Not gonna lie... I'd never do into a little tube to the bottom of the ocean... especially the version they have shown. That said, I'm very curious to learn the outcome... what happened and why did all of these backups fail, etc. I just can't imagine that they will get out alive... that would be one hell of a story if they did though.
There is no "backup" for a ballast system; it either works, or it doesn't. Doubt they built in a redundant setup, but maybe they did.
If they were in the Titanic wreck… maybe they got Nutty Puttied , even if the ballasts were functioning properly it could have possibly made the situation worse…. Wedged in.
Does anyone else wonder how much money is being wasted to try and find these 5 people? Most of them elected to pay a bunch of money to do this. I can’t say I have much sympathy for them at all. They knew the dangers and instead possibly giving the money to someone that could us it for good. They spend it on something that they want to see because 99.9% of humans will never have the chance to see it.
Greed seems to have caught up with them.
Greed seems to have caught up with them.
The CEO isnt looking good in any of this, and it looks like he may pay a steep price indeed for it.
Millions gets ‘wasted’ all the time looking for backcountry skiers, hikers, boaters etc
It’s just part of being a developed country.
Very well possible. Nothing is off the table at this point.
I guess. But I feel like those are a little more justified. They are activities that common folk can partake in.
I feel like with evens similar to this situation. They should sign a flyer that if something similar to this would happen, that millions of dollars will not be spent trying to rescue you.
That’s the risk you will be taking to partake in this unnecessary adventure.
I suppose a belt would work.
I’m thinking about the 1996 Pauly Shore classic Biodome, and they didn’t have any oxygen issues in the dome which was full of plants. This is a perfect plan.
I didn't read the whole thread, so apologies if this has already been discussed...
Couldn't they have fit the sub with "air bags" that could be deployed for an emergency ascent in case of power failure? Obviously this wouldn't matter if the sub got crushed like a tin can. But if they're alive sitting on the bottom of the ocean, why wouldn't this have been implemented as a safety measure?
Couldn't they have fit the sub with "air bags" that could be deployed for an emergency ascent in case of power failure? Obviously this wouldn't matter if the sub got crushed like a tin can. But if they're alive sitting on the bottom of the ocean, why wouldn't this have been implemented as a safety measure?
At a fundamental level, the estate's executor (or a trust's trustee) would have a fiduciary duty to recover assets, which would include insurance proceeds. Also, everyone loves money, even rich people and their heirs/beneficiaries. Who wouldn't want more?
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To be fair I think at least 2 of the dudes on this trip have the cash to refund it all. Would be nice if they did so if on the off chance they were rescued.
I just heard that the sub can't even be opened from the inside, that you have to open it from the outside. So it is plausible (Although unlikely) that they could literally be bobbing on the surface of the water and running out of air.
I say it's unlikely because they probably would have been seen by now.
I say it's unlikely because they probably would have been seen by now.
I swear, the more I hear about this, it seems that a Darwin intervention was inevitable. I have yet to hear anything about this that seemed like a good idea.
could they have? Probably. From what we've learned about the company, they would have skipped on it had it cost them extra.
I would think the dudes families should still have to pay for it even if they aren’t rescued.
Families have to pay medical bills even if things don’t work out. Why should this be any different?
Because medical services are provided by private entities and rescue services are provided by the government?
Kind of a courtesy at sea to help out. The first ship on the scene was an energy exploration ship. They could sail on by for their shareholders benefit, but they expect the same courtesy if for any reason they need it.
It has been reported that there was a pneumatic system to release the ballast, and the second backup is to rock the sun from side to side and dislodge the ballast from the mounts it hangs on.
That seems pretty sketchy. One side could dislodge, and the other side stay on.
Yikes. This is going to be a shit show.
www.yahoo.com
OceanGate Was Warned of Potential for ‘Catastrophic’ Problems With Titanic Mission
Years before OceanGate’s submersible craft went missing in the Atlantic Ocean with five people onboard, the company faced several warnings as it prepared for its hallmark mission of taking wealthy passengers to tour the Titanic’s wreckage. It was January 2018, and the company’s engineering team...
Fair. I don't know where they draw the line and I am sure it varies from local government to local government. It would seem to me that the more "national" or large scale the response is in terms of resources (like fire fighting, responses to hurricanes, etc) the more it should be paid for by tax dollars. But I am just talking out of my ass, maybe they get served with a huge bill.
Is this guy related to Andrew Wold?Yikes. This is going to be a shit show.
OceanGate Was Warned of Potential for ‘Catastrophic’ Problems With Titanic Mission
Years before OceanGate’s submersible craft went missing in the Atlantic Ocean with five people onboard, the company faced several warnings as it prepared for its hallmark mission of taking wealthy passengers to tour the Titanic’s wreckage. It was January 2018, and the company’s engineering team...
I mean compare the interiors and you have to wonder.
I mean this is the inside of the DSV Alvin which the Navy developed for this sort of purpose.
That looks like a professionally engineered craft. By comparison this sub on the inside looks like something someone built in their garage.
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