Tulsi Gabbard doing the Kremlin's work...

[NoleATL]

Its almost like they keep trying to find the next biggest lie... And, the beneficiary always seems to be Putin.

Tulsi Gabbard Spreads Kremlin Lies About Bioweapons​

March 13, 2022 Propaganda, Russia


Forbes reports:

Tulsi Gabbard shared false information Sunday about U.S. involvement in Ukraine biological laboratories Sunday, giving credence to an unfounded Russian-backed conspiracy theory the U.S. has warned could serve as justification for Russia to use biological and chemical weapons against Ukraine.
In a two-minute video posted to her Twitter Sunday morning, Gabbard said there are 25 to 30 American-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine and called for an immediate ceasefire at the laboratories as they could spread dangerous pathogens.

Tulsi Gabbard Latest To Push Russian-Backed Conspiracy About U.S.-Backed Biological Labs In Ukraine

Known for her pro-Russia stances and frequent conspiracy theories, former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard shared misleading information Sunday about the danger of biological laboratories in Ukraine.

www.forbes.com

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

Its almost like they keep trying to find the next biggest lie... And, the beneficiary always seems to be Putin.

Tulsi Gabbard Spreads Kremlin Lies About Bioweapons​

March 13, 2022 Propaganda, Russia


Forbes reports:

Tulsi Gabbard Latest To Push Russian-Backed Conspiracy About U.S.-Backed Biological Labs In Ukraine

Known for her pro-Russia stances and frequent conspiracy theories, former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard shared misleading information Sunday about the danger of biological laboratories in Ukraine.

www.forbes.com

The reason for her vote not to impeach becomes clearer by the day,

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

Its almost like they keep trying to find the next biggest lie... And, the beneficiary always seems to be Putin.

Tulsi Gabbard Spreads Kremlin Lies About Bioweapons​

March 13, 2022 Propaganda, Russia


Forbes reports:

Tulsi Gabbard Latest To Push Russian-Backed Conspiracy About U.S.-Backed Biological Labs In Ukraine

Known for her pro-Russia stances and frequent conspiracy theories, former congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard shared misleading information Sunday about the danger of biological laboratories in Ukraine.

www.forbes.com

Man, I remember liking her a lot.

Not anymore.

 

[Moral]

I wonder if she was always terrible or if she got corrupted along the way.

 

[BlackNGoldBleeder]

I wonder if she was always terrible or if she got corrupted along the way.

It’s a great question.

 

[BelemNole]

I wonder if she was always terrible or if she got corrupted along the way.

She was always terrible- people were just intent on finding someone who “saw both sides.” Even when the other side was shit. Plus they wanted to bang her.

 

[TC Nole OX]

 

[HawkNester]

She’s clearly on Putin’s payroll.

 

[Morrison71]

Good on Mitt but of course he isn’t calling out any Republicans.

 

[Chishawk1425]

Email lady nailed it again

 

[tarheelbybirth]

@seminole97 pushing Russian propaganda makes her a Russian asset - uniform or not. Do you disagree?

 

[seminole97]

@seminole97 pushing Russian propaganda makes her a Russian asset - uniform or not. Do you disagree?

What’s the ‘Russian propaganda’?

“Uh, Ukraine has uh, biological research facilities, which, in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russia forces may be seeking to uh, gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of uh, Russian forces should they approach.”

Are neocons like Nuland hyping a non-existent concern?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

What’s the ‘Russian propaganda’?

“Uh, Ukraine has uh, biological research facilities, which, in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russia forces may be seeking to uh, gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of uh, Russian forces should they approach.”

Are neocons like Nuland hyping a non-existent concern?

LOL...and here we go with the "neocons" again. I don't know...were the "neocons" right about the biolabs in Iraq? Or was that the Bilderbergs? You get them confused.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

What’s the ‘Russian propaganda’?

“Uh, Ukraine has uh, biological research facilities, which, in fact we are now quite concerned Russian troops, Russia forces may be seeking to uh, gain control of. So, we are working with the Ukrainians on how they can prevent any of those research materials from falling into the hands of uh, Russian forces should they approach.”

Are neocons like Nuland hyping a non-existent concern?

BTW...is there an industrialized country anywhere in the world that doesn't have "biological research facilities"?

 

[seminole97]

BTW...is there an industrialized country anywhere in the world that doesn't have "biological research facilities"?

Is that as relevant a question as how many industrialized nations have biological research facilities funded by the DoD?

BTW, you didn’t answer my question. What is the ‘Russian propaganda’ that you allege Tulsi is spreading

Is Nuland fear mongering to invoke those labs and Russian troops when asked directly whether or not Ukraine possessed chemical or biological weapons?

LOL...and here we go with the "neocons" again. I don't know...were the "neocons" right about the biolabs in Iraq? Or was that the Bilderbergs? You get them confused.

Perusal of the quote feature will demonstrate to anyone I’ve never used the term you suggest.
The confusion is yours.
When you read the term neocon in the New York Times or Washington Post, does it likewise baffle you as to what foreign policy advocates they’re mentioning?
They’re interventionists, specifically those who feel the US should use its military in cases beyond the mere defense of our country or existing treaty obligations.

 

[lucas80]

She was always terrible- people were just intent on finding someone who “saw both sides.” Even when the other side was shit. Plus they wanted to bang her.

This is how I knew she was trouble. When some of the biggest right wing dummies of HROT earnestly said they thought she seemed rational.
And, they wanted to bang her.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Perusal of the quote feature will demonstrate to anyone I’ve never used the term you suggest.
The confusion is yours.

Not under this nickname.

 

[seminole97]

Not under this nickname.

Your confusion multiplies.

Is this how you avoid answering my question regarding what ‘Russian propaganda’ you’re accusing Tulsi of spreading?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Your confusion multiplies.

Is this how you avoid answering my question regarding what ‘Russian propaganda’ you’re accusing Tulsi of spreading?

Where are the "US funded biolabs"? Did Nuland talk about those? Are you sure she wasn't talking about a research facility where pathogens might be studied like...you know...we have? The idea that the US is funding bio-weapons labs in Ukraine is Russian f'n propaganda they've been pushing for years. Do you have ANY proof that it's true?

 

[ihhawk]

 

[seminole97]

Where are the "US funded biolabs"? Did Nuland talk about those? Are you sure she wasn't talking about a research facility where pathogens might be studied like...you know...we have? The idea that the US is funding bio-weapons labs in Ukraine is Russian f'n propaganda they've been pushing for years. Do you have ANY proof that it's true?

Did Tulsi say “bio-weapons labs”?

The only person to make a linkage between the bio labs in Ukraine and biological weapons was Nuland when unprompted she brought them up instead of answering Rubio’s straightforward question regarding whether or not Ukraine had chemical and biological weapons.

You probably won’t read the Tulsi thread below that has your answer. And if you did you might not click the link to the DoD press release that details that answer, so I’ll quote it here:

“The United States, through BTRP, has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine since 2005, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites. BTRP has improved Ukraine’s biological safety, security and surveillance for both human and animal health.”

 

[TJ8869]

Good on Mitt but of course he isn’t calling out any Republicans.

View embedded media

He has called out Republicans.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...aine-treason-tucker-carlson-b2024408.html?amp

 

[cigaretteman]

Hard to believe that she was a serious potential presidential candidate not that long ago. Wow!

 

[tarheelbybirth]

“The United States, through BTRP, has invested approximately $200 million in Ukraine since 2005, supporting 46 Ukrainian laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites. BTRP has improved Ukraine’s biological safety, security and surveillance for both human and animal health.”

Between 2004 and 2015, the US invested over $300 million (that would be more) in African laboratories, health facilities, and diagnostic sites to research, prevent, and treat just Ebola. I'm fairly certain it was done to improve the "biological safety, security and surveillance" of that deadly disease. So what?

We invested in the Wuhan lab and we sure wouldn't want a BSL-4 lab to fall into an enemy's hands. We have labs in this country that do research on anthrax and botulism...we wouldn't want those falling into the hands of terrorists.

I'll ask again - did Nuland say a word about "US funded biolabs"? A simple yes or no would suffice.

 

[seminole97]

I'll ask again - did Nuland say a word about "US funded biolabs"? A simple yes or no would suffice.

If you’re asking did she say the words, “US funded biolabs,” I don’t think you’ll find that quote in her testimony.
I already quoted her.

If you’re asking, when she brought up bio labs in response to Senator Rubio directly asking her if Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons, if she was talking about the ones that received US funding, yes, those are the labs she was talking about.
I can’t think of a reason to assume she’s discussing other biological labs that the US hasn’t provided funding.

 

[TJ8869]

Hard to believe that she was a serious potential presidential candidate not that long ago. Wow!

She was never what I would consider a serious candidate. I don’t recall her ever getting even 2% support during the primaries. Her most substantial contribution to the campaign was stopping Kamala’s momentum when she appeared to be mounting a bit of a challenge to Biden.

Harris told her “that little girl was me” story in one of the debates and shot up to about 15% in the polls. In the very next debate, Tulsi attacked her on her record of prosecuting and incarcerating blacks for smoking marijuana. Harris plummeted back down to 3% and that was all she wrote.

 

[tarheelbybirth]

If you’re asking did she say the words, “US funded biolabs,” I don’t think you’ll find that quote in her testimony.
I already quoted her.

Great. So why did Gabbard make that distinction? That's a specific point of Russian disinformation and has been for years. Gabbard amplified it. That's an asset to Russia no matter how you slice it.

If you’re asking, when she brought up bio labs in response to Senator Rubio directly asking her if Ukraine has chemical or biological weapons, if she was talking about the ones that received US funding, yes, those are the labs she was talking about.
I can’t think of a reason to assume she’s discussing other biological labs that the US hasn’t provided funding.

Really? Why not? Wouldn't we be concerned about ANY biological research facility falling into Russian hands? Seems curious that we would limit that only to those which received US funding. Can you think of a reason the US wouldn't be concerned about the Russians gaining access to ANY lab that researched dangerous pathogens?

 

[Chishawk1425]

Related

 

[Whiskeydeltadeltatango]

Tulsi and Trump run together as the party of TnT......

 

[tarheelbybirth]

Tuckyo Rose...lol

 

[Chishawk1425]

Tuckyo Rose...lol

Yes it is lol but he's done irreversible damage.

 

[ihhawk]

 

[seminole97]

Great. So why did Gabbard make that distinction? That's a specific point of Russian disinformation and has been for years. Gabbard amplified it. That's an asset to Russia no matter how you slice it.

I’m unclear on what distinction are you charging her with having made.
Perhaps you have a quote?

Really? Why not? Wouldn't we be concerned about ANY biological research facility falling into Russian hands? Seems curious that we would limit that only to those which received US funding. Can you think of a reason the US wouldn't be concerned about the Russians gaining access to ANY lab that researched dangerous pathogens?

So we’ve moved on from questioning if the US funds biolabs in Ukraine (I’m assuming you now realize they do, and that Tulsi wasn’t lying when bringing that up), to questioning if they have more dangerous labs that we’re not also funding?

I would assume, without additional evidence, that the ones funded by the DoD probably had the scarier potential. Disagree?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

I’m unclear on what distinction are you charging her with having made.
Perhaps you have a quote?

LOL...you posted the quotes. Figure it out.

So we’ve moved on from questioning if the US funds biolabs in Ukraine (I’m assuming you now realize they do, and that Tulsi wasn’t lying when bringing that up), to questioning if they have more dangerous labs that we’re not also funding?

I would assume, without additional evidence, that the ones funded by the DoD probably had the scarier potential. Disagree?

It was never questioned that the US funds research...at labs all over the world. And, apparently, you can't read clear English. I didn't "question" anything. I'm sure Ukraine has labs that work with what would be considered dangerous materials. Ummm...psssst...most countries in the world do that kind of research. I would assume that every research university in this country has labs that work with dangerous materials. I'm not sure what point you think you're making there. You do seem stuck on this DoD connection. So...let's look at that.

The BTRP has partnered with - among others - the governments of Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Cambodia, South Korea, Australia, Thailand, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Georgia, and *GASP* RUSSIA!!!

In Tblisi, Georgia, the BTRP established the Richard G. Lugar Center for Public Health Research. That's a "biological research facility". One of the largest and most advanced facilities of it's kind in the world.

BTRP trained scientists in Thailand using BTRP funded equipment found the first case of Covid outside of China confirming that it had escaped that country.

So you can take your "scarier potential" based on that idiotic criteria and stuff it.

 

[seminole97]

It was never questioned that the US funds research...at labs all over the world.

“Where are the "US funded biolabs"? Did Nuland talk about those?”

You’re running yourself in circles.

Is this how you avoid answering my question regarding what ‘Russian propaganda’ you’re accusing Tulsi of spreading?

 

[tarheelbybirth]

“Where are the "US funded biolabs"? Did Nuland talk about those?”

You’re running yourself in circles.

Is this how you avoid answering my question regarding what ‘Russian propaganda’ you’re accusing Tulsi of spreading?

FFS...you have your head so far up Putin's ass it's like talking directly to him. Nuland spoke of "biological research facilities" in response to a direct question. YOU quoted her. Then you try to use her testimony - where she said not one word about US funding - to excuse Gabbard singling out "US funded biolabs" in a direct parroting of Russian propaganda. And you excuse that by citing the DoD's BTRP program that has been involved with countries ALL OVER THE WORLD. Do you even have a clue what that program does in the former Soviet countries? Take a hike, comrade. You have gone full-Putin. You should never go full-Putin.

 

[pdxhawk]

the skunk stripe trope is strong with this one. also, she's a complete dingbat. member of a homophobic cult. tongue bathed Assad. played footsie with Modi. and Rogan loves her. 'nuf said.

 

[Titanhawk2]

The reason for her vote not to impeach becomes clearer by the day,

You mean no evidence of an impeachable offense, right? You seem to be against political shams, why not all of them?

 

[seminole97]

Nuland spoke of "biological research facilities" in response to a direct question.

She was directly asked, “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”
She decided to not answer that question, but instead to talk about the labs.

YOU quoted her. Then you try to use her testimony - where she said not one word about US funding - to excuse Gabbard singling out "US funded biolabs" in a direct parroting of Russian propaganda.

So your assertion is that simply affirming the fact we fund the biological labs is ‘Russian propaganda’?
Is the DoD press release that mentions their funding ‘Russian propaganda’, or is it just ‘Russian propaganda’ to point out that press release?

Or as you assuming the labs that Nuland is worried about falling into Russian hands aren’t the ones the DoD spent millions on, but some other labs? Is that the latest spin?

 

[Menace Sockeyes]

You mean no evidence of an impeachable offense, right? You seem to be against political shams, why not all of them?

Shameful how MAGAts still won’t admit the attempted withholding of defense aid from Ukraine, if they didn’t announce a sham investigation, was an impeachable offense. Is it tough knowing you were Putin’s bitch? Or do you just accept that your party is an immoral clown show? 😂 🤡