We played Wis’ game & we didn’t play well for the most part

[ROCKY MOUNTAIN HAWK]

Mark this game down at season’s end. Iowa doesn’t win games like this historically.

Really no B1G teams beat Wis historically when the game is played at their pace & the opposing B1G team plays like we did tonight.

Huge, huge win! So hard/impressive to win 3 consecutive tough, tough games at home. I figured we’d lose at least 1 in this stretch.

I thought it would be to Rut but after we beat them I really didn’t like this game against a sneaky Wis team.

Just can’t say enough good things about this win!

 

[perryhawk]

Yeah, we played like crap for about 33 minutes of this game.....had a terrible shooting night, Luka missed shots he normally makes..we had missed defensive assignments.....and we still beat Wisconsin.

In a weird way I think that shows us that our Hawkeyes are pretty good.

 

[HerkysDad]

I said we needed an early big lead to keep them from slowing the pace. When they got 12 up with about 7 minutes to play....I feared the worst.

 

[Eternal Return]

I almost turned off the game three different times in the second half because they were playing so poorly. I kept waiting and waiting and waiting for them to make a run, but I honestly thought it was over when UW went up 12. Then Joe T showed up.

 

[sober_teacher]

Wisconsin has turned their style into an art form and have been remarkably successful at forcing teams to play their game. I lost track of the number of times that Joe T or Wieskamp or someone tried to get out and run, but Wisconsin beat them down the court. I think we succeeded at it only once or twice really.

It's just an incredibly frustrating style to play against.

 

[Sandistar]

Wisconsin has turned their style into an art form and have been remarkably successful at forcing teams to play their game. I lost track of the number of times that Joe T or Wieskamp or someone tried to get out and run, but Wisconsin beat them down the court. I think we succeeded at it only once or twice really.

It's just an incredibly frustrating style to play against.

I thought a stat line read Iowa had 25 fast break points, I may have misread, though.

 

[sober_teacher]

I thought a stat line read Iowa had 25 fast break points, I may have misread, though.

Fast break stats are an annoying one - not everyone tracks that the same. I haven't seen any stats regarding that from last night (remember when they used to regularly show stats during the game?). Looking at espn, Iowa had a mere 10 assists last night on 20 made baskets - shot only 33% and just 3/20 from 3 for the game. Stat of the game to me was that Wisconsin had 28 fouls for the game - I give credit to the players and coaches for not getting hung up on missing 3s. They attacked all game long and forced Wisconsin to foul, which normally they don't do.

 

[silasstarr]

I thought a stat line read Iowa had 25 fast break points, I may have misread, though.

You are correct.

 

[sober_teacher]

You are correct.

Thanks for checking that, I would not have thought we had that many fast break points.

 

[SDHawkDoc]

wisco's "game" is sh!t. It's not basketball. The goal is to turn it into a brawl and slow play to a snail's pace. The way to get rid of that kind of garbage is for officials to call it ultratight. Once they have to go to their deep reserves with 10 minutes left in a game because multiple players have fouled out they might get the message. And davison needs to see at least a game suspension for his little stunt.

 

[Call me rocket]

Didn’t play well? We played like asss is how we played. We played terrible.

 

[sober_teacher]

Didn’t play well? We played like asss is how we played. We played terrible.

I can't agree that we played terrible...we did win after all, going on a 23-5 run to end the game. I'll agree we were trending that way.

Full credit to the players/coaches for finding a way to pull it together on a night when not much was going right for a long time.

 

[littlez]

If you get behind Wisconsin like we did last night it's a very uphill battle. Also, though I hate to say it, you have to give Wisconsin a little credit. I'm sure someone here can correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we play man almost the entire first half and I thought we were pretty successful? To start the 2nd half we were very lethargic on D and of course Davidson hit those early 3's which put Fran in a rage (well deserved) and from that point on we were playing uphill the entire 2nd half. Potter is a big dude for Wiscy. I didn't realize he is a OSU transfer.

 

[Rifler]

33% from the field & 15% from three,.. no way we should have pulled that out...

 

[sober_teacher]

33% from the field & 15% from three,.. no way we should have pulled that out...

Think it was either Morehouse or Lesitkow on twitter, that was the fewest makes/shooting % from 3 in an Iowa victory since 2014. We made up for it with a free throw parade however, 28 - 15 fouls called (Wiscy/Iowa)

 

[steelrain]

When we were down 12 my son stated, "we need to go on a 10-0 run here" at which I replied, "If we are going to win we need to go on a 20-0 run." We did pretty much that going 23-5 run to finish the game.
The game was brutal for much of the time but the Hawks continued to show grit and heart in battling back for the win. This is a special team.

 

[cidhawkeye]

Fast break stats are an annoying one - not everyone tracks that the same. I haven't seen any stats regarding that from last night (remember when they used to regularly show stats during the game?). Looking at espn, Iowa had a mere 10 assists last night on 20 made baskets - shot only 33% and just 3/20 from 3 for the game. Stat of the game to me was that Wisconsin had 28 fouls for the game - I give credit to the players and coaches for not getting hung up on missing 3s. They attacked all game long and forced Wisconsin to foul, which normally they don't do.

28 ‘called’ fouls. There were plenty more to be had. The ‘can’t call them all’ mantra was at work. They called some cheaper early calls on the post play then let some the slapping and hacking stuff go later because of the already big discrepancy in calls(opinion). This game took me back to the old Durocher/Musselman teams where there was always a hip check, hold, bump and ended with a ‘I just had my hand up to go for the ball and his face ran into it’ play.

 

[anon_i8nzeu2gbf0ba]

Basketball was designed to be a noncontact sport. So far, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Illinois, and others haven't been notified, and so you end up with a mess like we saw in Carver last night. Some people say you can't call every foul against "physical" (cheating) teams like those mentioned, but I would ask, "Why not?" If the refs had the guts to do it, those teams would have to start playing by the rules pretty quickly or they'd simply run out of players every game while watching the opponent shoot 50 or more free throws.

For years we hear the game will be cleaned up, that the physical play will be punished, that "freedom of movement" will be the standard, and then the games begin and we end up with rugby matches on a 94-foot indoor field.

Fortunately, Iowa has a team full of players this year who, when forced to do so, can play rugby even better than the other guys. But it's a shame they have to do that.

 

[mstp1992]

The men seemed to take a page out Lisa Bluder's playbook. Play kind of spotty for 3 quarters of the game, get down for much of the game but never really out of reach, and then in the 4th quarter turn it on and snag the victory. However they did it, it worked.

 

[jonesy5960]

This game showed more than any other this year the difference between this year's team and the team we've seen the last several years. Had one of the worst shooting nights I can remember, down by 12 late in the 4th and somehow they manage to pull it out. No way this is a W in prior years because we couldn't get stops.

Garza, Joe T, CJ, Conner and Joe W are all tough defensive minded people that don't take any plays off. Opposing guards used to shred Iowa's defense on a daily basis. You aren't seeing any of that this year. Sure Trice hit some 3's along with Davison last night but last year we saw layups and dunks as guards continually broke down the defense drawing other defenders away from the basket. The maturation of Garza who has become a true rim protector along with the addition of Joe T and CJ on the perimeter are huge in this respect.

 

[HawkRugged17]

Styles make fights. Wisconsin plays the way they think they do to try and be competitive. They were blown out at Purdue on Friday. They lost their 2nd leading scorer. Mucking up the game was their chance to win ... it almost worked.

 

[Eternal Return]

Wisconsin has turned their style into an art form

I found the art form their style is based on:

 

[Eternal Return]

Mucking up the game was their chance to win ... it almost worked.

Mucking up the game is what teams who can't play basketball do. The Detroit Pistons started the trend to turn basketball into a thug's game. It's a shame because basketball is fun to watch when fouling to get the opponent out of rhythm isn't the team's primary goal.

 

[hawkeyekid]

Win or lose, this was a good game for the Hawks to go through. They fought through a rough shooting night against a completely different style of team.

 

[sober_teacher]

Mucking up the game is what teams who can't play basketball do. The Detroit Pistons started the trend to turn basketball into a thug's game. It's a shame because basketball is fun to watch when fouling to get the opponent out of rhythm isn't the team's primary goal.

The one caveat I'll add. When Bo Ryan had his system working at peak efficiency, it didn't seem like a thuggish style of basketball. Defensively, his style was meant to frustrate the opponent into mistakes, usually without making a mistake. Offensively, the system relied on execution and constantly testing the patience of the opponent. Especially when the shot clock was at 35 seconds, that's a long time to stay locked in at a stretch. They just had to wait for the opponent to lose focus for a second and they would take advantage.

Hard style to watch from an opposing fan's viewpoint, but effective. The system is slipping a bit now, with the quality of player not being as high as it well. It worked for a long time because Bo was great at getting smart players.

 

[Eternal Return]

The one caveat I'll add. When Bo Ryan had his system working at peak efficiency, it didn't seem like a thuggish style of basketball. Defensively, his style was meant to frustrate the opponent into mistakes, usually without making a mistake. Offensively, the system relied on execution and constantly testing the patience of the opponent. Especially when the shot clock was at 35 seconds, that's a long time to stay locked in at a stretch. They just had to wait for the opponent to lose focus for a second and they would take advantage.

Hard style to watch from an opposing fan's viewpoint, but effective. The system is slipping a bit now, with the quality of player not being as high as it well. It worked for a long time because Bo was great at getting smart players.

You're right. Bo's style was frustrating, but I don't remember them being quite as thuggish with the fouls under Bo. Then again, that's probably because he had more talent on his teams and they didn't need to punch, grab, push, etc., all game long. The slow offense is fine in the sense that it is just a style of play, but the thuggish D is not a style of play. Playing physical, fine, but fouling as a strategy is just bad basketball.

 

[sober_teacher]

You're right. Bo's style was frustrating, but I don't remember them being quite as thuggish with the fouls under Bo. Then again, that's probably because he had more talent on his teams and they didn't need to punch, grab, push, etc., all game long. The slow offense is fine in the sense that it is just a style of play, but the thuggish D is not a style of play. Playing physical, fine, but fouling as a strategy is just bad basketball.

As much as I disliked the guy, I can't imagine Bo would have been happy with Davison's cheap shots. He also would have been really upset with all the fouls last night. That was one of the biggest hallmarks with his teams, it was really, really hard to get them in foul trouble.

 

[cleotishaywood]

wisco's "game" is sh!t. It's not basketball. The goal is to turn it into a brawl and slow play to a snail's pace. The way to get rid of that kind of garbage is for officials to call it ultratight. Once they have to go to their deep reserves with 10 minutes left in a game because multiple players have fouled out they might get the message. And davison needs to see at least a game suspension for his little stunt.

They are kinda like us in football in that they stick to what works and you know what they're going to do.
Unfortunately that script has worked for them and they have had success with it. They just happened to have a game like everyone else where the shots quit falling or they they start turning the ball over. But they still kept plugging away even when they were all in foul trouble. The good guys prevailed but it could have went the other way too.

 

[Eternal Return]

As much as I disliked the guy, I can't imagine Bo would have been happy with Davison's cheap shots. He also would have been really upset with all the fouls last night. That was one of the biggest hallmarks with his teams, it was really, really hard to get them in foul trouble.

Exactly, they played tough D without fouling (for the most part). Under Gard, mugging has become more and more their style of "defense." Last night was the worst I'd ever seen, though. Then again, I don't watch UW much unless they're playing against Iowa so maybe that has become more of the norm for them against other teams, too.