Toyota was found to have falsified data and skirted impact-safety tests

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Wow!



NEWS: Toyota was found to have falsified data and skirted impact-safety tests while applying to certify seven past and current vehicles, a government investigation has found.

Toyota submitted faulty data during pedestrian-safety tests for three current models, and used modified test vehicles during collision-safety tests for four past models, the Japanese transport ministry said Monday. The company was among five companies, including Honda Motor Co. and Mazda Motor Corp., found to have problems with their safety certifications.

Source: bloomberg.com/news/articles/…

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

After Pearl Harbor why would we trust those little Nippers anyway?

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I've owned two Avalons. I'm still here and kicking ass.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

Hmmmm…..yeah…I’ll still buy Toyota/Lexus.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Hmmmm…..yeah…I’ll still buy Toyota/Lexus.

I have never had a problem.

 

[HawkinK.C.1]

Sure as hell ain't trading either my Toyota or my Lexus for a Tesla.

 

[Kinnick.At.Night]

I have never had a problem.

All things considered, Toyota/Lexus builds the best vehicles in the world. Honda/Acura are pretty damn good too.

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Sure as hell ain't trading either my Toyota or my Lexus for a Tesla.

Well that’s good for you.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Still need an opinion on buying a used BMW 328 series (2011) with 137k miles.

 

[The Tradition]

Still need an opinion on buying a used BMW 328 series (2011) with 137k miles.

No.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

No.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but why? My BIL said he would buy it in a heartbeat.

 

[The Tradition]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but why? My BIL said he would buy it in a heartbeat.

If your BIL is a BMW service technician, that might work....

 

[Jimmy McGill]

If your BIL is a BMW service technician, that might work....

He is not. And that is my biggest concern. But I can probably snatch it for 5K

 

[Chishawk1425]

This is pathetic but not any worse than Teslas shenanigans.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

This is pathetic but not any worse than Teslas shenanigans.

?

 

[Tenacious E]

Still need an opinion on buying a used BMW 328 series (2011) with 137k miles.

No no no. We have a 2013 my parents gave us a couple of years ago and I’ve put thousands upon thousands into it since. About the same miles and they cared for it meticulously. You’d be staring down the same barrel. I do love my x3, although it is much newer.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

No no no. We have a 2013 my parents gave us a couple of years ago and I’ve put thousands upon thousands into it since. About the same miles and they cared for it meticulously. You’d be staring down the same barrel. I do love my x3, although it is much newer.

Boom. There is my answer.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

Boom. There is my answer.

It has to be midnight your time in Italy

 

[Chishawk1425]

?

Tesla has all kinds of issues, people dying in self drive cars etc. Just a coincidence OP posted Toyota issues?

 

[Colonoscopy]

My brother in law was a Toyota tech and says they've gone down hill recently, more quality control issues.

Said the older 2000s stuff is still great though

 

[Chishawk1425]

My brother in law was a Toyota tech and says they've gone down hill recently, more quality control issues.

Said the older 2000s stuff is still great though

I can definitely see that.

 

[Colonoscopy]

I can definitely see that.

Wouldn't give up on them yet. Have a history of good products, just would wait some time on new models like the Tundra and etc...

 

[Chishawk1425]

Wouldn't give up on them yet. Have a history of good products, just would wait some time on new models like the Tundra and etc...

I have never had an issue with a Toyota product.

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

Still need an opinion on buying a used BMW 328 series (2011) with 137k miles.

So expensive for repairs. BIL bought a 2010 because he always wanted a BMW. Nothing but a headache. Sold it within 6 months and now loves his Acura.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

I have never had an issue with a Toyota product.

Loved the one I sold, but used car prices were stupid high, so I took 6500 in cash from the first person to offer. Spent some of that money out of Colorado right afterwords

 

[Phenomenally Frantastic]

Tesla has all kinds of issues, people dying in self drive cars etc. Just a coincidence OP posted Toyota issues?

This is OT but Euro NCAP disagrees.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-y-earns-5-star-safety-rating-euro-ncap

Model Y Earns 5-Star Safety Rating From Euro NCAP​

Rated #1

 

[Jimmy McGill]

So expensive for repairs. BIL bought a 2010 because he always wanted a BMW. Nothing but a headache. Sold it within 6 months and now loves his Acura.

Yeah, that is the big problem with buying zee German products.

BMW was not my first choice. I'd like a lexus or volkswagon

 

[Chishawk1425]

This is OT but Euro NCAP disagrees.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/model-y-earns-5-star-safety-rating-euro-ncap

Model Y Earns 5-Star Safety Rating From Euro NCAP​

Rated #1

Toyota contributes to Republicans who support January 6th so I'm no longer a fan anyways but ok.

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

This news will not deter me from buying Toyota. We have a 2015 Lexus RX 350 and absolutely love it. It’s my no pic wife’s car and we’ve had zero problems and it’s got about 90k miles.

 

[Jimmy McGill]

This news will not deter me from buying Toyota. We have a 2015 Lexus RX 350 and absolutely love it. It’s my no pic wife’s car and we’ve had zero problems and it’s got about 90k miles.

I'll take it off your hands

 

[HawkeyeShawn]

I'll take it off your hands

The wife will not part ways with it. We are planning another 100k. We will keep it another 5+ years.

 

[The Tradition]

My brother in law was a Toyota tech and says they've gone down hill recently, more quality control issues.

Said the older 2000s stuff is still great though

Honda is the same way. The newest model year offerings have lots of gremlins.

You know who is quietly taking the quality crown?

Mazda.

Mazda Named 2024 Best SUV Brand by U.S. News & World Report

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news.mazdausa.com

 

[mnole03]

OP is deeply concerned with self-reported safety data for compact JDM cars.

 

[srams21]

He is not. And that is my biggest concern. But I can probably snatch it for 5K

That will also be the price of your first trip to the mechanic with that BMW.

 

[themelrosemauler]

2025 4Runner…

 

[stillh8unlv]

Meh.....Pedestrian Safety tests - those are the stupidest, over reaching 'safety' regulations anyway.

One of my cars has two small airbags under the hood of the car that are supposed to deploy and raise the hood a few inches in the event of me running down someone in a crosswalk so they literally hit the hood sooner and absorb the impact better.

All because my car design is "too low" in the front per European pedestrian regulations.

 

[LBoogie28]

2025 4Runner…

That TRD Pro is probably going to set you back $70k+

 

[kkhawk]

Just bought a 24 Tundra

 

[Colonoscopy]

This news will not deter me from buying Toyota. We have a 2015 Lexus RX 350 and absolutely love it. It’s my no pic wife’s car and we’ve had zero problems and it’s got about 90k miles.

Really like the idea of it, but maybe in a few years. Also the price of new trucks is ****ing stupid.