Trumps case in the NY Appellate Court

[ihhawk]

Sorry if Pepsi, was there a discussion about the NY appellate court hearing on the civil fraud case?

 

[ihhawk]

 

[dgordo]

Very weird because to my recollection appellate courts can’t issue sanctions unless the sanctions involve the appellate process.

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

@Aardvark86

 

[Formerly Rockymtnole]

Is there anything new or is this a rehash of the hearing from a couple weeks ago?

 

[ihhawk]

Is there anything new or is this a rehash of the hearing from a couple weeks ago?

It could absolutely be a rehash. I started seeing the videos on Twitter the past few days. May be Pepsi

 

[Aardvark86]

First of all, i'm really scratching my head as i certainly don't recall anything about the issue on appeal that raised sanction questions.

Second, as to the question of authority, I'd think an appellate court would be most concerned with what's done in front of it, though i suppose as part of an order in an appeal they could direct the lower court to consider in the first instance whether sanctions might be appropriate for some conduct below.

Finally, while i didn't listen to the whole argument, the snippet above just seems like something that has been taken wildly out of context. It sounds like someone may have suggested that a case was miscited or overstated, which of course lawyers do all the time, and the attorney may have just been using the word "sanction" sort of sloppily.

 

[ihhawk]

First of all, i'm really scratching my head as i certainly don't recall anything about the issue on appeal that raised sanction questions.

Second, as to the question of authority, I'd think an appellate court would be most concerned with what's done in front of it, though i suppose as part of an order in an appeal they could direct the lower court to consider in the first instance whether sanctions might be appropriate for some conduct below.

Finally, while i didn't listen to the whole argument, the snippet above just seems like something that has been taken wildly out of context. It sounds like someone may have suggested that a case was miscited or overstated, which of course lawyers do all the time, and the attorney may have just been using the word "sanction" sort of sloppily.

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members of the five-judge appeals court panel suggested that New York Attorney General Tish James had overstepped by using the particular New York fraud statute she used to bring the case against Trump. As soon as Deputy Solicitor General Judith Vale, arguing for James, began her opening remarks, she was cut off by Associate Justice David Friedman, who questioned whether her office had ever before used the statute “to upset a private business transaction that was between equally sophisticated partners.”

Some of the commentary from right wing sources who have posted videos of the hearing point to the potential of overstepping by the AG.

 

[Aardvark86]

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members of the five-judge appeals court panel suggested that New York Attorney General Tish James had overstepped by using the particular New York fraud statute she used to bring the case against Trump. As soon as Deputy Solicitor General Judith Vale, arguing for James, began her opening remarks, she was cut off by Associate Justice David Friedman, who questioned whether her office had ever before used the statute “to upset a private business transaction that was between equally sophisticated partners.”

Some of the commentary from right wing sources who have posted videos of the hearing point to the potential of overstepping by the AG.

oh, i understand that, but it is hardly something you would talk about sanctions over. a simple question of whether a particular application of a broad statute was within the statute's intended purpose. very vanilla legal question, and again, miles and miles from sanctionable.

 

[ihhawk]

oh, i understand that, but it is hardly something you would talk about sanctions over. a simple question of whether a particular application of a broad statute was within the statute's intended purpose. very vanilla legal question, and again, miles and miles from sanctionable.

I’m not going to pretend I understand the legal proceedings. I was just seeing comments made that during the closing argument, the lawyers for the state were making the claims that they should not be sanctioned. Odd for sure.

 

[BDE420]

Deep derp derp



I mean duh who didn’t see this