What's amazing is that so many Americans are thoughtful enough to see past your side's attack machine to enjoy and get value from MM's body of work.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
I saw it's another Michael Moore film, and that was enough. Amazing that some of you people still grant him credibility.
I think if you were truly familiar with Moore's work, even you would not defend him, Parser. He's not just a propagandist. He's incredibly dishonest.Originally posted by What Would Jesus Do?:
What's amazing is that so many Americans are thoughtful enough to see past your side's attack machine to enjoy and get value from MM's body of work.Originally posted by Lone Clone:
I saw it's another Michael Moore film, and that was enough. Amazing that some of you people still grant him credibility.
That, by the way, includes some high-functioning conservatives - which apparently doesn't include you. Sad.
People who watch this stuff aren't "intelligent" by any stretch of the imagination.Originally posted by DanHawkPella:
What a pile of steaming crap that was. Only lemmings like WWJD would buy into that without a critical thought about it.
Both sides have had plenty of "politics" that aren't in the country's best interest, so lets stop pretending that Michael Moore is good at determining cause and effect (the bias is so think its palpable), and that only one side is responsible for the mess we're in.
A couple of factors causing a bifurcated economic class include increased divorce rates and the global economy (which hurts blue collar workers more than white collar). President Clinton signed NAFTA, and was presiding during the period when we started to loosen our mortgage rate standards which precipitated the housing crisis the the ensuing financial crisis and recession (not the only cause, but the beginning - see household ownership below to see the starting point).
Nothing will get fixed if people continue to put videos together like this and then have their street urchins like this market for them. I don't care for it when conservatives on this board do the same thing. It is not productive. People like Moore are like crack dealers selling stuff like this to their street corner dealers who happen to be addicted themselves. Total crap.
Try to stay on topic for a change. This was about Reagan (for the most part). Throwing up Clinton's failures and his capitulation to neoliberal forces as some sort of correction of bias is stupid. I happen to agree with those criticisms of Clinton and have raised them here MANY times, sometimes earning me disapproval from my fellow lefties. But, you see, that doesn't alter the criticisms of Reagan one whit.Originally posted by DanHawkPella:
What a pile of steaming crap that was. Only lemmings would buy into that without a critical thought about it.
Both sides have had plenty of "politics" that aren't in the country's best interest, so lets stop pretending that Michael Moore is good at determining cause and effect (the bias is so think its palpable), and that only one side is responsible for the mess we're in.
A couple of factors causing a bifurcated economic class include increased divorce rates and the global economy (which hurts blue collar workers more than white collar). President Clinton signed NAFTA, and was presiding during the period when we started to loosen our mortgage rate standards which precipitated the housing crisis the the ensuing financial crisis and recession (not the only cause, but the beginning - see household ownership below to see the starting point).
Nothing will get fixed if people continue to put videos together like this and then have their street urchins like this market for them. I don't care for it when conservatives on this board do the same thing. It is not productive. People like Moore are like crack dealers selling stuff like this to their street corner dealers who happen to be addicted themselves. Total crap.