Watch: Target Store Manager Confirms to Man He Can Use Women’s Bathroom
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Are you willing to put that thought process towards guns?
For me it's more about where this leads. The examples of dorms and locker rooms becoming unisex is what's scary.
Single stall bathrooms are the endgame for me. Target doesn't need a room with 10 urinals and 10 crappers. If I walked in and it was anywhere near capacity I would turn 360 degrees and walk away.
Exactly, that's why this whole discussion is ridiculous. The ONLY thing this discussion has accomplished, is opening the door for people to abuse the privilege because they can (meaning regular men in womens bathroom, and women making the mens line move slower at stadiums...). Oh, and it's served to further divide the country.
Who started this discussion anyway? They are to blame.
THIS IS GOLD!!! Let me know how turning 360 degrees and walking away goes.
Here's some breaking news: perverts have been caught filming in women's rooms decades before this law passed. Your example has nothing to do with transgendered and everything to do with criminals. Prosecute the criminals and stop persecuting those who don't deserve it.
What if your son doesn't FEEL comfortable going to church because he might get molested. I'm going to guess that's about 1,000x more likely than ever even sharing a bathroom with a transgender. Where's your conservative outrage at that?
I'm not sure. How is it you Libs rank feelings?
Trans feelings win out over all women in this example.
Are women's feelings only worth like 3/5's of a Trans feelings?
Why does anyone have to lose? The only real losers are bigots who worry far too much about someone else's private parts.
You're right that it has nothing to do with transgendered. That's exactly the point I've been making. It's nice that one of you guys finally figured that out, even if you had to stumble ass backwards into the point. By allowing All men, not just transgendered, to use whichever bathroom they want to use we are creating potentially dangerous situations. Yes, perverts have been trying to film girls showering since the advent of videotape. But by allowing them to stroll unabated into the women's room you are putting them one huge step closer to their goal. Instead of trying to keep the fox out of the henhouse you are letting the fox waltz right in and hoping he leaves the chickens alone.
Would you send your 12 year old daughter into a female bathroom right after seeing a 40 year old man (transgender) go in?
Do you anticipate that allowing everyone (not just transgenders) to use the restroom of their choice rather than nominally restricting access will result in fewer perv incidents, more perv incidents, or about the same number of perv incidents? And if removing restrictions on bathroom choice happens to result in an increase in sexual assaults, illicit video recordings, and other perv activities do you believe that's a reasonable trade for making transgenders feel a little better about themselves?
No snarky insults this time.
A 40 year old transgender man believes he should be a woman and is likely doing everything he can to present himself as such. Thus, this 40 year old man would present himself as a 40 year old woman, making it fairly unlikely you would be able to tell his actual gender with 100% certainty.
Furthermore, this 40 year old transgender man would like for nothing more than to NOT be noticed other than as just another woman shopping.
Your 12 year old daughter is in no more harms way in the bathroom with a 40 year old transgender man than she would be with a 40 year old straight as an arrow woman.
Now, if you want to talk about some truly dangerous people let's look at some high profile examples: wrestling coach turned conservative politician, college football coach, roughly 3400 Catholic priests, not to mention the various ministers, teachers, daycare workers, and just generally speaking bad people.
Transgenders have been using public bathrooms of the gender to which they identify for a long time with nobody the wiser and without strong arm tactics are likely to continue to do so with no more incidents than have occurred in the past.
If you want to get into the question regarding transgenders use of locker rooms, 'group' showers, etc., I think there are points that can be made. But, I also think that's for a discussion beyond that of public restrooms in stores and malls and such.
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You'd have to provide evidence that this would be a reasonable concern.
The point that you're not getting is that transgenders have ALREADY been using the bathroom of their choice for as long as there have been public men and women bathrooms.
By that argument you could say that women's rooms are now safer for girls because there might be a transgender who was originally a 6' 5" man in there protecting it from pedophiles. This example is no more ridiculous or hypothetical than yours.
If women and girls start getting assaulted in public restrooms will that constitute reasonable concern? Do we simply brush it off and tell the victims and their families that it could have happened just as easily if bathrooms were still separated by gender? How many victims are acceptable? 100? 1000? Is there a number at which we reevaluate the whole concept?
If they have been using the bathroom of their choice all this time then why is there suddenly a need to change our laws and policies? Why is it that anyone who opposes these changes is a knuckle-dragging bigot? The point that you're still not getting is that my primary concern isn't the transgenders. My main concern is all the men who are now being given license to walk unabated into women's restrooms.
And if remains at zero how long will you keep complaining?
Men will still use the men's room. Criminals will still commit crimes. Neither one of these things has anything to do with transgendered.
No, yours is more ridiculous.
I'm pretty confident that you have been in public bathrooms with at least one transgender.
I'm also pretty confident your children have been in a public bathroom with at least one transgender.
I'm pretty sure your parents and quite possibly your grandparents have/had been in public bathrooms with at least one transgender.
Your argument that somehow having a bathroom attendant check the genitalia of all potential bathroom users prior to usage will all of a sudden eliminate the surge of cross-dressing molesters is beyond ridiculous. It is a problem that did not exist.
Jesus, then you better just go hang out in the women's room all day to make sure there's no perverts in there since you're so concerned about it.
Because there is NO REASON TO MAKE IT A LAW. It is a problem that does not exist now, nor did it in the past.
You know what? Child molesters have been around for a long time as well.
You just don't know what you're talking about on this topic. Time for you to STFU.
I've already expressed my disdain for this topic, but then I thought of the correct answer, so here it is.
Transgendered person: Which bathroom should I use?
Everyone: Use the one you're most comfortable in, which should be the one least likely to raise questions about why you're in the bathroom.
This should be implemented everywhere, without the need for any new laws, and any stupid laws that have been put in place in the last 6 weeks should be automatically repealed today. If the transgendered person is still not comfortable in the bathroom, then there is an excellent chance their problem is much larger than where they should go potty, and it would be wise for them to consult a professional.
Transgendered person: Which bathroom should I use?
Everyone: Use the one you're most comfortable in, which should be the one least likely to raise questions about why you're in the bathroom.
This should be implemented everywhere, without the need for any new laws, and any stupid laws that have been put in place in the last 6 weeks should be automatically repealed today. If the transgendered person is still not comfortable in the bathroom, then there is an excellent chance their problem is much larger than where they should go potty, and it would be wise for them to consult a professional.
Men have always had unfettered access to any unlocked door since the beginning of time. You can just walk right in. Nothing is changing that or making that go away.
True but now that doesn't even get you arrested. It doesn't even get the manager to check on the situation.
No doubt some perv with a hidden camera will be waltzing into a women's locker to get his freak on. All in the name of transgendered tolerance.
It all leads to public restrooms being place for sexual pervs and predators to migrate to. People with small children will have to do all their changing at home if they are at swimming pools and other similar places.
There are no known instances of a sexual predator dressing up as women to commit a crime and then using transgender 'friendly' bathroom ordinances as a legal defense.
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Some of you need to learn the difference between Transgender and a cross dresser.
Anyone doing anything unsavory in any bathroom could still certainly get arrested and/or their ass kicked. It's how it's always been and nothing will change that.
So...let me get this straight (no pun intended)...if we force transgendered individuals to use the bathroom of their birth gender, pervs will NOT flock to public restrooms and people WILL allow their children to strip naked in pool changing rooms with adults of the same sex...cuz none of them are pervs?
Have you people ever heard of that old adage about locking your door? I don't know it verbatim, but it goes like this.
Regardless of whether or not you lock your door, there are some people who are going to attempt to rob you. Regardless of whether or not you lock your door, there are some people who won't attempt to rob you at all. Then there are the people who would rob you if you left your door unlocked, but won't bother with it if you lock your door. Those people are the reason you lock your door.
Regardless of whether or not you lock your door, there are some people who are going to attempt to rob you. Regardless of whether or not you lock your door, there are some people who won't attempt to rob you at all. Then there are the people who would rob you if you left your door unlocked, but won't bother with it if you lock your door. Those people are the reason you lock your door.
Precisely. The transgender honestly believes he or she was born with the wrong genitalia and does what he or she can to make him- or herself feel as close to that identity.
There are cross dressers who do so for a variety of reasons, and some of it may be a reaction to potential transsexual feelings. But, by and large, most cross dressers do not wish to be the opposite sex.
1. You're an asshole.
2. Do you live in a state that has one of these laws? If not, I assume that you will be aggressively lobbying your legislature to pass one, and if they don't, I assume that you will move to a state that does have one.
Otherwise you're a shitty parent that doesn't care about your daughter's safety from perverts.
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