Trump says he'll keep U.S. in NATO as long as everyone pays "fair share"
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We should absolutely believe him because he does not lie ever about anything.
As long as they pay him, that's what "fair share" means.
And of course there's much bigger issues in play when it comes to NATO then just whether everyone is paying their "fair share", however that's defined.
Trump is just a mobster, only way he can process what NATO is and is about is as a protection racket.
And of course there's much bigger issues in play when it comes to NATO then just whether everyone is paying their "fair share", however that's defined.
Trump is just a mobster, only way he can process what NATO is and is about is as a protection racket.
Coming from the guy who's never paid his own bills, that's laugh-out-loud funny.
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Count me as part of the group that doesn't think "take our ball and go home" is a good geopolitical policy for a POTUS to have.
I also don't think I like the idea of a US President dictating terms to an international organization that the US has been a part of since it's inception. That seems to run counter to the entire concept of the UN.
Note: These opinions should not be misconstrued as an endorsement of everything, or anything in particular, the UN has done or will do.
I also don't think I like the idea of a US President dictating terms to an international organization that the US has been a part of since it's inception. That seems to run counter to the entire concept of the UN.
Note: These opinions should not be misconstrued as an endorsement of everything, or anything in particular, the UN has done or will do.
Trump would let Putin piss on him. Literally
Biden doesn't know what fair share means...
Trump doesn't know what fair share means...
Ex-wife doesn't know what fair share means...
I don't know what fair share means....
Trump doesn't know what fair share means...
Ex-wife doesn't know what fair share means...
I don't know what fair share means....
It means "I'll send over resources and troops to protect you....but first you gotta do something for me. I need $500M to pay off some legal bills here..."
They agreed (or at least some pretended to) before Trump was ever imagined as POTUS:
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In 2014, NATO Heads of State and Government agreed to commit 2% of their national Gross Domestic Product (GDP) to defence spending, to help ensure the Alliance's continued military readiness. This decision was taken in response to Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea, and amid broader instability in the Middle East. The 2014 Defence Investment Pledge built on an earlier commitment to meet this 2% of GDP guideline, agreed in 2006 by NATO Defence Ministers.
Can you not see what the problem with this is? NATO members are already paying their “fair share”. Since the creation of NATO, each country pitches in an agreed upon amount of their annual GNI. If Trump thinks countries like Belgium and Albania should pitch in the same amount as the U.S. then this is just simply him laying the ground work to pull the U.S. out of NATO.
Wish biff's dad would have pulled out.
‘He isn’t dictating the terms, he is holding all members accountable to the current terms. You get that, correct?
Did some of you even bother to read the article or you do you just throw your hands up in tizzy fit because trump? ****ing Christ. Seriously, why would anyone have a problem with this?
Just because you don't agree doesn't make it wrong. However for Trump, I'm betting "fair share" would be a moving target, and one that can never be quite reached.
I did not read the article. I lived through part 1, and still don't appreciate or respect his insistence on threatening to pull out of NATO. At best the same thing happens the first time he did this and at worst his ego forces him into a situation where he actually considers walking away. Neither of those situations, IMO, are much to write home about, and probably aren't worth the potential blowback.
Brother, if you weren’t paying attention during Trump’s time in office then there is no point in continuing this argument.
He does not (and cannot) "pull the US out of NATO" at this point.
But what he could do is far worse: as CINC, simply refuse to commit troops to defend NATO allies, effectively ending NATO as an alliance. Which he would do in a heartbeat, if someone like Putin or MBS paid him to do it.
NATO doesn’t have dues. Crappy supper clubs in Florida have dues.
Nobody in the US asked if the NATO nations were paid up before they sent troops to Afghanistan.
The 2 percent GDP is silly, anyway. 2 percent of GDP means different things to Germany versus Albania. Greece is +2 percent, and France isn’t. Yet, if we need assistance France has the capabilities needed. Some nations contribute large facilities and maintain them. The UK is +2 but spends billions on big aircraft carriers and ballistic subs versus air power and the infantry a war in Europe would require.
What would be more helpful, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine seems to be provoking, is more discussion and planning for integrated forces and weapons platforms.
Nobody in the US asked if the NATO nations were paid up before they sent troops to Afghanistan.
The 2 percent GDP is silly, anyway. 2 percent of GDP means different things to Germany versus Albania. Greece is +2 percent, and France isn’t. Yet, if we need assistance France has the capabilities needed. Some nations contribute large facilities and maintain them. The UK is +2 but spends billions on big aircraft carriers and ballistic subs versus air power and the infantry a war in Europe would require.
What would be more helpful, and the Russian invasion of Ukraine seems to be provoking, is more discussion and planning for integrated forces and weapons platforms.
huh. I wasn’t arguing with you. I was pointing out how *****ng dumb your post was.
Ah my mistake. Of course you weren't arguing. MAGA is incapable of arguing. You guys just revert to curse words and attempting to sound intelligent.
Maybe we could put in a system where the super wealthy countries have a variety of ways to dodge paying the full percentage owed while the poorer countries have no option but to pay whatever percent is allocated to them.
If anybody questions us not paying our percentage, we can just point out that we pay more overall because 1% of our money is way more than 20% of theirs. See? It's fair.
If anybody questions us not paying our percentage, we can just point out that we pay more overall because 1% of our money is way more than 20% of theirs. See? It's fair.
God damn you are ****ing stupid. Maga? Never have and never would vote for trump. I just don’t lack reading comprehension and can’t stand it when people make shit up. Kind of like your first post. Seriously. Just take your L here.
