Yeah. I would agree with that. Easy wins with higher value. Virginia and ISU are definitely going to improve the noncon SOS though and ultimately it will be Iowa's performance in conference that will determine their fate in March.
We will know how good this team is on Dec 6
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Lets just hope that if we are on the NCAA Tournament bubble in late Feb and then into March, our noncon SOS is not what keeps us out
If we slip up vs Virginia & Clown U & go 9-2 in the nonconference, I think we have to go at least 10-10 in conference play, which gets us to 19-12 before the B1G Tournament. And then I don't think we can be 1 and done in the BTT.
What's interesting is who UNI has played.
They lost by 13 to #16 (at the time) Arkansas.
Yesterday they beat #16 St Bonaventure by 10.
On the strength of schedule note, here's kind of a fun one. So people still recreate the RPI even though it's no longer used. Iowa is 6-0 and #143. Kennesaw State is 0-4 and #145.
Iowa has played Kennesaw State in recent years. A couple times I believe. Absolutely blasted them. If they played right now, I'm sure they would be a 29 point underdog, as is kind of standard for teams mismatched that badly.
Really goes to show how much the RPI sucked. It put more emphasis on simply playing tougher teams than actually winning games.
Iowa has played Kennesaw State in recent years. A couple times I believe. Absolutely blasted them. If they played right now, I'm sure they would be a 29 point underdog, as is kind of standard for teams mismatched that badly.
Really goes to show how much the RPI sucked. It put more emphasis on simply playing tougher teams than actually winning games.
I think Virginia and ISU are both toss-ups right now and I think the Hawks have a good chance at being .500+ in the conference. I wouldn't be surprised if they won or lost both. I predict that they split the next 4 in what might be their toughest 4 game stretch this year. If they do I'm optimistic that this team exceeds expectations this year. I think a lot of that depends on how you, I mean Fran manages the personnel and the minutes they play. We need a few players like Kris to get more minutes than maybe you, I mean Fran is comfortable with.
it will be interesting to see how many he plays in the next 4 games.
I think the only players he's not comfortable using are Riley & Josh.
I am guessing he sticks with these 10. And I agree, we are really going to need Kris.
Joe
JBO
PMac
Keegan
Filip
Kris
Connor
Payton
Perkins
Ulis
I get your point on new positions, but feel there is a bit of sandbagging on experience here. Keegan played 18 minutes a game last year, Joe T started a year then played almost the same as Keegan last year, and Patrick was part of the regular rotation getting ~15 min per game. They each played consistently, playing in all or nearly all of the games. Couple that with their age and these young men have played a lot of basketball. In-experienced seems overplayed with this group. I believe that while they have played a weak non-con schedule so far, the fact they have taken care of business and played well together doesn’t support the narrative.
I think the missing elements here are lack of playing together….comfort, continuity, coordination and experience together only come from…playing together.
The defense is where we might see missed assignments or switching that’s a half a step or more late….or to soon.
The bottom line (only my uninformed opinion) is that we aren’t ready for teams like Virginia. How will this team play, how will they adjust when a Tony Bennett coached team puts the clamps on Keegan?
When the starting PG gets in foul trouble how will Ulis do against the tougher competition?
Etc
From the Fran interview before the Virginia game:
Q: In front of a hostile crowd?
It will be a challenge. It's always that way. Less of a factor with veteran team. Have about eight guys who haven't played in front of a hostile crowd. even the guys who played a lot last year haven't played in front of anyone. I think we are all excited about this opportunity. This is what we sign up for and we will see how we perform.
3 of our next 4 games are on the road, in front of loud, hostile crowds
at Virginia
at Purdue
vs Illinois
at Clown U
We are gonna learn a lot here shortly.
one thing about the Murrays that I love is that they are going to rebound the frickin' basketball.
i don't care if Kris scores; i just love rebounding and having possession of the frickin' basketball.
and i hate turnovers, which means you lost possession of the freakin' basketball.
Kennesaw State is not a bad team by any stretch of the imagination. Keep your eye on them.
Yup. That's what separates Kris and Keegan from the rest. They can do it all.one thing about the Murrays that I love is that they are going to rebound the frickin' basketball.
i don't care if Kris scores; i just love rebounding and having possession of the frickin' basketball.
and i hate turnovers, which means you lost possession of the freakin' basketball.
Some on here are very adamant that Fran has scheduled a highly cupcake schedule. Whom on here can define a cupcake schedule?
In earlier years of Fran's tenure, posters complained of Fran scheduling teams with well over an 300 rpi. That probably won't stop while Fran is coach but it is improving. Let's look.
1. Longwood, started the season with an rpi of 249 and as of 11/28 is at 204,
clearly after a 33 point drubbing by Iowa they are not listed in the 300rpi's
2. UMKC, started the season with an rpi of 248 and as of 11/28 is at 202.
Iowa beat them by 22 they are not listed in the 300rpi's
3. North Carolina Central, started the season with an rpi of 343 and of of
11/28 is at 341....first team still under 300rpi. Had an entirely new roster of
transfers and portal gets.
4. Alabama St, started the season at 357 and as of 11/28 they are at 333 rpi..... second team under 300rpi.
5. Western Michigan, started the season at 312 and as of 11/28 is now at
310..... third team under 300rpi.
6. Portland St, started the season at 223 and as of 11/28 is now at 255.
7. Virginia, started the season 45 and as of 11/28 now at 47.
8. Iowa St, started the season 113, as of 11/28 now at 74.
9. Utah St, started the season 95, as of 11/28 now at 61.
10. Southeastern Louisiana, started the season 314, as of 11/28 now at
318....fourth team under300rpi.
11. Western Illinois, started the season 242, as of 11/28 now at 189.
Clearly this 11 game preseason schedule has only 4 teams with an rpi of 300 or worse. 4 teams have an rpi in the 200's, 1 team has an rpi in the 100's, and 2 teams have an rpi under 100. That's hardly the cupcake schedule that some on here have complained about.
Yes, Iowa is blowing through the 6 games so far but maybe this Iowa team is better then the pendants predicted instead of playing cupcake teams. After all, Iowa is averaging 31 points better then their defensive average.
Yeng or Yang, we really won't know how good this team is, until the next 4 games are played, but Iowa's schedule is not comprised of cupcakes by any means.....
In earlier years of Fran's tenure, posters complained of Fran scheduling teams with well over an 300 rpi. That probably won't stop while Fran is coach but it is improving. Let's look.
1. Longwood, started the season with an rpi of 249 and as of 11/28 is at 204,
clearly after a 33 point drubbing by Iowa they are not listed in the 300rpi's
2. UMKC, started the season with an rpi of 248 and as of 11/28 is at 202.
Iowa beat them by 22 they are not listed in the 300rpi's
3. North Carolina Central, started the season with an rpi of 343 and of of
11/28 is at 341....first team still under 300rpi. Had an entirely new roster of
transfers and portal gets.
4. Alabama St, started the season at 357 and as of 11/28 they are at 333 rpi..... second team under 300rpi.
5. Western Michigan, started the season at 312 and as of 11/28 is now at
310..... third team under 300rpi.
6. Portland St, started the season at 223 and as of 11/28 is now at 255.
7. Virginia, started the season 45 and as of 11/28 now at 47.
8. Iowa St, started the season 113, as of 11/28 now at 74.
9. Utah St, started the season 95, as of 11/28 now at 61.
10. Southeastern Louisiana, started the season 314, as of 11/28 now at
318....fourth team under300rpi.
11. Western Illinois, started the season 242, as of 11/28 now at 189.
Clearly this 11 game preseason schedule has only 4 teams with an rpi of 300 or worse. 4 teams have an rpi in the 200's, 1 team has an rpi in the 100's, and 2 teams have an rpi under 100. That's hardly the cupcake schedule that some on here have complained about.
Yes, Iowa is blowing through the 6 games so far but maybe this Iowa team is better then the pendants predicted instead of playing cupcake teams. After all, Iowa is averaging 31 points better then their defensive average.
Yeng or Yang, we really won't know how good this team is, until the next 4 games are played, but Iowa's schedule is not comprised of cupcakes by any means.....
As I have stated, I am going to keep track of our nonconference strength of schedule (SOS) and see how it moves between now and Jan 5.
On Nov 26, our nonconference SOS was #354 out of 358 teams.
Will it move out of the 300's by Jan 5?? Stay tuned.
Meanwhile, this is what we know about our 11 nonconference opponents:
KenPom
Rank on:
Nov26.......Nonconference Opponent
208.............Longwood
193..............Kansas City
342...........NC Central
332...........Alabama State
320...........Western Michigan
254.............Portland State
47................Virginia
95...............Iowa State
68...............Utah State
305...........Southeastern Louisiana
202.............Western Illinois
In the Nov 26 ESPN Bracketology, Iowa is OFF the bubble and is a 10 seed.
Utah State, a future opponent, is a 10 seed and has one of the last 4 byes.
9 B1G teams are projected to make the NCAA Tournament.
Seed/Team:
1 Purdue
4 Michigan
5 Michigan State
6 Illinois
6 Ohio State
7 Indiana
9 Maryland
10 IOWA
10 Wisconsin (Last 4 Byes)
The Full Bracket:
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/s...ology-projecting-2022-march-madness-men-field
Utah State, a future opponent, is a 10 seed and has one of the last 4 byes.
9 B1G teams are projected to make the NCAA Tournament.
Seed/Team:
1 Purdue
4 Michigan
5 Michigan State
6 Illinois
6 Ohio State
7 Indiana
9 Maryland
10 IOWA
10 Wisconsin (Last 4 Byes)
The Full Bracket:
https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/s...ology-projecting-2022-march-madness-men-field
I would be surprised if nine B1G make the tournament this year. Looks like a down year to me. Obviously there is some cream that will rise to the top, but there are a lot of fairly mediocre teams, by recent B1G standards, so the fight for the middle of the standings could be fierce.
ACC is super down, the Pac12 looks down, and most mid-majors are 1 big leagues now. It’s conceivable.
When there’s 356 teams and 4 of the teams you play in the preseason are in the 300’s it’s a shitty schedule. Slice it any way you want. These teams all sucked. We beat a solid UVA team on the road yesterday. That’s a good win. Those other games might as well have been exhibitions.
Well, Kentucky is at 343, Texas at 322, Texas Tech at 358, and UConn at 326, so we are in good company. Check back in 10 days and see where we are. (prolly not undefeated)
Enjoy this while we can. Given the schedule the B1G has handed us to start the year, this may be the high point of the season.
That's why i made note of what our nonconf SOS was on Nov 26. I will compare that to Jan 5 and moving forward. Hopefully it improves dramatically.
As I noted before, I just hope our weak nonconf schedule does not keep us out of the NCAA Tournament
As I have stated, I am going to keep track of our nonconference strength of schedule (SOS) and see how it moves between now and Jan 5.
On Nov 26, our nonconference SOS was #354 out of 358 teams.
Today, Dec 3, we play our first conference game.
* Our nonconference SOS is #352 out of 358 teams.
* Our overall SOS is #352 out of 358 teams
Will our nonconference SOS move out of the 300's by Jan 5?? Stay tuned.
Meanwhile, this is what we know about our 11 nonconference opponents:
KenPom
Rank on:
Nov...Dec
26........3.......Nonconference Opponent
208....200........Longwood
193.....220.........Kansas City
342...339........NC Central
332...338........Alabama State
320...313.........Western Michigan
254...250..........Portland State
47........46..........Virginia
95.......80..........Iowa State
68.......60..........Utah State
305...318........Southeastern Louisiana
202....182..........Western Illinois
On Nov 26, our nonconference SOS was #354 out of 358 teams.
Today, Dec 3, we play our first conference game.
* Our nonconference SOS is #352 out of 358 teams.
* Our overall SOS is #352 out of 358 teams
Will our nonconference SOS move out of the 300's by Jan 5?? Stay tuned.
Meanwhile, this is what we know about our 11 nonconference opponents:
KenPom
Rank on:
Nov...Dec
26........3.......Nonconference Opponent
208....200........Longwood
193.....220.........Kansas City
342...339........NC Central
332...338........Alabama State
320...313.........Western Michigan
254...250..........Portland State
47........46..........Virginia
95.......80..........Iowa State
68.......60..........Utah State
305...318........Southeastern Louisiana
202....182..........Western Illinois
The are still are what I expected
I predicted 17-14 and that’s still my prediction
Iowa state loss Thursday most likely
I predicted 17-14 and that’s still my prediction
Iowa state loss Thursday most likely
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