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Somehow fans that weren't vaccinated packing into stadiums in September is the reason that Covid is spreading now according to Torbee and Joe.
I got that much. It's the rest of the breakdown that seems needlessly complicated mixed in with a lot of statistical magic.
Why would anyone need to bring higher public awareness to Vitamin D deficiency when you told us(with no data) that most people don't have a deficiency?This is what is most bothersome to me, not just about the "news" following being given to this "non-breakthrough study".
That the study itself seems to be simply a propaganda play.
They admit within the study that they ONLY compared Vitamin-D deficient patients, NOT ALL patients.
So:
- Why is that not reflected, explicitly, in the title?
- Why is it not even mentioned within the abstract?
Any editor worth his salt would reject this paper without those clear additions being included, to avoid misleading people on a topic that has already been well understood for more than a year.
The only conclusion I can draw from this, is that this is simply a propaganda play, to make Covid appear much less concerning, and that "Vitamin D is the cure" to folks who are unaware of the context and details. Either to do so within their own country (where perhaps civil unrest from Covid is creating problems), or more broadly, on social media.
I can understand politically motivated 'sites' being taken in by this nonsense. But it's unfortunate to have actual journals and their editorial staff taken in. There doesn't appear to be anything "wrong" with the work they did here; just that it's being oversold and misrepresented to people who won't know any better. E.g. 100% of the folks who called me out in the thread.
And if the point is to make Vitamin D deficiency something to bring higher public awareness to, that could easily have also been a main focus.
Why would anyone need to bring higher public awareness to Vitamin D deficiency when you told us(with no data) that most people don't have a deficiency?
Nobody is saying it is a cure Joe. People are wondering why it hasn't been pushed a little more by our public officials as part of the 'tool in the toolboox' to combat Covid. Instead our tools consist of 'stay locked up in your house' and 'wear a piece of cloth over your face.'
A pre-existing condition that can be fixed very easily, yet very little from our public officials on the benefits.Still trying to work an angle to make you feel better about your stupid post.
Covid can impact people with preexisting conditions and I know that's been well known. Vitamin D deficiency is technically a preexisting condition that needs to be fixed for a number of reasons, not just Covid. If you walked in the hospital and had a different deficiency, the doctors would address those as well.
Why would anyone need to bring higher public awareness to Vitamin D deficiency when you told us(with no data) that most people don't have a deficiency?
It is precisely what your original post was trying to convey.Nobody is saying it is a cure Joe.
Why would anyone need to bring higher public awareness to Vitamin D deficiency when you told us(with no data) that most people don't have a deficiency?
Nobody is saying it is a cure Joe. People are wondering why it hasn't been pushed a little more by our public officials as part of the 'tool in the toolboox' to combat Covid. Instead our tools consist of 'stay locked up in your house' and 'wear a piece of cloth over your face.'
Nope should be at the top of the list but for some reason Team Blue says we have to keep masking and even possibly locking down in the future again, even with vaccines.Did you forget the highly effective vaccines in the tool box or is that not Team Red approved?
How embarrassing was your dad? He loved to show his stupid on here and that passed onto you.
Nope should be at the top of the list but for some reason Team Blue says we have to keep masking and even possibly locking down in the future again, even with vaccines.
How embarrassing was your dad? He loved to show his stupid on here and that passed onto you.
HROT needs more of this and less of 99% other stuff in this thread. HROT is sorely in need of a rank 'em. I will oblige.OP's mom is a big fan of Vitamin D. She takes it for everything.
You've tried that line on me before. It sucks. You suck. Your dad really sucked.Looks like another POS on my shoe. Scraping you off. Have a great day.
A pre-existing condition that can be fixed very easily, yet very little from our public officials on the benefits.
Don’t put words in my mouth twatwaffle. I went to every single home game at Kinnick.Somehow fans that weren't vaccinated packing into stadiums in September is the reason that Covid is spreading now according to Torbee and Joe.
I saw an article recently that described Vitamin D as a pandemic.always go to the score card.
42% of Americans are vitamin D deficient
90% of African Americans are also
A high percentage of hospitalized Americans with Covid 19 were also
I’m shocked that Kimmie isn’t plugging this to help Iowa’s dairy farmers.How much can I sell a cocktail of Vitamin D, Bleach and ivermectin? That surely will cure covid.
Rates are up. Hospitalizations are up. Deaths are up.U might wanna check what Iowa's hospitalization rates are looking like...
I don't wanna be a dick, but this is the first post I've seen over here. If you're actually family med, why are you screening for this? What's your patient population? It makes a bit more sense for an internist (like myself) who mainly sees elderly adults. Although admittedly I'm a hospitalist who does no outpatient medicine.
We don't reqlly know the "average" vitamin d level, we just assume >30 is fine. There's been few reports of actual toxicity. I think it's fine to advocate for 2000 units daily for your patients (especially in winter in the Midwest), but I question the thinking behind 50K units (I'm assuming this is a weekly dose)
Or, if you haven’t figured it out, this virus is seasonal and there really is nothing that mitigation tactics are going to do to stop it.Rates are up. Hospitalizations are up. Deaths are up.
A lot of people are making bad choices, apparently.
Or, if you haven’t figured it out, this virus is seasonal and there really is nothing that mitigation tactics are going to do to stop it.
I mean South Korea is highly vaccinated, have been very strict with mitigation policies and had a record amount of cases today.
Or, if you haven’t figured it out, this virus is seasonal and there really is nothing that mitigation tactics are going to do to stop it.
I mean South Korea is highly vaccinated, have been very strict with mitigation policies and had a record amount of cases today. Your narrative has been wrong this entire time but because of Team Blue politics you continue to live in an alternate universe.
I don't think vitamin d alone makes a huge difference on covid. but vitamin d has a correlation with serum sodium and I think this is the real key.I've read through the actual setup and still can't figure out exactly what they did or why they broke groups down as they did. Low patient numbers in a single location, no comorbidities in some groups but not others, Not a strong study, for sure.
I've heard this before and fortunately I've been taking 5000 IUs of vitamin forever and my levels are really good. I'm vaxed too...wonder if that's helped me not get the COVIDs because I have actually been around folks with it on more than one occassion.
Lol another patented deflection by Joe.The "Vitamin D" topic here?
Nothing.
You and your buds are changing the subject.
Where?Joes Place downplays how many people actually have a deficiency.
You accused me of changing the topic here.Lol another patented deflection by Joe.
Per this article: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-deficiency-symptoms#_noHeaderPrefixedContentThere's a compelling demographic correlation between Vitamin D deficiency and COVID deaths. While Joes Place got on board with Vitamin D at some point, he's right that it really only helps where there's a deficiency. Joes Place downplays how many people actually have a deficiency. That deficiency is more common in people having darker skin, and older people. Vitamin D, along with Zinc, inhibit virus replication in blood cells. There's a point in the virus replication process where it's too late for either to be an effective treatment.
And that review cited was 10 years old. The widespread deficiency will continue to grow because of our modern lifestyles.Per this article: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d-deficiency-symptoms#_noHeaderPrefixedContent
According to one review, 41.6% of adults in the United States are deficient. This number goes up to 69.2% in Hispanic adults and 82.1% in African American adults.
Not sure what the current #s are, but perhaps Joe can link to a source that shows the current or a more recent stats that he is going off. Even if he accepted the #s from the article I provided, he was technically correct with most adults not being vitamin D deficient since it has 41.6 % being deficient. Seems to me that is still a pretty large percentage than what I am assuming he was saying although he didn't provide an exact #, it seems to me his language that that it was 25% or less that were Vitamin D deficient.And that review cited was 10 years old. The widespread deficiency will continue to grow because of our modern lifestyles.
Well, if you can't trust a tweet by the esteemed IM, I don't know who you can trust anymore.Or, if you haven’t figured it out, this virus is seasonal and there really is nothing that mitigation tactics are going to do to stop it.
I mean South Korea is highly vaccinated, have been very strict with mitigation policies and had a record amount of cases today. Your narrative has been wrong this entire time but because of Team Blue politics you continue to live in an alternate universe.
The graph IM used was data from the World Health Organization. Is that a good enough source for ya?Well, if you can't trust a tweet by the esteemed IM, I don't know who you can trust anymore.