We offered a 3* white guy…we’re saved!
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No flounder, you didn't throw up in front of Dean Wormer. You threw up on Dean Wormer.
Imagine if OP saw Chris tadjo, dembele, and seyou walking down his street.
Does FM offer anyone else? It has a proven record of mediocrity, why change?
There are plenty of valid criticisms of Fran. Talent evaluation isn't one of them. He's objectively one of the best in the entire country at it.
It's one of the primary reasons that he's still in a power conference job after a decade and a half of never winning a regular season conference title or making the second weekend of the tourney.
What's next, OP? Slamming Fran's ability to coach offense?
It's one of the primary reasons that he's still in a power conference job after a decade and a half of never winning a regular season conference title or making the second weekend of the tourney.
What's next, OP? Slamming Fran's ability to coach offense?
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He definitely has a proven recipe for making the Tourney fairly regularly. He hasn't taken Iowa to a Sweet 16 once in his 13-year tenure. I wouldn't look at that record and think this is a coach who is one of the best in the country at evaluating talent.
As did Illinois, WV, Syracuse, ISU and Purdue. But keep up your positive posting, it's refreshing to learn how much you know.
So this skill in Talent evaluation put Fran as one of the best in the country? Yet he's 0-for-a career in making it past 2nd game in NCAA tourney---being great at talent evaluation should translate into excess wins, yet it hasn't.
Fran is objectively a high basement/low ceiling coach. For every Garza you can find 2-3 whiffs. Garza great recruit, but Dom Uhl and Maishe Dailey not so good an evalution. Fran has had his share of whiffs which would run counter to the argument he's best in business at talent evaluation. The fact he whiffs so often and can't recruit/retain good out of state black athletes is why he's never accumulated enough surrounding talent to make NCAA runs when he did have stars like White, Marble, Jok, Uthoff, Garza, Weezy, Cook, Murray's on the team.
He's hovering a little of over 0.500 in B1G play for his time at Iowa and Iowa over long-term has been about 0.500 in B1G ball, so Fran is objectively kind of average/mediocre in historical context. Not terrible coach to be slammed, just not a great coach to be worried about keeping.
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
Fran has done better finding wings and bigs but his record with guards is marginal.
Below are some wins at G.
All B1G:
Marble
Jok
JBo
Weezy
Perkins
Below are some wins at G.
All B1G:
Marble
Jok
JBo
Weezy
Perkins
Not necessarily. There's identifying talent and coaching it up. Two different things.
Fran has also been the first to offer a lot of guys who we then miss on when better programs follow Fran's lead. That obviously doesn't lead to "excess wins."
Its because he wants his teams to be mostly bigs and tall shooters.
He doesn't run into unexpected talent at guard often because he offers so few.
He passed on offering Monte Morris because he had Gessel and Clemons.
He's good at identifying his preferred type of talent.
Mostly at the 4 and 5 spot which has often led to playing too many bigs at once.
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
He likes long and lean. Look how many guys we have signed in 15 years that are 6’2” or shorter. Not a long list.
The #1 player in the 2024 class is a guy by the name of Cooper Flagg. Committed to Duke.
Flagg is 6'9. White.
Something tells me that even if we signed this guy (in our wildest dreams) OP still would have been upset about it.
Flagg is 6'9. White.
Something tells me that even if we signed this guy (in our wildest dreams) OP still would have been upset about it.
BirdistheWord
HB Legend
Curtis J would be skeptical but it would be hard to complain about a 5 star. Who was our last 5 star recruit?
