What if Trump refuses to concede?

haw-key

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He has been asked to supply evidence of widespread mail in fraud but can't find any. At that point it is clear he is basing these fears on his gut instead of any rational reality.
That’s a joke. People need to show up at the polls or request an absentee ballot like we’ve done for generations. No new systems ought to be trialed during a time of such upheaval.
 

pjhawk

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Because he is worried, and rightfully so, about the integrity of our elections. That’s what matters right? Mail in ballots will be a disaster for all involved. You can protest you can go to the polls. Hell we won’t have any idea who won the election for weeks. This won’t be good for the country.
Trump, his family, and much of his administration vote by mail. Why is this option appropriate for them but not the mass bulk of the public?

And there is little to no evidence of a risk of fraud per mail-in ballots. Whole states conduct elections via that method. But you know that already. It seems as if we're reaching the point where Republicans like you are going full fascist and regarding any vote not cast for Trump as fraudulent.
 

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Hilarious to read HROT conservatives attempt to gaslight us, when 45*’s comments are clear as day. He likely won’t concede and will attempt to undermine the election. Sadly, MAGAts will support him every step of the way, like the cult they are.
Oh cmon! Several of them are on record as Biden supporters!
 

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I hope someday you have sex with a woman, and then have kids, and then have to explain to them how you were one day so scared that Donald Trump might not leave office peacefully.
 
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Trump, his family, and much of his administration vote by mail. Why is this option appropriate for them but not the mass bulk of the public?

And there is little to no evidence of a risk of fraud per mail-in ballots. Whole states conduct elections via that method. But you know that already. It seems as if we're reaching the point where Republicans like you are going full fascist and regarding any vote not cast for Trump as fraudulent.
I dont think you know what fascist means.

And please draw a distinction between mail in ballots and absentee ballots because it’s a distinction worth making that you are clearly trying to avoid.
 

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That’s a joke. People need to show up at the polls or request an absentee ballot like we’ve done for generations. No new systems ought to be trialed during a time of such upheaval.
You just avoided the argument and introduced a new and wildly flawed one.

Trump and you claim mail in fraud. Trump has the entire government at his disposal to find this fraud. Yet he cannot find what he asserts. So unless he can somehow find this evidence, he has no grounds for his claim.

As for mail in voting, we have always had it. Even Trump and his family vote by mail. Because it works. So your new argument makes no sense.
 

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I dont think you know what fascist means.

And please draw a distinction between mail in ballots and absentee ballots because it’s a distinction worth making that you are clearly trying to avoid.
Oh, I know exactly what a fascist is, which is why I posted what I did, a major component of it is questioning the legitimacy of democratic elections, which you are doing in this thread.

There is no distinction between mail-in ballots and absentee ballots. Can you define a distinction? Look at Iowa, how is Iowa changing the way it does elections in what you consider to be an illegitimate manner? Or for that matter, any other states?
 

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I really want Biden to win, but I am really worried what Trump and his followers will do if he loses. These are dangerous times. I believe if Trump wins again this could be the end of the USA we know. I also believe if Trump loses, this could be the end of the USA we know. These are dangerous times.
You’re worried about what 80 year old Trump voters will do if he loses?Are you not worried about what the people out there killing cops and burning down buildings as we speak will do if Biden loses?
 
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You just avoided the argument and introduced a new and wildly flawed one.

Trump and you claim mail in fraud. Trump has the entire government at his disposal to find this fraud. Yet he cannot find what he asserts. So unless he can somehow find this evidence, he has no grounds for his claim.

As for mail in voting, we have always had it. Even Trump and his family vote by mail. Because it works. So your new argument makes no sense.
Of course it makes sense when you actually understand the process. You either don’t understand it at best or obfuscate the truth at worst.

One has to actually fill in personally and mail in a absentee request. Then your ballot is sent. That verifies the person is alive, on the rolls, and desires to vote in that format. I’m ok with that.
blanket mail in ballots sent to every address I’m not. That methid I suspect will be rife with fraud.

The reason he can’t yet point to fraud is.....wait for it.......it isn’t Election Day yet! But if he points to what appears to be fraudulent activity after Election Day then he’s not accepting the results of the election. So, see, your position is oerfect if you’re a cheating fraud, you can assert that both are anti election both before and after the ejection no matter how Trump chooses to fight this fight.

What is wrong with just going to the polls as always? Not ideal but been our system for years. Largely works.
 

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Oh, I know exactly what a fascist is, which is why I posted what I did, a major component of it is questioning the legitimacy of democratic elections, which you are doing in this thread.

There is no distinction between mail-in ballots and absentee ballots. Can you define a distinction? Look at Iowa, how is Iowa changing the way it does elections in what you consider to be an illegitimate manner? Or for that matter, any other states?
Read my reply to Huey
 

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Of course it makes sense when you actually understand the process. You either don’t understand it at best or obfuscate the truth at worst.

One has to actually fill in personally and mail in a absentee request. Then your ballot is sent. That verifies the person is alive, on the rolls, and desires to vote in that format. I’m ok with that.
blanket mail in ballots sent to every address I’m not. That is ripe for fraud.

The reason he can’t yet point to fraud is.....wait for it.......it isn’t Election Day yet! But if he points to what appears to be fraudulent activity after Election Day then he’s not accepting the results of the election. So, see, your position is oerfect if you’re a cheating fraud, you can assert that both are anti election both before and after the ejection no matter how Trump chooses to fight this fight.

What is wrong with just going to the polls as always? Not ideal but been our system for years. Largely works.
Where are people being sent unsolicited ballots? I've received a trillion mailers asking if I want to vote by mail at my address where I'm a registered voter. Not a single ballot yet. Because I haven't asked for one.
 

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Where are people being sent unsolicited ballots? I've received a trillion mailers asking if I want to vote by mail at my address where I'm a registered voter. Not a single ballot yet. Because I haven't asked for one.
That is the proposal. If none are actually done that way and it stays old school absentee I’m cool.
 

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Of course it makes sense when you actually understand the process. You either don’t understand it at best or obfuscate the truth at worst.

One has to actually fill in personally and mail in a absentee request. Then your ballot is sent. That verifies the person is alive, on the rolls, and desires to vote in that format. I’m ok with that.
blanket mail in ballots sent to every address I’m not. That methid I suspect will be rife with fraud.

The reason he can’t yet point to fraud is.....wait for it.......it isn’t Election Day yet! But if he points to what appears to be fraudulent activity after Election Day then he’s not accepting the results of the election. So, see, your position is oerfect if you’re a cheating fraud, you can assert that both are anti election both before and after the ejection no matter how Trump chooses to fight this fight.

What is wrong with just going to the polls as always? Not ideal but been our system for years. Largely works.
LOL, the claimed medical professional is asking "what is wrong with just going to the polls as always" during a freaking pandemic.

And a big part of the Republican strategy here is that the bulk of their support is in rural and suburban areas where there is generally enough precincts, places-to-vote that people don't have to wait in line for hours and hours to vote as they often do in urban areas.

Gaslighting, it's just endemic to fascists and Trump supporters. along with claims of voter fraud. Trump is going to claim fraud no matter what, he already is before barely any ballots have been cast yet. It doesn't matter to him how the ballots were cast, but he's going to use fraud as an excuse (and you'll parrot him for sure) to shut down and cast into doubt the validity of legally cast ballots. Disgusting.
 

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If he doesn't leave on Jan 20, the USSS needs to escort him out, in hand cuffs if necessary, and hand him over to the SDNY.
That they haven’t “accidentally” let him choke to death already should be all the evidence you need that they aren’t on our side.
 

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I really want Biden to win, but I am really worried what Trump and his followers will do if he loses. These are dangerous times. I believe if Trump wins again this could be the end of the USA we know. I also believe if Trump loses, this could be the end of the USA we know. These are dangerous times.
If Trump wins our country is in for four really dark years. If Trump loses...his racist shitbag followers go back under the rocks they came out from.
 
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LOL, the claimed medical professional is asking "what is wrong with just going to the polls as always" during a freaking pandemic.

And a big part of the Republican strategy here is that the bulk of their support is in rural and suburban areas where there is generally enough precincts, places-to-vote that people don't have to wait in line for hours and hours to vote as they often do in urban areas.

Gaslighting, it's just endemic to fascists and Trump supporters. along with claims of voter fraud. Trump is going to claim fraud no matter what, he already is before barely any ballots have been cast yet. It doesn't matter to him how the ballots were cast, but he's going to use fraud as an excuse (and you'll parrot him for sure) to shut down and cast into doubt the validity of legally cast ballots. Disgusting.
.... So request an absentee ballot. That option is available. People are arguing about unsolicited ballots being sent out....that is what can/will lead to fraud.
 

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Because he is worried, and rightfully so, about the integrity of our elections. That’s what matters right? Mail in ballots will be a disaster for all involved. You can protest you can go to the polls. Hell we won’t have any idea who won the election for weeks. This won’t be good for the country.
We've been mailing in ballots for decades you lying sack of shit. It's not something new. The GOP was apoplectic that illegal military ballots WOULDN'T be counted in Florida in 2000 - so they were. So take your bullshit and stuff it right down your throat. Choke on it.
 

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That is the proposal. If none are actually done that way and it stays old school absentee I’m cool.
Then why all the consternation over something that hasn’t happened?

The largest incident of voter fraud was by a GOP operative in North Carolina.

Seems that the people who would have the most concern are those planning on voting for democrats.
 
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We've been mailing in ballots for decades you lying sack of shit. It's not something new. The GOP was apoplectic that illegal military ballots WOULDN'T be counted in Florida in 2000 - so they were. So take your bullshit and stuff it right down your throat. Choke on it.
That is why judges right here in Iowa ar saying you are full of shit. Absentee ballots work just fine. Use that system.

The left sure feels the need to shove a narrative for people that are so confident about victory....
 

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That is why judges right here in Iowa ar saying you are full of shit. Absentee ballots work just fine. Use that system.

The left sure feels the need to shove a narrative for people that are so confident about victory....
That’s not at all what the rulings have been about. Which, in principle, I actually agree with.

If Trump thought he had support from the majority of the voters, he shouldn’t be concerned.
 
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Of course it makes sense when you actually understand the process. You either don’t understand it at best or obfuscate the truth at worst.

One has to actually fill in personally and mail in a absentee request. Then your ballot is sent. That verifies the person is alive, on the rolls, and desires to vote in that format. I’m ok with that.
blanket mail in ballots sent to every address I’m not. That methid I suspect will be rife with fraud.

The reason he can’t yet point to fraud is.....wait for it.......it isn’t Election Day yet! But if he points to what appears to be fraudulent activity after Election Day then he’s not accepting the results of the election. So, see, your position is oerfect if you’re a cheating fraud, you can assert that both are anti election both before and after the ejection no matter how Trump chooses to fight this fight.

What is wrong with just going to the polls as always? Not ideal but been our system for years. Largely works.
Do you realize there are states that use mail in ballots almost exclusively? Wouldn’t fraud have been rampant in those states in the past? Or is this the first heated presidential election where people would be willing to cheat.
 

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That is why judges right here in Iowa ar saying you are full of shit. Absentee ballots work just fine. Use that system.

The left sure feels the need to shove a narrative for people that are so confident about victory....
Absentee ballots ARE mail in ballots, dolt. As for the rest, you're the one trying to screw up a system and then "shove a narrative" that the system is screwed up. So - again - choke on it.
 

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That is why judges right here in Iowa ar saying you are full of shit. Absentee ballots work just fine. Use that system.

The left sure feels the need to shove a narrative for people that are so confident about victory....
Dude. All that the court cases in Iowa have been about is absentee ballot APPLICATIONS, and whether individual counties can pre-fill in information for voters.
 
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If he doesn't leave on Jan 20, the USSS needs to escort him out, in hand cuffs if necessary, and hand him over to the SDNY.
He isn't going to have to because it will be in the courts...which is precisely where he wants it. Along with the other Republicans in Congress.
 
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That is why judges right here in Iowa ar saying you are full of shit. Absentee ballots work just fine. Use that system.

The left sure feels the need to shove a narrative for people that are so confident about victory....
Explain the difference between absentee ballots and mail in ballots. Show your work.
 
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Four years ago we were under attack from a Central American horde of drug dealers & rapists. This year it's voter fraud that will steal an election.

But, he didn't want to people to panic about COVID. Uh, huh.
The caravan that was walking a thousand miles to invade the USA was for the midterms 2 years ago.