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Trump threatens ‘large scale’ sanctions on Russia after major attack on Ukraine

The EU has been posturing on these things for the last 3 years. Germany is solidly on the fence, and it's no surprise we don't hear much from them. They have an almost complete reliance on Russian energy, particularly natural gas. Biden promised to mitigate that with US supplies, but that was an empty promise given Biden's policies on production and exports of US natural gas.

It would be really nice if there was a way to educate the US population on all of this stuff.
"It would be really nice if there was a way to educate the US population on all of this stuff. "

What a beautiful thing to say after typing a paragraph that is factually incorrect
 
The EU has been posturing on these things for the last 3 years. Germany is solidly on the fence, and it's no surprise we don't hear much from them. They have an almost complete reliance on Russian energy, particularly natural gas. Biden promised to mitigate that with US supplies, but that was an empty promise given Biden's policies on production and exports of US natural gas.

It would be really nice if there was a way to educate the US population on all of this stuff. The BBC and Reuters are far superior to US media. There are many other decent news sources as well, but most people in the US rely on MSNBC, FoxNews, CNN, and partisan tweets for their news and indoctrination.
I rely on my own commonsense and the words from Filthy Don, now and the past. I now know that I can't trust a word he says, and have to double check everything. I'm very sure this will not change. The man has a real problem that can't be fixed, MENTALLY ILL.
 
The EU has been posturing on these things for the last 3 years. Germany is solidly on the fence, and it's no surprise we don't hear much from them. They have an almost complete reliance on Russian energy, particularly natural gas. Biden promised to mitigate that with US supplies, but that was an empty promise given Biden's policies on production and exports of US natural gas.

It would be really nice if there was a way to educate the US population on all of this stuff. The BBC and Reuters are far superior to US media. There are many other decent news sources as well, but most people in the US rely on MSNBC, FoxNews, CNN, and partisan tweets for their news and indoctrination.
Trump told them to thier face their reliance on Russian oil would be the Achilles.
 
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Trump gave Putin nearly everything he wanted and Putin responds by launching a massive attack. But it is Ukraine that is the problem here.
Yup, Trump bitched out to Putin for sure and now let's take a stroll down memory lane again to see ol Finance's opinions on this relationship. The posts all aged well.

And just because I know it's coming, you're not living "rent free" in my head, Finance. I just enjoy reading dumb shit when I'm bored, and I'm bored today:)

You might be right.

There is the fact that Putin didn't invade Ukraine while Trump was actually in office.

I guess I'm just more results oriented than most folks. I don't pay as much attention to all the noise as I do the outcome.

Right. Do tell how Putin has manipulated Trump, or will manipulate Trump in the future?

And if you believe Putin on that, I guess you have to believe Putin when he says he wants Biden to win, right?
Do you believe everything he tells you?

Putin is a bully. Bullies prey on the weak.

I believe Putin when Putin says Biden is predictable, and when he says Trump is unpredictable. Don't you?
Putin prefers Biden for POTUS.
Bibi probably is. Irony is the Hamas / Palestinian supporters will be voting against Biden, and likely voting for Trump.

Putin is loving some Biden.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said that he preferred President Biden to Donald Trump in the U.S. election, describing the president as “more experienced” and “predictable” in his first public comments on the race. ~ February 14, 2024

Previously, Putin had described Trump as unpredictable.
Um, Putin said a couple weeks ago that he prefers Biden over Trump.
Why do they love Putin? Because we're not willing to fight an endless proxy war costing $200B that we have to borrow?

BTW, just an observation, but Putin could have invaded Ukraine when Trump was POTUS, but didn't. Seems like that Putin connection doesn't quite hold water.

Not really. Dems claimed, and are still claiming in this thread, that Trump was in Putin's pocket. That turned out to not be the case. The fact is, Putin tested the waters with Biden, then went ahead and invaded.
 
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Suspended Ukraine aid and intelligence sharing. Made him agree Ukraine started the war. And that Ukraine must accept any peace deal offered.
Within the first 20 seconds of the Zalenskyy Trump Vance meeting JD Vance clearly states Putin invaded Ukraine.


If you haven't figured it out, Zalwnskyy needs this war to keep going to stay in power or he is going to get killed by the powers to be.
 
Within the first 20 seconds of the Zalenskyy Trump Vance meeting JD Vance clearly states Putin invaded Ukraine.


If you haven't figured it out, Zalwnskyy needs this war to keep going to stay in power or he is going to get killed by the powers to be.
But Trump said Ukraine is at fault and Zelensky is a dictator. Don’t give a crap what VP goth boy says. JD makes no decisions that matter other than the tie breaking vote in the Senate.
 
But Trump said Ukraine is at fault and Zelensky is a dictator. Don’t give a crap what VP goth boy says. JD makes no decisions that matter other than the tie breaking vote in the Senate.
He said "I believe i can end this war, today I heard "well we were not invited" well, you have been there for 3 years, you shouldn't have started it you could have made a deal".



And again Vance clearly said "Russia invaded Ukraine".
 
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He said "I believe i can end this war, today I heard "well we were not invited" well, you have been there for 3 years, you shouldn't have started it you could have made a deal".



And again Vance clearly said "Russia invaded Ukraine".
Again who gives a shit what Vance says. Trump clearly said Ukraine started the War. Forced Russia to invade. Also was previously quoted as calling the invasion a genius move by Putin.
Trump is Putin’s bitch. End of thread.
 
Again who gives a shit what Vance says. Trump clearly said Ukraine stated the War. Forced Russia to invade. Also was previously quoted as calling the invasion a genius move by Putin.
Trump is Putin’s bitch. End of thread.
You're fighting a never ending battle here. WDDT will never admit he's wrong about anything. Someone could say "drinking water is healthy" and he'd go down some batshit crazy conspiracy rabbit hole and come back arguing that water actually isn't healthy.

He's a moron that is incapable of admitting he's wrong about anything. Oh yeah, and he's racist. The typical lil small town, fake tough guy, know it all.
 
"It would be really nice if there was a way to educate the US population on all of this stuff. "

What a beautiful thing to say after typing a paragraph that is factually incorrect
It took Germany over a year to switch their energy source from Russia. The US begged other countries to help make that happen.
 
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Not really. Dems claimed, and are still claiming in this thread, that Trump was in Putin's pocket. That turned out to not be the case. The fact is, Putin tested the waters with Biden, then went ahead and invaded.
LOL...so Trump DIDN'T "pause" sharing intelligence with Ukraine and freeze aid? Trump didn't berate Zelensky in front of the entire world and blame him for starting the war? Oh...yes...he did. Really good thing then that he's not in Putin's pocket.
 
LOL...so Trump DIDN'T "pause" sharing intelligence with Ukraine and freeze aid? Trump didn't berate Zelensky in front of the entire world and blame him for starting the war? Oh...yes...he did. Really good thing then that he's not in Putin's pocket.
yeah but the one guy read a prepared statement before they started berating him

surely that prepared statement is what they really think, not the subsequent 45 minutes
 
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I don't think the cons like the way this thread is going, its not going the way they thought.
 
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Amazes me to see MAGAs defend Putin and Russia here. Day after day.
Smh.
I actually saw a comment in this thread claiming Putin tested the waters with Biden then decided to attack Ukraine. There is literally nothing these people won’t lie about or flip their position on.

“Biden was weak so Putin attacked!” “No, Biden and NATO backed Putin in a corner!” “No, Ukraine started the shit! ….”Wait, no, back to Biden is a pussy!”
 
IF Trump can put large scale sanction on Russia, what's that say for the previous admins attempts at thwarting them? I'm sure most people thought we did all we could do
Yes, I’m sure Trump will be way more strict with Russia than his predecessors.
 
"President Donald Trump on Friday, March 7, said that he finds it "easier" to deal with Russia than with Ukraine in efforts to end the war in the pro-Western country – and that he trusts Vladimir Putin. "I believe him," he said in a televised press conference at the White House."
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/united-st...nctions-over-ukraine-attacks_6738923_133.html

I mean Putin has been proven to be a trustworthy and reliable actor on the world stage. Why wouldn’t you trust him?
 
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