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Walker Continues His Assault on the UW System

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Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who began building a national profile four years ago by sharply cutting collective bargaining rights for most government workers, has turned his sights to a different element of the public sector: state universities.

As Mr. Walker takes steps toward announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination, he and leaders in Wisconsin’s Republican-held Legislature have called for changes that would give a board largely picked by the governor far more control over tenure and curriculum in the University of Wisconsin System.

Critics said the proposal, which is championed by Republicans in the Legislature, would burnish Mr. Walker’s conservative credentials as he is scrutinized by likely primary voters.

As a new and unknown governor in 2011, Mr. Walker quickly drew national attention by announcing legislation to limit collective bargaining rights for most public-sector unions and require workers to pay more for their health care and pensions.

He followed that battle — which included surviving a recall effort — by signing other measures that attracted notice from conservatives nationally: new limits on early voting, the expansion of school vouchers and, this year, legislation barring unions from requiring employees in private workplaces to pay the equivalent of union dues.

Republicans say the new proposal will give university leaders more autonomy and encourage savings and efficiency at a moment when the state is aiming to cut spending to balance its budget. But the plan has caused professors to express alarm.

“It’ll be impossible for us to attract and retain people if we’re the only one that has such a weak protection of tenure,” said Donald Moynihan, a professor of public affairs at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who has been at the institution for 10 years and was among hundreds of faculty members in recent days to sign a letter opposing the changes.

A committee of lawmakers last week approved along party lines a proposal that would remove the notion of tenure in the university system from state statute, leaving the sensitive matter to the state’s Board of Regents, which oversees the system’s 13 four-year universities and some 180,000 students.

Under the proposal, the board’s 18 members — 16 of whom are appointed by the governor subject to the confirmation of the State Senate — would be permitted to set a standard by which they could fire a tenured faculty member “when such an action is deemed necessary due to a budget or program decision requiring program discontinuance, curtailment, modification or redirection,” not only in the case of just cause or a financial emergency, as permitted previously. Critics deemed it tenure with no actual promise of tenure.

“The reality is that we are not eliminating tenure,” said Senator Sheila Harsdorf, a Republican, adding that she believed the effort had been misunderstood as a broad condemnation of tenure.

Wisconsin is rare for including tenure provisions for professors in its statutes rather than in policies set by regents or similar boards. “We are directing the Board of Regents to develop a policy, just as there is in so many states,” Ms. Harsdorf said. “It’s just a matter of recognizing the ability for chancellors and campuses to administer and manage their operations.”

Along with tenure, “shared governance” has been a central feature of academic life in universities generally, giving faculty members the primary responsibility for decisions about matters like curriculum, choice of subject matter, instructional methods, faculty status and research. Under the proposed changes in Wisconsin, faculty members would still advise leaders on academic and educational activities, and on personnel matters, but that advice would be “subordinate” to the powers of the board, president and chancellors.

All of the changes still require a vote by the state’s full Senate and House. The proposal is expected to come to the full chambers later this month as part of the state’s budget for the next two years.

Education experts are calling the proposal significant.

“This is monumental in my opinion,” said Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. “My reading of the changes suggests that whatever the Board of Regents adopts as its policy on tenure and shared governance can’t possibly be as robust as what has been on the books thus far.”

Mr. Walker has called for still more sweeping changes to the state university system. As part of his budget proposal in February, the governor said he wanted to shift the entire university system out from under direct state oversight. He called for the creation of a “quasi-governmental” authority that could act on its own on issues of personnel, purchasing, capital projects and tuition. He also wanted to cut state spending on the system by about $300 million, or 13 percent, as part of his answer to an anticipated budget shortfall.

Wisconsin has hardly been the only place where public universities have struggled in relationships with their states, and leaders elsewhere have been closely watching the events unfold in Wisconsin. As state funding for higher education has dwindled in recent years, public universities in several states have been involved in discussions over cutting, or loosening, their ties with state government, so they would not have to comply with state regulations governing areas like purchasing and construction.

In negotiating over the budget in recent days, Wisconsin lawmakers rejected parts of Mr. Walker’s plan, including the creation of a separate authority to run the university system. They reduced to $250 million the cuts to the system. But they accepted other of his ideas.

A legislative committee voted on Friday to “keep several of the flexibilities Governor Walker originally proposed, including the specific proposal regarding tenure,” said Laurel Patrick, Mr. Walker’s spokeswoman, adding that Mr. Walker’s law limiting public-sector unions in 2011 had also eliminated tenure requirements in the school system. “Today, graduation rates are up, third-grade reading scores are up, and A.C.T. scores are second-best in the country.”

For years, Mr. Walker has been interested in changing the structure of the state’s public university system. Mr. Walker, who did not complete college and has a son who attends the Madison campus, is expected to announce his presidential run shortly after the state’s budget is approved.
On Thursday, some leaders of the Board of Regents, meeting in Milwaukee, said the board was committed to tenure, and had already planned a task force to examine how to proceed if the proposals are enacted.

“We are as a board and always have been and always will be supportive of tenure,” Regina Millner, the regents’ vice president, said in an interview. “Our commitment to tenure, our commitment to academic freedom, our commitment to a strong faculty with secure support for the work they do, it’s absolute.”

Yet in academic circles nationwide, there was concern this week that the proposed changes in Wisconsin could bolster the forces pushing universities to operate more like businesses, eliminating departments or courses that do not attract many students or much research money.

“Increasingly, the excuse of financial difficulty has been used as a reason to overpower the faculty, with a lot of people in administration saying we need to be flexible,” said Henry Reichman, vice president of the American Association of University Professors. “If you just took the Wisconsin language on eliminating tenure, and moved it from the statute into board policy, you could argue that there would be no problem. But the shared governance change seems to undermine the whole structure.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news
 
Move toward accomplishing a right wing wet dream: they want to hire conservative professors and they have a ton of non Wisconsin money backing them. Elections have consequences.
 
Funny, the Times headline doesn't say anything about an assault on the UW system - someone must have made that up all by themselves. Of course, it's the wrong spin. Removing the tenure provision from statute and returning tenure to the province of the Board of Regents, as it is in most states, won't damage the system at all. In fact, there's a very good argument to be made that it will help the system survive and thrive.

Kind of a non-story, imo. We need to have some level of accountability in our university systems, and it makes sense to have it under the perview of the state's Board of Regents.
 
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Funny, the Times headline doesn't say anything about an assault on the UW system - someone must have made that up all by themselves. Of course, it's the wrong spin. Removing the tenure provision from statute and returning tenure to the province of the Board of Regents, as it is in most states, won't damage the system at all. In fact, there's a very good argument to be made that it will help the system survive and thrive.

Kind of a non-story, imo. We need to have some level of accountability in our university systems, and it makes sense to have it under the perview of the state's Board of Regents.
Walker is the best thing that's happened to the Wisconsin education system in a long, long time......assuming you think students, parents and the public should be the primary concern, not the teachers' unions.
 
It's hard to know who is more dangerous, Walker or some of the deranged religious zealots the GOP is putting up. Probably Walker.

Everybody else on the right talks trash about government and unions and universities and so on. Walker actually attacks those valuable institutions of democracy and the middle class. After 30+ years of relentless right wing propaganda, way too many Americans either believe the attacks or lack the intellectual tools to subject them to the criticism and ridicule they deserve.
 
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It's hard to know who is more dangerous, Walker or some of the deranged religious zealots the GOP is putting up. Probably Walker.

Everybody else on the right talks trash about government and unions and universities and so on. Walker actually attacks those valuable institutions of democracy and the middle class. After 30+ years of relentless right wing propaganda, way too many Americans either believe the attacks or lack the intellectual tools to subject them to the criticism and ridicule they deserve.
Look into Walker closer. He is one of the deranged religious zealots.

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/christianityfortherestofus/2011/02/god-in-wisconsin-scott-walkers-obedience.html

Think about this bit:
"In fact, church members believe that everything in the Bible is literally true and "without error" and that Christ's return (and the ensuing Apocalypse) is "imminent."

They also speak in tongues. If you're not familiar with speaking in tongues, it’s when God supposedly speaks through a person. But God apparently doesn't speak any of the human languages, so it all comes out as gibberish. Luckily, if a trained man of God is nearby, he can translate it all for you."

http://www.progressive.org/news/2015/02/188013/speaking-tongues-just-part-fun-scott-walkers-church
 
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Look into Walker closer. He is one of the deranged religious zealots.

http://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/christianityfortherestofus/2011/02/god-in-wisconsin-scott-walkers-obedience.html

Think about this bit:
"In fact, church members believe that everything in the Bible is literally true and "without error" and that Christ's return (and the ensuing Apocalypse) is "imminent."

They also speak in tongues. If you're not familiar with speaking in tongues, it’s when God supposedly speaks through a person. But God apparently doesn't speak any of the human languages, so it all comes out as gibberish. Luckily, if a trained man of God is nearby, he can translate it all for you."

http://www.progressive.org/news/2015/02/188013/speaking-tongues-just-part-fun-scott-walkers-church
Oh great.
 
Walker has won three statewide elections. I guess the majority think he is doing alright. I know my friends who lived there and make enough money to pay taxes support him.
 
A lot of my Wisconsin friends mocked Nebraska for not being an AAU member when they joined the conference.

It will be amusing to hear their cries of anguish when UW gets the boot.

By the time Walker is done, Wisconsin will be on par with Arizona State academically.

Look who's here! It's the Scott Walker expert of HROT! Got any new made up BS to tell us about Walker today?
 
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Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, who began building a national profile four years ago by sharply cutting collective bargaining rights for most government workers, has turned his sights to a different element of the public sector: state universities.

As Mr. Walker takes steps toward announcing his candidacy for the Republican presidential nomination, he and leaders in Wisconsin’s Republican-held Legislature have called for changes that would give a board largely picked by the governor far more control over tenure and curriculum in the University of Wisconsin System.

Critics said the proposal, which is championed by Republicans in the Legislature, would burnish Mr. Walker’s conservative credentials as he is scrutinized by likely primary voters.

As a new and unknown governor in 2011, Mr. Walker quickly drew national attention by announcing legislation to limit collective bargaining rights for most public-sector unions and require workers to pay more for their health care and pensions.

He followed that battle — which included surviving a recall effort — by signing other measures that attracted notice from conservatives nationally: new limits on early voting, the expansion of school vouchers and, this year, legislation barring unions from requiring employees in private workplaces to pay the equivalent of union dues.

Republicans say the new proposal will give university leaders more autonomy and encourage savings and efficiency at a moment when the state is aiming to cut spending to balance its budget. But the plan has caused professors to express alarm.

“It’ll be impossible for us to attract and retain people if we’re the only one that has such a weak protection of tenure,” said Donald Moynihan, a professor of public affairs at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, who has been at the institution for 10 years and was among hundreds of faculty members in recent days to sign a letter opposing the changes.

A committee of lawmakers last week approved along party lines a proposal that would remove the notion of tenure in the university system from state statute, leaving the sensitive matter to the state’s Board of Regents, which oversees the system’s 13 four-year universities and some 180,000 students.

Under the proposal, the board’s 18 members — 16 of whom are appointed by the governor subject to the confirmation of the State Senate — would be permitted to set a standard by which they could fire a tenured faculty member “when such an action is deemed necessary due to a budget or program decision requiring program discontinuance, curtailment, modification or redirection,” not only in the case of just cause or a financial emergency, as permitted previously. Critics deemed it tenure with no actual promise of tenure.

“The reality is that we are not eliminating tenure,” said Senator Sheila Harsdorf, a Republican, adding that she believed the effort had been misunderstood as a broad condemnation of tenure.

Wisconsin is rare for including tenure provisions for professors in its statutes rather than in policies set by regents or similar boards. “We are directing the Board of Regents to develop a policy, just as there is in so many states,” Ms. Harsdorf said. “It’s just a matter of recognizing the ability for chancellors and campuses to administer and manage their operations.”

Along with tenure, “shared governance” has been a central feature of academic life in universities generally, giving faculty members the primary responsibility for decisions about matters like curriculum, choice of subject matter, instructional methods, faculty status and research. Under the proposed changes in Wisconsin, faculty members would still advise leaders on academic and educational activities, and on personnel matters, but that advice would be “subordinate” to the powers of the board, president and chancellors.

All of the changes still require a vote by the state’s full Senate and House. The proposal is expected to come to the full chambers later this month as part of the state’s budget for the next two years.

Education experts are calling the proposal significant.

“This is monumental in my opinion,” said Barmak Nassirian, director of federal relations and policy analysis at the American Association of State Colleges and Universities. “My reading of the changes suggests that whatever the Board of Regents adopts as its policy on tenure and shared governance can’t possibly be as robust as what has been on the books thus far.”

Mr. Walker has called for still more sweeping changes to the state university system. As part of his budget proposal in February, the governor said he wanted to shift the entire university system out from under direct state oversight. He called for the creation of a “quasi-governmental” authority that could act on its own on issues of personnel, purchasing, capital projects and tuition. He also wanted to cut state spending on the system by about $300 million, or 13 percent, as part of his answer to an anticipated budget shortfall.

Wisconsin has hardly been the only place where public universities have struggled in relationships with their states, and leaders elsewhere have been closely watching the events unfold in Wisconsin. As state funding for higher education has dwindled in recent years, public universities in several states have been involved in discussions over cutting, or loosening, their ties with state government, so they would not have to comply with state regulations governing areas like purchasing and construction.

In negotiating over the budget in recent days, Wisconsin lawmakers rejected parts of Mr. Walker’s plan, including the creation of a separate authority to run the university system. They reduced to $250 million the cuts to the system. But they accepted other of his ideas.

A legislative committee voted on Friday to “keep several of the flexibilities Governor Walker originally proposed, including the specific proposal regarding tenure,” said Laurel Patrick, Mr. Walker’s spokeswoman, adding that Mr. Walker’s law limiting public-sector unions in 2011 had also eliminated tenure requirements in the school system. “Today, graduation rates are up, third-grade reading scores are up, and A.C.T. scores are second-best in the country.”

For years, Mr. Walker has been interested in changing the structure of the state’s public university system. Mr. Walker, who did not complete college and has a son who attends the Madison campus, is expected to announce his presidential run shortly after the state’s budget is approved.
On Thursday, some leaders of the Board of Regents, meeting in Milwaukee, said the board was committed to tenure, and had already planned a task force to examine how to proceed if the proposals are enacted.

“We are as a board and always have been and always will be supportive of tenure,” Regina Millner, the regents’ vice president, said in an interview. “Our commitment to tenure, our commitment to academic freedom, our commitment to a strong faculty with secure support for the work they do, it’s absolute.”

Yet in academic circles nationwide, there was concern this week that the proposed changes in Wisconsin could bolster the forces pushing universities to operate more like businesses, eliminating departments or courses that do not attract many students or much research money.

“Increasingly, the excuse of financial difficulty has been used as a reason to overpower the faculty, with a lot of people in administration saying we need to be flexible,” said Henry Reichman, vice president of the American Association of University Professors. “If you just took the Wisconsin language on eliminating tenure, and moved it from the statute into board policy, you could argue that there would be no problem. But the shared governance change seems to undermine the whole structure.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/05/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news


Yes, because the UW and liberal agenda have done a wonderful job reigning in skyrocketing tuition costs and making higher education affordable for low and middle class families. Oh wait .,,
 
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Mrs. LC went to a gathering at which he was featured today. She said he never once brought up ruining the Wisconsin education system.
 
I just hope they find this guy next time Walker wins something. Funniest thing I've ever seen on tv. DEMOCRACY DIED TONIGHT!

 
I can only hope Bruce Rauner has as much success in Illinois as Walker has had in Wisconsin.

Thankfully the Illinois University system isn't quite as bloated and wasteful as "The University of Wisconsin (insert random Wisconsin town name here)" system is.

Wisconsin has a couple excellent state Universities and a bunch of redundant satellites.

Iowa would be broke too if they didn't have a sensible state University structure.
 
LOL...yeah Walker's all about fiscal responsibility.

Well...except for his plan to provide for $250 million in tax revenue for a new arena in Milwaukee. Interestingly, the cut in UW's budget would total $250-$300 million over the next two years.
 
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LOL...yeah Walker's all about fiscal responsibility.

Well...except for his plan to provide for $250 million in tax revenue for a new arena in Milwaukee. Interestingly, the cut in UW's budget would total $250-$300 million over the next two years.
Sounds like a good deal to me.
 
I can only hope Bruce Rauner has as much success in Illinois as Walker has had in Wisconsin.

Thankfully the Illinois University system isn't quite as bloated and wasteful as "The University of Wisconsin (insert random Wisconsin town name here)" system is.

Wisconsin has a couple excellent state Universities and a bunch of redundant satellites.

Iowa would be broke too if they didn't have a sensible state University structure.
If Iowa really wanted to be sensibly they would steal a page from Wisconsin and turn ISU and UNI into satellites of one University of Iowa system. That move would make me like Branstad too.
 
LOL...yeah Walker's all about fiscal responsibility.

Well...except for his plan to provide for $250 million in tax revenue for a new arena in Milwaukee. Interestingly, the cut in UW's budget would total $250-$300 million over the next two years.

He is also pushing to borrow $1.3 billion for road/transportation improvements.
 
If Iowa really wanted to be sensibly they would steal a page from Wisconsin and turn ISU and UNI into satellites of one University of Iowa system. That move would make me like Branstad too.

I could agree with that.

If Wisconsin was sensible they would only have 3 State Universities like Iowa. Which is where the Walker vision is heading.

So, I agree with you and Walker. A hybrid between the two systems would make perfect sense.
 
LOL...yeah Walker's all about fiscal responsibility.

Well...except for his plan to provide for $250 million in tax revenue for a new arena in Milwaukee. Interestingly, the cut in UW's budget would total $250-$300 million over the next two years.
Weren't there also tax cuts for the well-off paid for by cuts to the public sector, and public sector workers, in particular?
 
Is it really any wonder why a state the size of Wisconsin can't afford this?

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Iowa's system is not so great. Why do we need 3 separate full service universities? Why was UNI ever allowed to be more than a teachers college and why does ISU have anything but sciences? Its too late now and Iowa is no model for anyone.
 
Iowa's system is not so great. Why do we need 3 separate full service universities? Why was UNI ever allowed to be more than a teachers college and why does ISU have anything but sciences? Its too late now and Iowa is no model for anyone.

I don't disagree. But, we can afford 3.(for the most part)

Wisconsin is trying to maintain 26.
 
Iowa's system is not so great. Why do we need 3 separate full service universities? Why was UNI ever allowed to be more than a teachers college and why does ISU have anything but sciences? Its too late now and Iowa is no model for anyone.
Why does Iowa have an engineering school? Why does Iowa do agricultural research?

Duplication has long been an area of criticism. Unfortunately, some people have the idea that if a program is offered at SUI and one of the other schools, the only way to end duplication is to end the program at the other schools.

When Marvin Pomerantz -- huge SUI donor/booster -- was chairman of the Regents under the first Branstad regime, they were trying to downgrade UNI and ISU in the way some of suggested here. They managed to get rid of WOI. They were unsuccessful in killing the ISU journalism program -- which is considerably larger and by virtually all standards, better, than the SUI journalism program, despite the latter's proud history.

Now we're seeing the Iowa grads in the Legislature balking at restructuring a funding system that virtually everybody agrees needs to be changed.
 
LOL. How stupid can you get, thinking this map proves your point. How does this even make sense?

Why are you calling names?

I figured even the wackiest of Liberals could see that their university system doesn't make dollars and cents/or sense.
 
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Why are you calling names?

I figured even the wackiest of Liberals could see that their university system doesn't make dollars and cents/or sense.
You're the guy posting maps that don't prove your point. Own it. Or try to explain how it proves your point. That should be good for laughs.
 
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