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Trump fined $10,000 for what New York judge says is second violation of partial gag order in civil fraud trial

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A New York judge on Wednesday fined Donald Trump $10,000 for violating a gag order — and warned the former president that the penalties will only get worse if he keeps breaking the rules set for a civil trial in which he is accused of falsely inflating his property values.


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The five-figure penalty came after Judge Arthur Engoron unexpectedly called Trump to the witness stand to explain, under oath, a comment he made earlier in the day. Trump’s surprise testimony only lasted a few minutes, but in that time he failed to convince the judge of either his honesty or good intentions.
The dispute began outside of court, during a break in the testimony, when Trump said he believed that both Engoron and the person next to him were extremely partisan. Trump complained that Engoron, a Democrat, is “a very partisan judge, with a person who’s very partisan sitting along side of him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”
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Learning of those comments, Engoron who had previously issued a gag order that barred the former president from making any public statements about court personnel summoned Trump to explain exactly what he meant.



Trump said he was referring not to the judge’s law clerk, who sits next to him in court, but to Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen, who had been on the witness stand earlier Wednesday.
Engoron said he didn’t believe Trump’s explanation.
“As the trier of fact I find that the witness is not credible," Engoron said, adding that he believed Trump was "referring to my ... principal law clerk, who is sitting much closer to me.” The judge noted there’s a barrier between the witness stand and the bench, and said that was part of the reason he believed Trump meant the clerk and not Cohen.

The $10,000 fine comes on top of a $5,000 fine Engoron issued against Trump last week for what he found was a previous violation of his gag order.

The face-off between the judge and the former president was not the first time the issue of the law clerk came up in Wednesday’s court session. On Wednesday morning, Trump lawyer Alina Habba had complained that the clerk was rolling her eyes throughout Tuesday’s cross-examination, calling it “distracting.”


After Engoron issued the fine, Trump’s lawyers asked him to reconsider. The judge said he would not reverse course.
“Don’t do it next time, or it’ll be worse,” the judge said.
The confrontation between the judge and the former president came at a critical moment in the trial, when Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen was testifying against him. The lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James accuses Trump of falsely inflating the worth of his real estate empire — an accusation that Cohen has made repeatedly since he and Trump had a bitter falling out.

The showdown between Cohen and Trump in court has been years in the making, and Cohen could prove to be an important witness in the judge’s ultimate decision over how much to penalize Trump or his business.
After the dust-up over the gag order, Trump’s lawyers made a longshot request for the judge to cut the trial short and issue a directed verdict, but the judge rejected that motion.
With that, Trump got up and walked out of the courtroom, muttering, “I’m leaving.”

 
3rd time would go to 50k or 100k. 4th will most likely see a higher fine and/or prison time. Knowing Donald, who believe this would never happen to someone like him, he'll reach it.
Take the predictability out of it, and you'll get results.

Don't "up" the penalty "just a few thou" on the next round.
Go full-measure. Get the message received, loud and clear.

Which will have an impact on the other trials he is engaging in the same behavior.
 
If he violates a 3rd time, give him 7 days in jail to think it over. (or until the trial is over, whichever is sooner)

Might actually head-off more serious violations that way.
His remarks about the Clerk stayed on a second Trump website for 17 days after he was ordered to take them down. Let him set 1 day for every day they were left up.
 
Just like clockwork.
Well...is she?

Trumps lawyers put it on record she is constantly talking and rolling her eyes during the proceedings. Both her and the judge are talking during testimony. This isn't normal behavior at all for a clerk.

In a case where it is reasonable to argue political motivation we have a clerk that is apparently dating a top congrssional leader and is disrupting the proceedings.

That does not look good at all
 
His remarks about the Clerk stayed on a second Trump website for 17 days after he was ordered to take them down. Let him set 1 day for every day they were left up.

And the NEXT time, it'll be 2 days for every 1 day they are up.
Then 5
Then 10
Then 100.
 
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Well...is she?

Trumps lawyers put it on record she is constantly talking and rolling her eyes during the proceedings. Both her and the judge are talking during testimony. This isn't normal behavior at all for a clerk.

In a case where it is reasonable to argue political motivation we have a clerk that is apparently dating a top congrssional leader and is disrupting the proceedings.

That does not look good at all
Perhaps...and I know this is gonna sound crazy....but perhaps Trump should just do what he's ****ing told and not act like an undisciplined child for once in his life.
 
Well...is she?

Trumps lawyers put it on record she is constantly talking and rolling her eyes during the proceedings. Both her and the judge are talking during testimony. This isn't normal behavior at all for a clerk.

In a case where it is reasonable to argue political motivation we have a clerk that is apparently dating a top congrssional leader and is disrupting the proceedings.

That does not look good at all
Not happening.
 
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Well...is she?

Trumps lawyers put it on record she is constantly talking and rolling her eyes during the proceedings. Both her and the judge are talking during testimony. This isn't normal behavior at all for a clerk.

In a case where it is reasonable to argue political motivation we have a clerk that is apparently dating a top congrssional leader and is disrupting the proceedings.

That does not look good at all
“Apparently”.
It’s been debunked repeatedly.
At which points of the trial do you think the clerk rolled her eyes in an unprofessional way? At which points did she and the judge talk in an unprofessional manner?
 
“Apparently”.
It’s been debunked repeatedly.
At which points of the trial do you think the clerk rolled her eyes in an unprofessional way? At which points did she and the judge talk in an unprofessional manner?
Dude wtf is wrong with your brain. Her and the judges behavior was read into the record today by trumps attorneys as a part of an.objection. just how bad is your derangement?

As for her being schumers girlfriend there is a photo of the two together. Nothing has been debunked.
 
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Dude wtf is wrong with your brain. Her and the judges behavior was read into the record today by trumps attorneys as a part of an.objection. just how bad is your derangement?

As for her being schumers girlfriend there is a photo of the two together. Nothing has been debunked.
Oh, the pissy bitch Donald complained? He can read his lunch order into the record, that doesn’t make it true.
It’s been repeatedly debunked that there is a relationship between the clerk and Schumer.
This might be lost on you, but if there was what would it matter? She’s a clerk. She isn’t the judge, the prosecutor, or the anyone of consequence. Many people are saying Trump is banging his lawyer Alina Habba. Lots of people are saying this. Isn’t that a conflict of interest?
 
I think all the flipping in Georgia has him nervous. Losing his dad’s money is bad, and being exposed as a not so rich guy is bad. But, he’s starting to hear the clink of the cell door. He’s losing on every legal front. Blustering isn’t working anymore. The DoJ isn’t protecting him anymore.
 
I think all the flipping in Georgia has him nervous. Losing his dad’s money is bad, and being exposed as a not so rich guy is bad. But, he’s starting to hear the clink of the cell door. He’s losing on every legal front. Blustering isn’t working anymore. The DoJ isn’t protecting him anymore.
Perhaps all this “witch hunt” talk has indeed Cast a Spell Upon him! o_O
 
Dude wtf is wrong with your brain. Her and the judges behavior was read into the record today by trumps attorneys as a part of an.objection. just how bad is your derangement?

As for her being schumers girlfriend there is a photo of the two together. Nothing has been debunked.
Witch hunt! You ever consider they throw this crap out there because they have no real defense? Humor us and try to see it that way for just a minute?
 
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A New York judge on Wednesday fined Donald Trump $10,000 for violating a gag order — and warned the former president that the penalties will only get worse if he keeps breaking the rules set for a civil trial in which he is accused of falsely inflating his property values.


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The five-figure penalty came after Judge Arthur Engoron unexpectedly called Trump to the witness stand to explain, under oath, a comment he made earlier in the day. Trump’s surprise testimony only lasted a few minutes, but in that time he failed to convince the judge of either his honesty or good intentions.
The dispute began outside of court, during a break in the testimony, when Trump said he believed that both Engoron and the person next to him were extremely partisan. Trump complained that Engoron, a Democrat, is “a very partisan judge, with a person who’s very partisan sitting along side of him, perhaps even much more partisan than he is.”
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Learning of those comments, Engoron who had previously issued a gag order that barred the former president from making any public statements about court personnel summoned Trump to explain exactly what he meant.



Trump said he was referring not to the judge’s law clerk, who sits next to him in court, but to Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen, who had been on the witness stand earlier Wednesday.
Engoron said he didn’t believe Trump’s explanation.
“As the trier of fact I find that the witness is not credible," Engoron said, adding that he believed Trump was "referring to my ... principal law clerk, who is sitting much closer to me.” The judge noted there’s a barrier between the witness stand and the bench, and said that was part of the reason he believed Trump meant the clerk and not Cohen.

The $10,000 fine comes on top of a $5,000 fine Engoron issued against Trump last week for what he found was a previous violation of his gag order.

The face-off between the judge and the former president was not the first time the issue of the law clerk came up in Wednesday’s court session. On Wednesday morning, Trump lawyer Alina Habba had complained that the clerk was rolling her eyes throughout Tuesday’s cross-examination, calling it “distracting.”


After Engoron issued the fine, Trump’s lawyers asked him to reconsider. The judge said he would not reverse course.
“Don’t do it next time, or it’ll be worse,” the judge said.
The confrontation between the judge and the former president came at a critical moment in the trial, when Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen was testifying against him. The lawsuit brought by New York Attorney General Letitia James accuses Trump of falsely inflating the worth of his real estate empire — an accusation that Cohen has made repeatedly since he and Trump had a bitter falling out.

The showdown between Cohen and Trump in court has been years in the making, and Cohen could prove to be an important witness in the judge’s ultimate decision over how much to penalize Trump or his business.
After the dust-up over the gag order, Trump’s lawyers made a longshot request for the judge to cut the trial short and issue a directed verdict, but the judge rejected that motion.
With that, Trump got up and walked out of the courtroom, muttering, “I’m leaving.”

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Dude wtf is wrong with your brain. Her and the judges behavior was read into the record today by trumps attorneys as a part of an.objection. just how bad is your derangement?

As for her being schumers girlfriend there is a photo of the two together. Nothing has been debunked.
a photo? man trumps dating alot of women.
 
It is interesting watching the leftist ideologues on here so very willing to do anything and tolerate anything to take down Trump. A law clerk to a judge is not a position that is held by a nobody as people on here are stating. It is a position that is held by someone that has serious training. These kinds of positions advise the judge and often write their opinions for them. The fact she and the judge are so incredibly open with their bias against the defendent is problematic on so many levels. Her being in photos with Schumer is a problem as she also is unable to hide her disdain for the defendent and his lawyers. That she is in the ear of the judge during proceedings is also quite strange and disrespectful to everyone on the court including the judge. The judge had list the ability to even pretend to be objective by allowing her conduct in open court.

This trial isn't a trial at all. It is a farce
 
It is interesting watching the leftist ideologues on here so very willing to do anything and tolerate anything to take down Trump. A law clerk to a judge is not a position that is held by a nobody as people on here are stating. It is a position that is held by someone that has serious training. These kinds of positions advise the judge and often write their opinions for them. The fact she and the judge are so incredibly open with their bias against the defendent is problematic on so many levels. Her being in photos with Schumer is a problem as she also is unable to hide her disdain for the defendent and his lawyers. That she is in the ear of the judge during proceedings is also quite strange and disrespectful to everyone on the court including the judge. The judge had list the ability to even pretend to be objective by allowing her conduct in open court.

This trial isn't a trial at all. It is a farce
Don’t you mean “a witch hunt”? Haven’t you been paying attention, hawkedoff?
 
It is interesting watching the leftist ideologues on here so very willing to do anything and tolerate anything to take down Trump. A law clerk to a judge is not a position that is held by a nobody as people on here are stating. It is a position that is held by someone that has serious training. These kinds of positions advise the judge and often write their opinions for them. The fact she and the judge are so incredibly open with their bias against the defendent is problematic on so many levels. Her being in photos with Schumer is a problem as she also is unable to hide her disdain for the defendent and his lawyers. That she is in the ear of the judge during proceedings is also quite strange and disrespectful to everyone on the court including the judge. The judge had list the ability to even pretend to be objective by allowing her conduct in open court.

This trial isn't a trial at all. It is a farce

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