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Trudeau: "Not a snowball's chance in hell that Canada will ever be the 51st State", Vows unequivocal response to any stacked tariff threats by US

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OTTAWA — The federal government will respond in an "equally unequivocal" way to any stacked U.S. tariffs on Canadian goods in the face of compounding threats from President Donald Trump, says Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Speaking in Brussels on Wednesday after meetings with European and NATO leaders, Trudeau acknowledged that Trump's multiple threats would represent a cumulative blow to Canada and the cross-border relationship.

But the prime minister vowed to reciprocate, asserted Canada's sovereignty against Trump's ongoing 51st state musings, and pushed back on Trump's rhetoric painting Canada as a military spending free rider.

Trudeau said the U.S. and Canada should be working together to build prosperity and confront authoritarian regimes, but "if we have to take some time to put that on pause while we stand up for Canadian jobs, while we stand up unequivocally for Canadian sovereignty, we'll do that.

"It's not our choice. We don't want to be doing that, but we will, regardless of the level of tariffs that eventually the administration might move forward on, we will be equally unequivocal in our response."
Trump has warned that any country that tries to retaliate against his global import tariffs would face higher tariffs and escalating costs.

Asked how Ottawa would deal with a 50 per cent surcharge on Canadian steel and aluminum, and why Trump is escalating his rhetoric against Canada, Trudeau said, "Canada will respond as appropriate in a calibrated but extremely strong way, regardless of what the U.S. moves forward with. We don't want to be in a trade dispute."

Trump's 51st state talk is a "non-starter," Trudeau said, even as he insisted he did not ever think of it as a joke.
"It's never going to happen, but we have to take seriously what the president is saying and pull that into our thinking as we continue to stand up for Canada," Trudeau said.

Finance Minister Dominic LeBlanc initially told Canadians those comments were a "joke" after news broke that Trump had raised it with Trudeau and his team as they dined together in November at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.

Trudeau repeatedly dismissed the Trump comments in public, saying there is not a "snowball's chance in hell" Canada would be annexed by the U.S. — a comment he repeated in Brussels.
But last week, as the Star first reported, Trudeau told a closed-door meeting of Canadian business leaders that Trump's desire to make Canada a 51st state was "a real thing" driven in part by wanting the U.S. to benefit from Canada's critical mineral reserves.

Trudeau said his government and provincial premiers will continue to lobby the Trump administration to show that tariffs "will all end up hurting Americans and Canadians."
 
Canadian Conservatives had a 27 point lead before Trump threatened tariffs. That united Canada and now it’s a single digit lead.
 
If they elect a Trump antagonist it's only going to make it worse for them.
Hey yo. So when the cards are dealt, is this going only be an only economic issue?

Just asking questions. Is my now 16 year old going to be drafted for bullshit expansionism in two years?
 
Hey yo. So when the cards are dealt, is this going only be an only economic issue?

Just asking questions. Is my now 16 year old going to be drafted for bullshit expansionism in two years?

If Alberta secedes from Canada and asks to join the U.S., would you oppose letting them in?
 
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If Alberta secedes from Canada and asks to join the U.S., would you oppose letting them in?
Crazy you are entertaining that fantasy. I notice you didn’t answer my question. I don’t think any Canadian province will ask to join our union. If they do. That is their choice.

I’m asking you, given that no Canadian province will choose to join our union, and our president decides other measures are to be taken, will my boy be unilaterally chosen to help bring those provinces to us?
 
Crazy you are entertaining that fantasy. I notice you didn’t answer my question fantasy.

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I don’t think any Canadian province will ask to join our union. If they do. That is their choice.

We actually have a say in it. They can't just join the Union without the Union approving it.
Would you oppose letting them in?

I’m asking you, given that no Canadian province will choose to join our union, and our president decides other measures are to be taken, will my boy be unilaterally chosen to help bring those provinces to us?

I'm willing to bet you that your boy won't be drafted to invade Canada.
What time frame would you like to put on it?
 
You can call it fantasy all you want. To me. Fantasy. Fiction. Involves a lot of stories I never thought would come close to reality.

I honestly. Desperately. Hope you’re right. That I shouldn’t have to worry about what I am currently worrying about.

You are making jokes. Making light of a future I am absolutely seeing come to fruition under this regime. 5 years from now I’d love to tell myself I was just going crazy.

ATM. I have a hard time with that.
 
You can call it fantasy all you want. To me. Fantasy. Fiction. Involves a lot of stories I never thought would come close to reality.

I honestly. Desperately. Hope you’re right. That I shouldn’t have to worry about what I am currently worrying about.

You are making jokes. Making light of a future I am absolutely seeing come to fruition under this regime. 5 years from now I’d love to tell myself I was just going crazy.

ATM. I have a hard time with that.

I've been watching people 'joke' about entering WW3 for almost three years now.
America just voted not to, so we'll see how that goes.

If you're 'absolutely seeing it come to fruition', are you willing to make the bet? Or just making noise?

Would you oppose Alberta joining the U.S. as the 51st state?
 
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I've been watching people 'joke' about entering WW3 for almost three years now.
America just voted not to, so we'll see how that goes.

If you're 'absolutely seeing it come to fruition', are you willing to make the bet? Or just making noise?

Would you oppose Alberta joining the U.S. as the 51st state?
So you’re not going to make any honest arguments and just base it on gambling.

Because obviously a human can’t make any arguments that they are not willing to bet their soul on.

I answered that question. You seem to want me to to bet my soul on it.

Is everything gambling to you?
 
So you’re not going to make any honest arguments and just base it on gambling.

Because obviously a human can’t make any arguments that they are not willing to bet their soul on.

Oh, you can make the argument for you fantasy, but you won't put even an avatar on the line for it.
'Skin in the game' is a good measure of whether someone believes what they're saying.
I understand you have fear, but you don't have conviction.

I answered that question. You seem to want me to to bet my soul on it.

No, you said, "If they do. That is their choice."
I didn't want to put words in your mouth, so I asked if you'd oppose it.
Would you call you reps in Washington and say, 'vote no to admitting Alberta as a state!'?

Is everything gambling to you?

That's just it, I don't see it as gambling when I don't see any risk.
I don't think you believe what you've fantasized will come true.
 
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I just wonder if Trump's sudden fascination with Canada has anything to do with the rumored relationship between Melanie and Justin Trudeau?

That photo of Melanie smiling provocatively at Justin had to have pissed Turd off!
 
I just wonder if Trump's sudden fascination with Canada has anything to do with the rumored relationship between Melanie and Justin Trudeau?

That photo of Melanie smiling provocatively at Justin had to have pissed Turd off!
The new version of the Great Game will be over the resources of the Arctic.

Trade routes from China, South Korea, and Japan will be shorter to Europe and America through the northern route.

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Crazy you are entertaining that fantasy. I notice you didn’t answer my question. I don’t think any Canadian province will ask to join our union. If they do. That is their choice.

I’m asking you, given that no Canadian province will choose to join our union, and our president decides other measures are to be taken, will my boy be unilaterally chosen to help bring those provinces to us?
BC would I bet. They hate Quebec.
 
Oh, you can make the argument for you fantasy, but you won't put even an avatar on the line for it.
'Skin in the game' is a good measure of whether someone believes what they're saying.
I understand you have fear, but you don't have conviction.



No, you said, "If they do. That is their choice."
I didn't want to put words in your mouth, so I asked if you'd oppose it.
Would you call you reps in Washington and say, 'vote no to admitting Alberta as a state!'?



That's just it, I don't see it as gambling when I don't see any risk.
I don't think you believe what you've fantasized will come true.
That’s your ****ing problem. I hope it doesn’t come true. I absolutely think it will. Your risk association doesn’t compute with me.

I hope I’m wrong. I’m also not willing to make any bets on this thinking. My world is not based on betting. My reality is not based on risk assessment.

I know I am naive in this assessment, but I ****ing hate it.
 
That’s your ****ing problem. I hope it doesn’t come true. I absolutely think it will. Your risk association doesn’t compute with me.
I hope I’m wrong. I’m also not willing to make any bets on this thinking. My world is not based on betting. My reality is not based on risk assessment.
I know I am naive in this assessment, but I ****ing hate it.

If you believed that, would you get him out of the country, or let him be made an imperialist pawn and hope it works out?
 
If you believed that, would you get him out of the country, or let him be made an imperialist pawn and hope it works out?
Phuck dude. Do you even understand where I am? Are you able to put yourself in another persons shoes? I’m asking. Because your questions don’t indicate that you are.

It’s a matter of self reflection. Self personification. A perspective I’ve hoped most others have reached.
 
Yeah. I suck at gambling. Betting is a zero sum game.
Well I wasn't actually suggesting a bet but agreed.

I do bet for fun though. Sports mostly. I bet I've lost maybe 30 dollars this year :) For me I don't bet to make money. I bet to make the games more interesting. If I win, great. If I lose it is money I could have wasted on hookers and blow so this is safer.
 
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