Top Democrats lie on National TV, and they lied quite a bit.

[HawktimusPrime]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...tic-debate/ar-AAfqLFX?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=DELLDHP

We found several falsehoods and misleading claims in the Democratic candidates’ first debate:

• Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton revised her earlier statement on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, claiming that she said she “hoped” it would be a “gold standard.” At the time, she said it was a gold standard.
• Sen. Bernie Sanders claimed that his plan to lift the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes would extend the program’s finances and expand benefits. He neglected to mention that the new taxes would not be used to calculate benefits for those paying them, a break from historical practice.
• Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley claimed that “70 percent of us are earning the same, or less than we were 12 years ago.” Not true. Average weekly earnings for rank-and-file workers are up 5.8 percent.
• Former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee said that his state “had the biggest drop of the unemployment rate over my four budgets of all but one state.” Actually, four states had larger percentage point drops, and 10 states had larger percentage declines over his tenure.
• Sanders claimed that African American youth unemployment was 51 percent, but that figure pertains to underemployment, which includes those working part-time and looking for full-time work.
• Clinton claimed that “we lose 90 people a day from gun violence.” That’s true, but only a third of those deaths are from homicides.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...tic-debate/ar-AAfqLFX?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=DELLDHP

We found several falsehoods and misleading claims in the Democratic candidates’ first debate:

• Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton revised her earlier statement on the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal, claiming that she said she “hoped” it would be a “gold standard.” At the time, she said it was a gold standard.
• Sen. Bernie Sanders claimed that his plan to lift the cap on income subject to Social Security taxes would extend the program’s finances and expand benefits. He neglected to mention that the new taxes would not be used to calculate benefits for those paying them, a break from historical practice.
• Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley claimed that “70 percent of us are earning the same, or less than we were 12 years ago.” Not true. Average weekly earnings for rank-and-file workers are up 5.8 percent.
• Former Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee said that his state “had the biggest drop of the unemployment rate over my four budgets of all but one state.” Actually, four states had larger percentage point drops, and 10 states had larger percentage declines over his tenure.
• Sanders claimed that African American youth unemployment was 51 percent, but that figure pertains to underemployment, which includes those working part-time and looking for full-time work.
• Clinton claimed that “we lose 90 people a day from gun violence.” That’s true, but only a third of those deaths are from homicides.

1. Quote?

2. Not a lie

3. I'm guessing they forgot to correct for inflation. Up 5.8%?

4. They might actually have one here.

5. So he looks at unemployment the same way the GOP does when they rail on Obama and they get upset? Odd.

6. So it was true?

If that's the best your source can do, I'd say there was plenty of truth spoken at the debate. You might want to find another source.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

1. Quote?

2. Not a lie

3. I'm guessing they forgot to correct for inflation. Up 5.8%?

4. They might actually have one here.

5. So he looks at unemployment the same way the GOP does when they rail on Obama and they get upset? Odd.

6. So it was true?

If that's the best your source can do, I'd say there was plenty of truth spoken at the debate. You might want to find another source.

Can you email MSN for me and let them know then? I'm kind of busy today.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Why would I do your work for you?

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

OP has a lot of balls after a Republican debate that those in the fact checking business noted was unprecedented in its scope of distortions, misleads, and outright falsehoods. At this moment, one party spins facts and truth, the other has no conscience when lying about facts and truth...

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/11-distortions-misrepresentations-and-outright-lies-gop-debate

 

[strummingram]

Politicians and/or the media lying, embellishing or pandering for some kind of public favor... I'm so not shocked.

 

[thewop]

Fact checkers are partisan like every other media pundit, you can bet that everything a candidate says that sounds grim or wonderful has been embellished to some degree.

It's like listening to a late night comedian joke about current events, rooted in truth but then added to or subtracted from for appeal.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Why would I do your work for you?

So you can actually earn the tax money that I provide you with silly? Don't you want job satisfaction?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

OP has a lot of balls after a Republican debate that those in the fact checking business noted was unprecedented in its scope of distortions, misleads, and outright falsehoods. At this moment, one party spins facts and truth, the other has no conscience when lying about facts and truth...

http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/11-distortions-misrepresentations-and-outright-lies-gop-debate

OP doesn't give a flying ##$ about the Republican party. Try again.

 

[Jan Itor]

Why would I do your work for you?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/democratic-debate-fact-check/

 

[markfromj]

Former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley claimed that “70 percent of us are earning the same, or less than we were 12 years ago.” Not true. Average weekly earnings for rank-and-file workers are up 5.8 percent.

An average being up does not disprove O'Malley' statement. One worker now making a bazillion dollars could raise the average, with every other worker "...earning the same or less".

 

[Lone Clone]

Most fact-checkers don't check facts. They simply present the information from their perspective instead of the perspective of the person who made the statement.

 

[moral_victory]

Most fact-checkers don't check facts. They simply present the information from their perspective instead of the perspective of the person who made the statement.

Going to need a fact check on this.

 

[Vroom_C14]

"How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

 

[Joes Place]

"How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

Union or non-union?

 

[Vroom_C14]

Union or non-union?

Give examples of both please.

 

[Lone Clone]

"How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?

The answer is blowin' in the wind.

 

[22*43*51]

It takes a lot of lies to patronize an entire nation.