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US House approves referendum to ‘decolonize’ Puerto Rico

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While the sentiment is laudable, why are they wasting time on legislation that won't pass the Senate instead of dealing with the upcoming debt limit and protecting the Electoral College?

The U.S. House passed a bill Thursday that would allow Puerto Rico to hold the first-ever binding referendum on whether to become a state or gain some sort of independence, in a last-ditch effort that stands little chance of passing the Senate.

The bill, which passed 233-191 with some Republican support, would offer voters in the U.S. territory three options: statehood, independence or independence with free association.



“It is crucial to me that any proposal in Congress to decolonize Puerto Rico be informed and led by Puerto Ricans,” said Rep. Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, which oversees affairs in U.S. territories.

The proposal would commit Congress to accept Puerto Rico into the United States as the 51st state if voters on the island approved it. Voters also could choose outright independence or independence with free association, whose terms would be defined following negotiations over foreign affairs, U.S. citizenship and use of the U.S. dollar.


Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, who has worked on the issue throughout his career, said it was “a long and torturous path” to get the proposal to the House floor.

“For far too long, the people of Puerto Rico have been excluded from the full promise of American democracy and self-determination that our nation has always championed,” the Maryland Democrat said.

After passing the Democrat-controlled House, the bill now goes to a split Senate where it faces a ticking clock before the end of the year and Republican lawmakers who have long opposed statehood.

Puerto Rico Gov. Pedro Pierluisi, of the pro-statehood New Progressive Party, traveled to Washington for the vote. “It’s going to be a historic day because it’s going to create a precedent that we hadn’t had until now,” he said.

Members of his party, including Puerto Rico Resident Commissioner Jenniffer González, cheered the expected approval of the bill, although reaction in the U.S. territory was largely muted and tinged with frustration since it is expected to be voted down in the Senate.

The proposal of a binding referendum has exasperated many on an island that already has held seven nonbinding referendums on its political status, with no overwhelming majority emerging. The last referendum was held in November 2020, with 53% of votes for statehood and 47% against, with only a little more than half of registered voters participating.

The proposed binding referendum would be the first time that Puerto Rico’s current status as a U.S. commonwealth is not included as an option, a blow to the main opposition Popular Democratic Party, which upholds the status quo.

Pablo José Hernández Rivera, an attorney in Puerto Rico, said approval of the bill by the House would be “inconsequential” like the approval of previous bills in 1998 and 2010.

“We Puerto Ricans are tired of the fact that the New Progressive Party has spent 28 years in Washington spending resources on sterile and undemocratic status projects,” he said.

González, Puerto Rico’s representative in Congress, praised the bill and said it would provide the island with the self-determination it deserves.

“Many of us are not in agreement about how that future should be, but we all accept that the decision should belong to the people of Puerto Rico,” she said.

 
Dumbed down pro's and con's of this?

Would we have to add another star to our flag?
 
You'd think Republicans would be all for this. They hate having to send money to Puerto Rico for anything and if they were to vote for full independence then they no longer become our problem. I guess they are too afraid they would just choose statehood instead.
 
Why is anyone against letting Puerto Ricans vote on the nature of their association with the United States? Any of those 191 who voted against can eat a bag of dicks the next time they start spouting off about freedom and liberty.
It’s very weird to invoke colonialism for an Island where they all speak Spanish. That ship sailed long ago.
 
Isn't the best answer is remove any hint of influence, and let them be an independent nation?
 
It’s like pot calling the kettle and this is a legit question as I don’t know. But aren’t they incredibly in debt? Letting them choose wouldn’t that set them up for total failure?
 
I've been to PR a couple of times and living in CFL, friends and neighbors with many. Such a great culture, loyal to a fault, and fun to have get togethers with, but gottdamn, they are like the French, they love to hate each other and they will argue over the color of the sky til the sun comes down, then argue about the moon. And don't even let politics come into play. Hell, even the Cubans, Southern good ol boys, and Yankee snowbirds sit back, tap their beers with each other, and stf to watch that spectacular shitshow.
 
You'd think Republicans would be all for this. They hate having to send money to Puerto Rico for anything and if they were to vote for full independence then they no longer become our problem. I guess they are too afraid they would just choose statehood instead.
I believe it was part of their platform before Hurricane Trump hit the GOP
 
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Dumbed down pro's and con's of this?
Would we have to add another star to our flag?
What’s the deal with them now- do we tax them?
The first is similar to the descending rows of stars [6-5-6-5-6-5-6-5-6] we have today. On the 51-star version the rows of stars would descend: 9-8-9-8-9-8.

America (51)

A second draft of the 51-star flag sees the row pattern altered to: 6-7-8-9-8-7-6.

America (51.2)

The pro-statehood New Progressive Party of Puerto Rico have designed their own 51-star flag that sees the stars positioned in a circle. There’s one in the middle, five around it, 10 around them, 15 around them and 20 on the outer ring.

America (51.PR)

On the same day as the 2012 U.S. presidential election Puerto Rico held a status referendum on its current relationship with America. Fifty-four per cent of those who voted said Puerto Rico shouldn’t continue its current territorial status, while 61 per cent preferred U.S.-statehood as the alternative.

Puerto Rico has been an unincorporated U.S. territory since the 1898 Spanish-American War and its citizens were granted U.S. citizenship in 1917. But Puerto Ricans cannot vote in presidential elections unless they live in America, which also controls the island’s foreign policy.

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Puerto Rico holds a unique position as an unincorporated U.S. territory. Under Internal Revenue Code (IRC) §933, Puerto Rico source income is excluded from U.S. federal tax. In 2012, enduring economic hardship and seeking a means to boost its economy, Puerto Rico enacted two laws, Act 20 and Act 22-intended as major tax incentives to promote foreign investment. While Acts 20 and 22 are only applicable for Puerto Rico income tax purposes, U.S. citizens willing to become bona fide residents of Puerto Rico (implicating IRC §933) stand to benefit tremendously. Revisions to these Acts in 2017 arguably made Puerto Rico an unmatched tax haven for qualifying U.S. citizens. Indeed, the news has spread, and a growing number of tax-weary U.S. citizens are considering Puerto Rico as their solution.

Bona Fide Resident

The tax benefits under Act 20 and 22 are very attractive for those U.S. citizens willing to become a bona fine resident of Puerto Rico. Although U.S. citizens are subject to worldwide taxation, from whatever source derived, IRC §933 provides an exception for residents of Puerto Rico. Under that section,bona fideresidents of Puerto Rico can exclude their Puerto Rico source income from U.S. federal tax. Generally, under IRS §937 and the regulations thereunder, a bona fide resident of Puerto Rico is an individual who:

  1. Is physically present in Puerto Rico for at least 183 days during the taxable year;
  2. Does not have a tax home outside of Puerto Rico during the taxable year; and
  3. Does not have a closer connection to the United States or a foreign country than to Puerto Rico.
Act 20

Act 20 provides incentives to companies exporting services from Puerto Rico. Specifically, a U.S. citizen who becomes a bona fide Puerto Rico resident and moves his or her business to Puerto Rico (thus, generating Puerto Rico sourced income) may benefit from a 4% corporate tax/fixed income tax rate, a 100% exemption on property taxes, and a 100% exemption on dividends from export services.2Act 20 applies to any entity engaged in an “eligible service”:

  • Which has a bona fide office located in Puerto Rico,
  • Performs services for non-resident and/or foreign entities without any nexus to Puerto Rico, and
  • Which ensures that the eligible service provided is not related to the conduct of a trade, business or other activity in Puerto Rico.
Services that are eligible for these incentives include:

  • Research and development.
  • Advertising and public relations.
  • Economic, environmental, technological, scientific, managerial, marketing, human resources, computer, and auditing consulting services.
  • Advise on issues related to any trade or business.
  • Creative Industries defined by law as those business with potential for creating jobs and wealth, mainly through the export of creative goods and services in the following sectors: design (graphic, industrial, fashion, and interior design); arts (music, visual arts, performing arts, and publishing); media (application, video games, online media, digital, and multimedia content development); creative services (architecture and creative education).
  • Drafting of construction plans and engineering, architectural, and project management services.
  • Professional services, such as legal, tax and accounting services.
  • Centralized management services.
  • Electronic data processing centers.
  • Computer program development.
  • Voice and data telecommunications between persons located outside Puerto Rico.
  • Call centers.
  • Shared service centers that include, but are not limited to accounting, finance, tax, auditing, marketing, engineering, quality control, human resources, communications, electronic data processing, and other centralized management services.
  • Storage and distribution centers of companies engaged in the business of transportation of items and products that belong to third parties, known as “hubs”.
  • Hospitals and laboratory services.
  • Investment banking and other financial services.
  • Any other service that the Secretary, with the advice of the Secretary of the Treasury, determines that must be treated as an eligible service for understanding that it is in the best interest and for the social and economic wellbeing of Puerto Rico.
 
If you’re a heavy player in the PR swag business you’re making a killing. They love to let everyone visually know they’re Puerto Rican by slapping their flag on EVERYTHING.
I’m positive there’s tampons wrapped up in PR flag packaging.
 
Is that what the Declaration of Independence says?

The Mafioso version of the Union is a curious political position.
No, but the Supreme Court did back when Texas sued to be able to secede. Texas lost. But you are right I guess. This new Supreme Court doesn't give a rats ass about historical precedent or anything like that and I'm sure they would be open to the idea of letting states just leave the Union. At least, if that's what the heritage foundation wanted.

 
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