Impressive play from Woody in a muttload of minutes!!
Uhl played well off the bench!
We are so lackadaisical.
Uhl played well off the bench!
We are so lackadaisical.
We couldn't hit chit tonight and still won!!!!
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It was definitely not pretty, but it counts as a quality W. FSU has some serious talent on the perimeter, and their interior players are better than I expected.
To be fair, FSU was 1-10 at half from 3. We shot better from 3 than them. Starters played well, good minutes from Uhl.
By the way, I know some of us watched Bacon with Fleming at oak hill and determined he was a volume shooter. I don't know how he finished but at half he doubled any other Seminole's fg attempts.
By the way, I know some of us watched Bacon with Fleming at oak hill and determined he was a volume shooter. I don't know how he finished but at half he doubled any other Seminole's fg attempts.
Gads was he ever a shooter at Oak Hill. Nothing left his hands if it wasn't heading to the hoop. But I think Beasley has the same attitude so It's kind of like guarding three other guys, and only one of them (whichever touches the ball first.). He ended up with 16 shots.
FSU has a great deal of individual talent. I'll bet they could divide up and make a bunch of really good 3 on 3 teams.
True but think about that, how often have we been out shot from 3 by other teams? I know FSU sucks from downtown but Iowa's 3 pt accuracy is far better than at any other time since Alford was there. I hope Dale Jones isn't out too long, he's arguably our best 3 pt threat.
At least half of their 3 attempts were from a full 3 feet behind the line because that's the only way they could get them off. Yes, they missed a few open ones, but 3s are worth more for a reason, they ain't easy.
I sense to much reasoning as to why the game was close in this thread....
Both teams played poorly and neither one is that much better than the other right now. Some are better at elbowing out on rebounds and traveling than the other - is what the game shows any audience.
By seasons end this game would have looked a lot different.
Both teams played poorly and neither one is that much better than the other right now. Some are better at elbowing out on rebounds and traveling than the other - is what the game shows any audience.
By seasons end this game would have looked a lot different.
This to me was a very good win against what I believe will be a for sure tournament team. They were as quick and athletic as any team I can remember. Reminded me of past Louisville teams with their quickness, especially on the defensive side. Good gutty win by our boys.
We are are better shooting team than FSU statistically. Bacon especially is just a frog up and shoot guy with little shot selection. We also executed better on D. They just tried to overwhelm us with their athleticism. I was noticing a strange phenomenon in the second half. Made FGs, made 3pt attempts, and made FTs were identical between the 2 teams until the last couple minutes of OT. But FSU just had more attempts at FGs and 3pters. Iowa has shot much better from 3 all season than FSU. But they got a lot more rbs. Rebounding is where we could really use some improvement. If we would have equalled FSU's rebounding, the game would have been comfortably over in regulation.
Iowa hasn't exactly played the sisters of the poor the last 5 games in Marquette, Dayton, Notre Dame, Wichita State & Florida State...so cant be complaining about the lack of good competition in Non-Conference.
...blew out 2 of them...got behind in 2 of them falling short after comebacks from double digit opponent leads..played a great back & forth game with Florida St (who I consider the best talent of the 5 ... they just don't play very unselfish)...come NCAA tourney FlaSt could be a really good sleeper pick...they got a lot of weapons...if they learn to share...they could be really good.
I actually thought we played pretty good last night...could have made a few more open looks...but held a really talented team to less than 40%..our guys battled on every possession / offense to defense.
In order to win Fran played his vets. Minutes Gesell (40), Uthoff (39), Clemmons (36), Jok (34), Woodbury (33)...only reserve over 10 was Uhl (19)...in isolating watching Dom on defense he is getting better and held his own. How many times will you see Woody shorter than 2 guys on the other team? Woody was outstanding in all phases (and has been all year).
Didn't like the last possession in regulation..thought we could have done better with a TimeOut at that point.
Jok is an offensive game changer...when he gets hot. the game winning 3 was nice to see..he does need to shoot a better overall %.
would be nice going to Ames sitting at 7-2..but don't discount Western Illinois...they beat Wisconsin.
...blew out 2 of them...got behind in 2 of them falling short after comebacks from double digit opponent leads..played a great back & forth game with Florida St (who I consider the best talent of the 5 ... they just don't play very unselfish)...come NCAA tourney FlaSt could be a really good sleeper pick...they got a lot of weapons...if they learn to share...they could be really good.
I actually thought we played pretty good last night...could have made a few more open looks...but held a really talented team to less than 40%..our guys battled on every possession / offense to defense.
In order to win Fran played his vets. Minutes Gesell (40), Uthoff (39), Clemmons (36), Jok (34), Woodbury (33)...only reserve over 10 was Uhl (19)...in isolating watching Dom on defense he is getting better and held his own. How many times will you see Woody shorter than 2 guys on the other team? Woody was outstanding in all phases (and has been all year).
Didn't like the last possession in regulation..thought we could have done better with a TimeOut at that point.
Jok is an offensive game changer...when he gets hot. the game winning 3 was nice to see..he does need to shoot a better overall %.
would be nice going to Ames sitting at 7-2..but don't discount Western Illinois...they beat Wisconsin.
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We did not play well the first half. I think Florida State is a much better team without Bacon on the court. We played a solid second half and beat a good team. Their length and quickness isn't something you can duplicate in practice so we had to learn as the game went on. Gritty win for the Hawks.
I don't know if it the ball rotation or what, but when Jok swishes a three the net sounds like a freaking bull whip. It's like the crack of a bat from good hitters, it just sounds special.
Woody has been playing very well! The one thing I'm disappointed that he hasn't improved/learned is his defensive position when it comes to taking a possible charge. He recoils on contact which has lead to many of his fouls, where if he would have held his ground and allow the offensive player to plow in to him, he'd have a very good chance to take a charge.
This is a good point. Woody doesn't know how to draw a charge. He often gets called for fouls where he doesn't reach and is in position, but doesn't seem to sell the charge. I hate flopping, but a little acting would get a few calls.
Overall, Woody is playing very well.
I went thru the play by play, and Bacon made 5 shots. 2 or 3 dunks and the others jump shots. He must not play defense because he always seemed to be standing under their basket when they go a defensive rebound. No wonder he scored so much in High School and this year. Oh, and he took 16 shots.
Theres a reason players who are super talented but selfish end up where they do instead of a top tier place. Because the coach will allow them to play the way they want.
Those guys wouldn't be able to play for most coaches because most coaches won't put up with that.
Essentially my point is teams like that rarely get it together. They will have some big wins im sure and could beat anybody on a given night but they will struggle allot more than they should.
the semicircle in the paint area (now expanded even more) restricts draw charges by the defensive player regardless. you cant sell a charge under the rule If a defensive player is inside the restricted zone, an offensive player who makes contact with him cannot be called for a charging foul. This rule change was added to make the game safer, more fair and easier to referee.
even if Woody would attempt to flop it wouldn't have an impact inside the restricted zone...the worse thing that could happen is Woody picking up fouls because he is trying to draw a charge inside when the rules don't allow it. We need Woody on the floor not on the bench because of foul trouble.
if you are referring to outside the restricted area...trying to draw a charge is OK...all depends on who the opponent is. If a player is trying to back Woody down..I'd prefer one of the other guys trying to strip the ball..Gesell has done this on occasion.
Yes Woody has played terrific...
I understand the restricted zone, but Woody tends brace himself when the offensive player is coming toward him, so he usually doesn't move backwards much on impact. I think the zebras give him a foul or two just about every game on plays where he has position outside the restricted area, doesn't reach with his hands, and contact is initiated by the offensive player. I know Woody is a tough guy, but drawing charges is a really valuable skill. Keep in mind that I am NOT a Woody hater, and think he is playing really good ball.
Those stats go hand in hand. They gave up a ton of offensive rebounds. Especially when they were in the zone. Nobody found a man to box out. Such a frustrating thing to watch a team play solid d for 30 seconds and give up an offensive rebound. All about effort. Something I hope to see more of as the season progresses.
don't need to keep in mind you are not a Woody hater cause I know you are not...actually Woody has done a lot better backing away from the driver in the restricted area and still is getting called for the foul.
You are correct this year I have never seen as many fouls called on the defender resulting from the offensive ball handling creating the contact opposed to previous years. Its truly amazing. The offensive player can jump into the defender & the call goes against the defender.
In the end we need Woody on the floor...not on the bench.
Leonard Hamilton seems to always have some great players, but they never seem to mesh into a really good team.
It's funny how many Iowa fans don't respect Fran's ability to coach--he can't recruit, he can't make good in-game decisions, he never calls the right plays... It's amazing that Iowa is somehow winning without good players or coaches.
