All these husker dbags are telling us it's a guaranteed loss this Friday so the ride was fun, good effort Hawks! Oh wait... Nebraska isn't that great? They lost to.... Pur...due?! But what about the national titl... But Iowa won a NC in 58! (Both are about as relevant as the other) Old Debbie needs to crawl back to her own board full of (k)Nowledge and waft that wrinkled, saggy twat over there. 11-0 Debbie, suck it!
Well, its been nice
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Oh we're up against it because the Nebraska players have been talking about this game ever since they finished the Rutgers game and got to watch us play Minnesota. They're hungry for a win because they didn't get enough when we handed them a free win last year.
Might as well stay at home and start getting ready for the Big Ten Championship Game instead, since Nebraska wants that bowl bid reserved for 6-win teams so bad.
I mean it is amazing listening to Nebraska fans talk themselves into believing without a doubt that they'll beat Iowa, and what will come of it, like it's simply a forgone conclusion.
Might as well stay at home and start getting ready for the Big Ten Championship Game instead, since Nebraska wants that bowl bid reserved for 6-win teams so bad.
I mean it is amazing listening to Nebraska fans talk themselves into believing without a doubt that they'll beat Iowa, and what will come of it, like it's simply a forgone conclusion.
Their message boards would lead you to believe that they are the ones that are 11-0.
Amazing the level of arrogance from a fan base that hasn't sniffed a Top 10 finish in years.
Amazing the level of arrogance from a fan base that hasn't sniffed a Top 10 finish in years.
They beat Rutgers by 17. It was a 1 possession game (21-14) until 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Touchdown Tommy threw 3 INTs and had under 200 yards passing, and 2 yards rushing on 7 attempts.
1 game, and all of a sudden OId Nebraska is back! World beaters. Unbelievable. Oh, and don't get me started about their game against MSU. A gift from the gods - and MSU choked away the last minute w their depleted secondary.
Can't wait for this game to be over so these catfishing, trash-talking douchebags can leave us.
1 game, and all of a sudden OId Nebraska is back! World beaters. Unbelievable. Oh, and don't get me started about their game against MSU. A gift from the gods - and MSU choked away the last minute w their depleted secondary.
Can't wait for this game to be over so these catfishing, trash-talking douchebags can leave us.
Nebraska used to be great. They are no longer great. They are average at best this year. Their fan base can't deal with it. They are the aged hot model that continues to have plastic surgery to hold on to their past. They are no longer a destination place for college football. They are just an aging, ugly version of what they used to be. Look what the hell they settled for in a head coach....nice guy but holy crap, that is the best they can do?
LSU won the title in 1958 according to both polls. In fact, 15 of the 16 selectors chose LSU, led by all-everything 1959 Heisman Trophy winner Billy Cannon and going a perfect 11-0 against a decent schedule. In comparison, Iowa went 8-1-1 against a similar schedule, losing to the #8 team and tying the #6 team, with both teams almost certainly falling out of the top 10 if Iowa had actually beat them. They did beat #7 Wisconsin.
http://deadspin.com/5975168/the-def...l-national-champions-or-why-alabama-is-a-liar
Regardless of the length of time that's passed, a legitimate title (or 5) will always be more relevant than an unofficial claimed one.
It really is a different breed of Nebbie fans this year. How will they act if Iowa actually wins?
No they are delusional as always. They just went into hiding until they beat MSU. On a call everyone but NU thinks that they got away with one.
The Football Writers of America was as powerful as the AP back then. Also they did a poll AFTER the bowls, crazy concept huh?
Nope. NCAA officially recognizes it. And the reason why it's legitimate is because Iowa played a tougher schedule AND played an integrated schedule with an integrated roster. LSU did not. They were still white players only.
You shouldn't honor LSU's sole claim to the title for that reason alone.
The sad part to me is that this Nebraska team is a real threat to us even though we are undefeated.
We can sit in our Hawks nest crowing all day, but bottom line is they will give us all we can handle. Not sure what that says about our team, but it's clearly true.
We can sit in our Hawks nest crowing all day, but bottom line is they will give us all we can handle. Not sure what that says about our team, but it's clearly true.
Oh f*** they're avoiding that like the plague. They couldn't spend more than a couple seconds at most thinking about what it would mean if they lost on Friday. "Well it would be disappointing and they'll be left wondering what could've been and most likely they won't be going to a bowl.................but I just have a feeling this team is way to focused and amped up for this game!" And then it's back to discussions about what will happen going forward if they win.
Out of all the Husker fans and talk show hosts I heard this week, that was literally all you got from them if they lose; sometimes just a part of that..."Well it would be disappointing....but I don't think we'll lose." "Well obviously we wouldn't be going bowling....but this team is just playing too well right now."
They are doing everything they can to pretend like a loss is not possible. It's f***ing hilarious.
Of course, I'll bet money that they give us the ISU silent treatment if we win. Meaning we win and they just drop off the face of the earth. No trolling or trash-talking, no arguing about the game (unless the officials clearly screw somebody over, because that's the one precedent that supersedes everything in fandom arguments....), no well-wishes other than the occasional and brief "good game Hawks", and I'll be shocked if there's even a "better team won" or two in there..............................and then they're gone.
And I'll be just fine with that.
Well apparently it bothered you enough to try and prove that LSU was the only team that won a title in 1958, sooooooooooo...................
Thanks for playing.
It means exactly what you think it means. That there's a lot of slightly above average teams out there capable of knocking off just about anyone on any given weekend if they get the breaks and the other team does not come ready to play.
A team like Iowa State probably should have beaten Oklahoma State, who is a legitimate Top 25 team along with the other upper tier Big 12 teams despite their lack of defense.
I agree with the national pundits that say there's a handful of really good teams but no really great/dominating teams in college football this year. That's why it is a perfect opportunity for Iowa, if they're willing to work hard enough to earn it. To this point, they have.
Except according to the NCAA there were 4 "legit" polls in 1958, not just 2. The FWAA was awarded after the season and presented it's National Title trophy to the 1958 Iowa Hawkeyes.
The NCAA says Iowa has a national title, that's good enough for me.
LSU won the regional white only championship.
Iowa won the National Championship.
It's really that simple.
Iowa won the National Championship.
It's really that simple.
they will just flap their gums about how this is their worst team since the dawn of time, so essentially, Iowa's win won't count.
All the national media wants us to lose, so i really hope we win.
The NCAA added it recently because a few schools, mostly SEC ones, started claiming unofficial crowns. Most people mock the SEC for doing that. ND and Nebraska for example, don't claim any unofficial titles after the poll era began, because for decades, the polls were considered the only official arbiters of titles. Others pad their stats in any way possible.
Makes me no difference. Just a fun fact, and figured some didn't know that. If you want to claim imaginary titles every year, be my guest. One guy claimed a top ten finish in 2005 when Iowa finished 7-5. If the delusion helps you guys feel better, go right ahead. It isn't hurting anyone.
The article I linked gave Iowa credit for doing it right, but that must've changed recently. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
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Sooooo, the National title should be awarded before the post season? Makes sense.
No, but that had nothing to do with the year in question. Bowls weren't viewed the same then as now. Back then, they were more like exhibitions. Some big time schools couldn't even go to bowls some years because they didn't allow repeat participants. Either way, LSU won their bowl game against a better team than Iowa played in theirs. Both polls would have still granted LSU the title even if they voted after the bowls. That's a near certain truth.
What year did teams start trying to win bowl games. Was it you claiming Nebraska has only been giving 75% effort in losses this year? Iowa only gave 75% effort in their 1958 loss. That's a fact!
Huh? Who said teams weren't trying to win bowl games? When the coaches poll moved to after the bowls in 1965, bowls actually became relevant in determining champions. When the AP joined them in the 70s, the Big 10 and Pac 8/10 started allowing more than one team to play in a bowl each year. In the 50s, even if you won your league, you couldn't always go to a bowl. For example, Ohio State won the Big 10 in 1955, but couldn't go to the Rose Bowl because they went in 1954. TOSU stayed home while the runner-up went bowling. Not because the runner-up was better, but because of silly rules about repeat participants. Big 8 and Pac 8/10 had same rules. It wasn't seen as a big deal though, because bowls were just exhibitions in warm locales. It was a different time, with different expectations.
As for giving less than full effort, who cares, they lost. Again, whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm not trying to ruin your fantasy. If you can't handle the truth, no big deal. Just figured some like to know the facts.
I think everyone is aware of the history of bowls and their importance over time. The reason they started doing ALL of the polls after the bowl games is because of situations like 1958(although more because of years when the fraudulent champion got their assets kicked in a bowl game.)
I have seen Iowa's national championship trophy. They didn't give it to themselves.
I have seen Iowa's national championship trophy. They didn't give it to themselves.
Lol, u mad cuz Iowa has a legit national title.
P.S. If your response doesn't include some kind of reference to the fact that you have 5 of those, which is in no way relevant to what we're arguing about, I will be extremely disappointed that you didn't go out of your way, as a Husker fan, to remind us how many national titles you have.......
Yes, it was. You do not know as much about the history of college football as you think you do. Stop trying so hard.
You aren't presenting facts. You're interpreting certain facts to support your own conclusions/opinions.
Thanks for playing, now gtfo. You lost.
Nebraska fan here. I haven't talked to one Nebraska fan that says there's no doubt that we'll beat you. All of us know you are 11-0 for a reason. You know how to close out games and that's what we've struggled with this year otherwise we could be about at the same spot you are. There's definitely not a difference in talent and if you think there is you're being ignorant. I think we have the better offense while you guys have the better defense. I'm hoping for a good big ten battle. Don't really want a blowout either way. This series is definitely starting to get to rival status. Just wanted to make sure you know we don't think you're a bad team or anything. You've taken care of the schedule put in front of you to this point. Regardless of the toughness, I believe any given week a lowly big ten team could knock off a top big ten team. That's how our conference is. I think it's the best in football. After tomorrow win or lose, I'm pulling for you to win the big ten and represent our conference in the playoffs.
Best of luck Hawk fans. Hope those of you that attend the game tomorrow feel welcomed. Drive safe!
Best of luck Hawk fans. Hope those of you that attend the game tomorrow feel welcomed. Drive safe!
Polls are nothing more than opinions.
and unfortunately for you no they were not.
Some polls declared a champion after the bowls. As it should be.
Some folks think your bowl performance should be considered. Modern college football and the BCS & CFB Playoff agree with these folks, not you.
That's interesting....Minny has 6 NC. Just shows how classless Nebraska fans are!!!
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