What has B Hussein Obama Cost the Dem party?

[RockEyeState]

Since Obama's election in 2008, Dem losses at all other levels has been staggering.

69 Dem house seats lost, 13 Senate seats. Then there's the 910 state legislative seats that the
Dems have surrendered, 30 state senate seats and 11 Governorships..

The Dems are at their weakest position at State capitols in a century,

Perhaps this is why The Donald has such strong support. Heck, Trump might even
carry Johnson County, Iowa, come November. (Probably by default though, as the candidate those folks
want to vote for will be in jail).

***Footnote: Borrowed some of stats from Wash Post article.

Otherwise, Obama has been great, yeah, uh-huh

 

[Raglefant]

History will remember him to be a great President who made enormous progress under some of the most difficult circumstances and in the face of arguably the most cynical obstructionism in our nation's history. I approve this message.

 

[h-hawk]

Don't know if the scope is larger than normal but this is typical for all Presidents.

"Actually, though, "losing" a midterm election is the rule, rather than the exception, for the party that controls the White House. Only five times in American history has the president's party avoided losing seats in Congress during a midterm election. And each of these instances involved extraordinary circumstances, among them the turmoil over Reconstruction in 1866, the Depression in 1934 and the 9/11 attacks and the early months of the war on terror in 2002.

The fact that the president's party loses seats in Congress in 90% of midterm elections suggests that not even the most brilliant service in the White House can change the outcome."

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/oct/03/opinion/la-oe-bates-midterm-elections-20101003

 

[soybean]

Since Obama's election in 2008, Dem losses at all other levels has been staggering.

69 Dem house seats lost, 13 Senate seats. Then there's the 910 state legislative seats that the
Dems have surrendered, 30 state senate seats and 11 Governorships..

The Dems are at their weakest position at State capitols in a century,

Perhaps this is why The Donald has such strong support. Heck, Trump might even
carry Johnson County, Iowa, come November. (Probably by default though, as the candidate those folks
want to vote for will be in jail).

***Footnote: Borrowed some of stats from Wash Post article.

Otherwise, Obama has been great, yeah, uh-huh

If all of this is true then why havn't things gotten better with the GOP in charge?

 

[22*43*51]

History will remember him to be a great President who made enormous progress under some of the most difficult circumstances and in the face of arguably the most cynical obstructionism in our nation's history. I approve this message.

I wish that were the case, but leaders do not cloak themselves in such excuses.

 

[Raglefant]

I wish that were the case, but leaders do not cloak themselves in such excuses.

He's not cloaking himself in anything. Those are facts and history will reflect the truth. People will look back on this shit show of an era with shame for many reasons.

 

[22*43*51]

He's not cloaking himself in anything. Those are facts and history will reflect the truth. People will look back on this shit show of an era with shame for many reasons.

You help him bear no responsibility in the shit show.

The most powerful man in the world can only be viewed as a victim by the feeble minded.

 

[Raglefant]

You help him bear no responsibility in the shit show.

The most powerful man in the world can only be viewed as a victim by the feeble minded.

I never said no responsibility. It's never all or nothing, only the feeble minded think in such absolutes. Derpity derp derp, that should be enough to easily best your last statement.

 

[22*43*51]

I never said no responsibility. It's never all or nothing, only the feeble minded think in such absolutes. Derpity derp derp, that should be enough to easily best your last statement.

Let me remind you that you started the absolutes.

Derp, derp.

 

[dgordo]

Why is is Obamas fault the democrats don't have any good candidates?

 

[Pepperman]

Is raglefant Fred ?

 

[22*43*51]

Why is is Obamas fault the democrats don't have any good candidates?

Legacy.

The same reason why it will be his fault when President Trump is sworn in.

 

[Raglefant]

Let me remind you that you started the absolutes.

Derp, derp.

No, no I didn't.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

History will remember him to be a great President who made enormous progress under some of the most difficult circumstances and in the face of arguably the most cynical obstructionism in our nation's history. I approve this message.

And that's the problem with America.
-TPP
-freedom act
-admitted to NSA spying
-continued ME involvement, more dead soldiers
-furthering wealth gap
-big banks more powerful than ever
-more troops being sent into Africa
-forced to show hand when Russai intervened in Syria


This is not the resume of a great President.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

-AP scandal
-degrading race relations during his terms
-military upgrade to police
-Guantanamo bay still open
-rise of ISIL
-embarrassed by Putin multiple times


This is not the resume of a great President.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Lots of ODS in this thread.

 

[QChawks]

Greatest POTUS ever

 

[JRHawk2003]

Embarassed by Putin? Huh.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Embarassed by Putin? Huh.

What do you call being forced from your plans, because Putin ordered strikes against Al Quaeda, whom the US is at war with, and who was fighting Syria with US backing?

That's called getting your own sins turned on you by another bad guy, and not being able to make an argument against it, because you can't.

Let me guess, you've never thought nor heard of this?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Greatest POTUS ever

Too obvious of a troll post. Try again.

 

[Raglefant]

-AP scandal
-degrading race relations during his terms
-military upgrade to police
-Guantanamo bay still open
-rise of ISIL
-embarrassed by Putin multiple times


This is not the resume of a great President.

You don't think a huge list of negative things could be made that happened during every presidency? It's a big country, government, and world. Based on the hand he was dealt, history will show his resume to be exceptional. I acknowledge completely that there is a massive list of negatives, but YOUR list is ridiculous.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

You don't think a huge list of negative things could be made that happened during every presidency? It's a big country, government, and world. Based on the hand he was dealt, history will show his resume to be exceptional. I acknowledge completely that there is a massive list of negatives, but YOUR list is ridiculous.

I know right? It's completely ridiculous that people want to call this guy great when the only thing he was great at was ordering up the drone bombing of women and children.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ikes-in-Pakistan-since-start-of-campaign.html

 

[Raglefant]

I know right? It's completely ridiculous that people want to call this guy great when the only thing he was great at was ordering up the drone bombing of women and children.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ikes-in-Pakistan-since-start-of-campaign.html

 

[HawktimusPrime]

You're no daisy Ragle, you're no daisy at all.

 

[joelbc1]

I learned along time ago to never listen to an opponent tell me what is wrong with my side. Generally, these critics are full of shit and wouldn't recognize a fact if it hit them in the face.
The Dems have a long and storied history of in-fighting and being unorganized. Today's Dems are no different than the Dems of FDR or LBJ. The GOP folks will tell you that Dems are first cousins to the Devil (no not you, The Devil). In spite of all the shortcomings the Dems have, they still win general elections and have guided the nation forward ever since the Great Depression.
Piss ans moan Rockeye...you're just showing how ignorant you (and ypurs) really are. By the way...do you and yours have an idea to "fix" things...or do you just prefer to sit on the sidelines and kibitz?

 

[HawktimusPrime]

I learned along time ago to never listen to an opponent tell me what is wrong with my side. Generally, these critics are full of shit and wouldn't recognize a fact if it hit them in the face.
?

Lol, give it up Joel. Do you even read what you type?

All you've said is that you're purposely stubborn and ignorant.

 

[Hawkeye_311]

Obama has just about ran this freaking chart off the dam page.

 

[joelbc1]

Obama has just about ran this freaking chart off the dam page.

There is a real simple explanation for the huge rise in the deficit...but trying to explain it (to you) would accomplish about as much as pissing into the wind.

 

[Hawkeye_311]

Yes the first Kenyan born Muslim president has done an outstanding job in all areas. I would add an extra $20,000,000 to his unfunded government pension plan.

 

[Hawkeye_311]

There is a real simple explanation for the huge rise in the deficit...but trying to explain it (to you) would accomplish about as much as pissing into the wind.

We know all about pissing in the wind, our country has been doing it for 8 years now.

 

[Raglefant]

Lol, give it up Joel. Do you even read what you type?

All you've said is that you're purposely stubborn and ignorant.

Stubborn and ignorant you say?

 

[joelbc1]

We know all about pissing in the wind, our country has been doing it for 8 years now.

How old are you Hawkeye? 8 years old? Junior really FU this nation. He handed Obama a reaL SOUP SANDWICH.

 

[Raglefant]

Yes the first Kenyan born Muslim president has done an outstanding job in all areas. I would add an extra $20,000,000 to his unfunded government pension plan.

Well everybody got opinion that's loud and unbending. I spend my time healing and mending. I can tell you're like, in your face. I bet it feels so good.

 

[joelbc1]

Yes the first Kenyan born Muslim president has done an outstanding job in all areas. I would add an extra $20,000,000 to his unfunded government pension plan.

That number is peanuts when compared to Junior's unfunded war budget.

 

[HawktimusPrime]

Stubborn and ignorant you say?

Yes

 

[HawktimusPrime]

That number is peanuts when compared to Junior's unfunded war budget.

You mean the war budget Obama is currently using?

 

[Raglefant]

Yes

 

[HawktimusPrime]

I'm beginning to believe you are not as reasonable as you seem. You come off kind of pouty. It's okay, we're not all going to fully evolve into adults in this lifetime. The #$# is an adult anyways? What does that even mean Ragle Rock?

 

[jamesvanderwulf]

Universal health care - nope

Greatly reduce defense spending - nope

End to all military involvements - nope

Greatly expanded taxes on the rich - nope
New regulations on "Wall Street" - nope

CEO pay limits -nope

Free college -nope

Massive increase in fight against climate change nope

Greater wealth equality - nope

Lift the cap on SS taxes -nope

Increase in SS benefits nope

Easier for unions to operate and start - nope

 

[Raglefant]

Universal health care - nope

Greatly reduce defense spending - nope

End to all military involvements - nope

Greatly expanded taxes on the rich - nope
New regulations on "Wall Street" - nope

CEO pay limits -nope

Free college -nope

Massive increase in fight against climate change nope

Greater wealth equality - nope

Lift the cap on SS taxes -nope

Increase in SS benefits nope

Easier for unions to operate and start - nope

Executive order abolishing term limits, declare Marshall law, & UN led occupation of America - TBD?????