What happens when you die?
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Bullshit, not on the right. If that were the case they'd be up Franklin Graham's bleached ass.
You leave a lot of paperwork for your descendants and beneficiaries if you don’t have your ducks in a row.
sincerely, the offspring who’s parents left some of this up to my ability to Easter egg hunt.
sincerely, the offspring who’s parents left some of this up to my ability to Easter egg hunt.
You wouldn't, though. I'm not. You'd be depressed if you were forced to take my outlook, just like atheists are miserable when they're forced to base their lifestyle on Christian beliefs.
Doesn't have to be the Christian belief system. You're seriously ok that when you die, that's it, dust? Nothing else? Nodda. Zilch?
I believe that if you accept Jesus as your savior , you will be with Him and The Lord God in Heaven when you die. If you choose not to accept Jesus as your only savior, then you are on your own.
All good things including love come from God.
Heaven = With God.
Hell = Without God.
All good things including love come from God.
Heaven = With God.
Hell = Without God.
What are the joys of Heaven?
We will see the Lord face to face.
We will live forever in the presence of the Lord.
We will have no more sorrow, pain, or death
We will serve the Lord as we worship Him.
We will be holy and never able to sin.
We will have a perfect body with no need for food or sleep
We will live in the glorious light of God as there is no night.
We will see the Lord face to face.
We will live forever in the presence of the Lord.
We will have no more sorrow, pain, or death
We will serve the Lord as we worship Him.
We will be holy and never able to sin.
We will have a perfect body with no need for food or sleep
We will live in the glorious light of God as there is no night.
Yep. For me I'm honestly happier knowing that I live a good life then I'm stardust, rather than requiring myself to do the mental gymnastics I would have to do daily to believe in a higher power. I'd be miserable trying to wrap my head around a hope of some magical afterlife or reincarnation. In my perception I'd have to willingly ignore all complete lack of evidence and vast contradictions to make things that don't exist sound true. I just can't base an entire belief system on faith, when I know that for centuries that faith has been abused to create power and wealth. Again in my perception, God is created in the minds of men to have hope of something after this life, then that myth has been abused by churches and politicians to keep them in power.
But this is only my perception of things. I'm entirely fine with your choice to worship however you want to. What I'm getting very tired of is zealots and evangelicals pushing the rules of their faith on others who don't believe as they do. A religion may have a covenant with its god to spread the word, but again, this just feels like those in power using their flock to create more converts to increase their power. So as long as you're fine with me having my belief or lack thereof, you go worship God or Buddha or the Flying Spaghetti Monster all you want. I hope it gives you peace and comfort.
Last night before we left my aunt in hospice, we told her we loved her and that she was going to be with Jesus, her husband, mother, father, and countless family members.
She passed away a few hours after we left. A bittersweet ending to a life well lived. I honestly believe all of the above is true.
She passed away a few hours after we left. A bittersweet ending to a life well lived. I honestly believe all of the above is true.
Lights out. It'll be like before I was born. Heaven is a nice idea, and it's fine if people find comfort in it, but I highly doubt it's real.
That is certainly one alternative that you can choose. You could also choose God by accepting Him into your heart . It really boils down to choice. God will never reject a pure heart that takes Him in. We have nothing to lose by accepting Christ as our savior and everything to gain.
None of us can know for sure what waits for us, but Love has proven itself to me to be the strongest force I’ve ever seen or felt. It may transcend our experience here on Earth. God is Love.
Sounds nice. I'm glad you find comfort in it. But I can't make myself believe in a sky fairy.
"God is Love" might be the funniest thing I've read on this board. If you believe in the bible, you believe he wiped out the entirety of civilization save for a few people and animals on an ark, or that he sent several plagues specifically to wipe out people.
I use to consider myself a staunch atheist from my mid teens to mid twenties. I spent many a night in the early days of the internet arguing/debating against Christianity in the AOL chat rooms. Good times. After my views changed, I spent my time arguing against atheists too. To me both sides made no sense, but at least the Christians had faith.
This is going to sound harsh (but mid 20’s Chuck C didn’t GAF) I would always ask atheists if they were true to their beliefs, and there was nothing more to this life than what they have now, let’s see how strong your faith in atheism is and kill yourself now. What difference does it make? Sure you can say things like, “ I’m living my best life for my family and kids, so they can have the best lives they can.” In the end, it doesn’t matter. You’re dead, they’re dead, everything’s dead. You living a “good life” doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things. The universe will grow cold either way.
I don’t argue with atheists or Christians anymore. IMO it’s pointless, just like politics, most people have no interest in an actual discussion, they’re just waiting their turn to get their word in, and blindly push their side,
IMO, that’s what make sense. Let’s hear your thoughts, or do you just ridicule from your perch in an old folks home on the east coast.
I subscribe to the Wiccan Rede, "An it harm no other do as ye will"
These are always the gray areas you run into. Define “harm”. That definition varies vastly across time and cultures.
I think this guy's philosophy in regards to prioritizing Jesus and not the organized church, but it still doesn't settle my biggest beef with Christianity, that Jesus died for our sins. I can be a total douchebag all of my life and suddenly be forgiven.
Since concsciousness originates in the brain, the most obvious conclusion is that death is the end. Fade to black.
As for reincarnation, it’s just silly to say it “makes sense” compared to any other option. There’s no reason to think that.
That's why it's important to understand grace. Andy Stanley's "How Good is Good Enough" is a great read on the topic. It's not possible to earn our way into Heaven. ...and for the more legalistic readers, no, this doesn't put Paul and Jame's teachings at odds.
Im not very religious so bear with me, but what's the point of life on earth is heaven is the eternal, end all be all?
It's my understanding that Heaven is only our temporary home. When Christians die our souls ascend to heaven where we fellowship with God and rest from our labors until Jesus returns to Earth.
When Jesus returns, Christians come with Him to be reunited with our glorious new bodies which will be like His body (2 Corinthians 15:35-56). Then we will reign with Christ for one thousand years (Revelation 20:1-6). After that, all evil will be judged and vanquished. Then Jesus will create a new Heaven and a new Earth and all Christians will live for eternity (imagine an experience that exists outside the confines of time) with God and serve his purposes on this new earth (Revelation 21:1-5; 22:1-5)
The purpose of our human life is to prepare us for eternity. The Holy Spirit molds and shapes the character of Jesus into our lives. Enjoying an intimate, personal relationship with God gives us a foretaste of what eternal life in the presence of God will be like.
That's the point, though. If this is all I get, why would I want to end it, especially if I believe it's all I get? That's like sitting at the Iowa-Ohio State game in 2017 with Iowa up by 31 points, knowing it would never happen again, and leaving in the 3rd quarter. I wanted to savor every second of it.
Look, I'd love to have faith. I'd love to believe there's something after this life to look forward to. I just don't see any evidence of it. All the evidence that is put forward is either unverifiable or contradictory. In my perception, it's literally The Greatest Story Ever Told, but it's just that, a story.
As I said before, if having faith gives you peace and comfort and hope, that's wonderful. I wish you nothing but the best. I'm happy to debate it, and you're welcome to try to convince me that I'm wrong. It's when one of us tries to force our beliefs on the other that it becomes a problem.
How Science Stopped Backing Atheists and Started Pointing Back to God
Far from pointing to "blind, pitiless indifference," the great discoveries of the last century point to the exquisite design of life.
www.newsweek.com
Someone who really intrigued me and inadvertently got me back on the religious path. To the best of my knowledge, he’s not religious but makes compelling connections to science and spirituality.
https://youtube.com/c/GreggBradenOfficial
Bible also tells us that He gave up His only Son to be tortured to death to pay for all of our sins and allow us to be with Him in Heaven when we die. As a parent myself, I cannot imagine any greater love than to give up your child for the world. It’s your choice. What do you have to lose ?
Thing is…If I’m wrong I’ll never know it. But what if I’m right?
I will pray for you to find His peace and allow it into your life. No harm in that.
I wouldn't, you're wasting your time. "God" gives babies disease and syndromes. Awesome deity you got there.
Setting aside the fact that this defines Christianity as a cult based on human sacrifice, Hitler may very well have loved Eva Braun, but that would not have made him a loving man. The God of the Bible is a psychopathic, genocidal, narcissist.
Yes, you are absolutely correct. In fact, my oldest daughter was born with Rett Syndrome. (Google it) She cannot walk, or talk and most likely wont ever be able to. She will never be able to care for herself. Yet, God provides for her (and ours at parents ) needs in many ways. It's not what I or anyone else would have signed up for as a parent, yet she has taught us so much. (she is now age 25) and brings us so much joy.
Yes, God is awesome. He brings us hope in a world that is compromised by evil and death.
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