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Trump Fires Vindman - Escorted Out of the White House

It's disappointing that this is where we're at, but I'm not really sure there should have been an expectation that he would continue in the White House. Honor, integrity, honesty, aren't really values that are welcomed in this administration.

Hopefully military leaders can protect him from any further vengeance, but losing the NSC role seems kind of expected even if it's for disappointing reasons.
 
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I’m told Guliani has been promoted to Lead Shadow Policy Administrator.
 
A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat “star witness” Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman “really talked up” President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he “verbally reprimanded” Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. “Do not let the uniform fool you,” Hickman wrote. “He is a political activist in uniform.”

Hickman’s former boss at the Joint Multinational Simulation Center in Grafenwoehr has since gone on the record to corroborate his story.

Hickman, 52, says he’s a disabled wounded warrior who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who received numerous medals, including the Purple Heart.

The retired officer said that Vindman, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Ukraine, made fun of the United States to the point that it made other soldiers “uncomfortable.” For example, Hickman told American Greatness that he heard Vindman call Americans “rednecks”—a word that needed to be translated for the Russians. He said they all had a big laugh at America’s expense.

Vindman, who serves on the National Security Council (NSC), appeared last week before the House Intelligence Committee and testified that he’d had “concerns” about the July phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Vindman’s testimony rested on his negative opinions of the call, rather than any new facts about the call.

Vindman’s former boss, NSC Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison, threw cold water on Vindman’s claims in his own testimony later in the week, saying he didn’t have concerns that “anything illegal was discussed” in the phone call. Morrison also testified that Ukrainian officials were not even aware that military funding had been delayed by the Trump Administration until late August 2019, more than a month after the Trump-Zelensky call.
 
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Vindman wasn’t fired, he was removed from his post at the nsc. He is still active duty military.
True, but what comes next? His removal from the NSC was not normal. Will there be pressure applied to make him pay? We've seen Mark Esper piss his pants today. Trump is a master at searching for someone willing to do his dirty work for him. You can't fire him from the military, but you can smear him. You can block opportunities.
I'd have hated to be the persons in the WH who had to tell Trump that no, he could not just fire the Vindman's, or have them flogged. Honestly, it's like we are living a real life spoof video of Hitler, and we are all waiting for the part where Steiner has to inform Dear Leader of something that he doesn't want to hear.
 
A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat “star witness” Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman “really talked up” President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he “verbally reprimanded” Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. “Do not let the uniform fool you,” Hickman wrote. “He is a political activist in uniform.”

Hickman’s former boss at the Joint Multinational Simulation Center in Grafenwoehr has since gone on the record to corroborate his story.

Hickman, 52, says he’s a disabled wounded warrior who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who received numerous medals, including the Purple Heart.

The retired officer said that Vindman, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Ukraine, made fun of the United States to the point that it made other soldiers “uncomfortable.” For example, Hickman told American Greatness that he heard Vindman call Americans “rednecks”—a word that needed to be translated for the Russians. He said they all had a big laugh at America’s expense.

Vindman, who serves on the National Security Council (NSC), appeared last week before the House Intelligence Committee and testified that he’d had “concerns” about the July phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Vindman’s testimony rested on his negative opinions of the call, rather than any new facts about the call.

Vindman’s former boss, NSC Senior Director for European Affairs Tim Morrison, threw cold water on Vindman’s claims in his own testimony later in the week, saying he didn’t have concerns that “anything illegal was discussed” in the phone call. Morrison also testified that Ukrainian officials were not even aware that military funding had been delayed by the Trump Administration until late August 2019, more than a month after the Trump-Zelensky call.
Cite your source.
 
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General Scott was the guy in Seven Days who was trying to subvert the Constitution. Kinda like the current POTUS. That might be too subtle for you, though.
That was my point. Be patient. The Vinman twins were trying to politically undermine a duly elected president, just like Scott.
Incidentally, a very good book & movie but doesn’t stand the test of time. The good guys were able to stop Scott by threatening to expose the fact he once had an affair.
 
That was my point. Be patient. The Vinman twins were trying to politically undermine a duly elected president

No; they stopped him from illegally bribing a foreign government for political election help with taxpayer money.

If the action was "OK", then why did everyone back off when the facts came out?
Answer that one. Why?
 
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That was my point. Be patient. The Vinman twins were trying to politically undermine a duly elected president, just like Scott.
Incidentally, a very good book & movie but doesn’t stand the test of time. The good guys were able to stop Scott by threatening to expose the fact he once had an affair.
 
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