You make my puke with your half ass attempt. I'd ask you to be better but I can tell you can't.
What is bad with our BB facilities, etc.
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Iowa doesn’t allow athlete only dorms or at least they didn’t use to. They required a certain number of rooms be available for regular students.
I think with the new practice facility a few years ago they are right in the wheelhouse of where you want to be. The problem is they only caught up and didnt go beyond that.
The other issue with BB is I think we actually do run a clean program. Most big time winning programs aren't playing by the same rules, so I guess it depends on how bad we want to win.
The other issue with BB is I think we actually do run a clean program. Most big time winning programs aren't playing by the same rules, so I guess it depends on how bad we want to win.
Sorry I didn’t know that. They had Maxwell handling way too many sports In my opinion. So he is men’s basketball only? Who is it?
This is true, and it was greatly publicized and reported. Much discussed, too. I am really surprised that any "fan" wouldn't know that, and someone who says he "knows" Bill Maxwell should know this. Either that or he knows him but never talks to him.
‘Sorry I replied in the first place. Didn’t mean for them to sound so derogator.y Yes, I guess my perspective is very outdated as someone else corrected me that they now also have men’s basketball only strength coach. I said I talked with Bill back in the Alford days. Heck, first met him back in the Dr. Tom days so again my perspective is outdated. in those days I was an assistant coach at a small college that also handled strength coach duties. i have toured the new football and baseball facilities and envious of how good the current players have it compared to what players of my time had. Been over 20 years since I’ve toured the basketball facilities or talked with anyone involved in the basketball program so I guess I should have kept my mouth shut. I bleed black and gold and want nothing more than to see Iowa’s basketball program rise. I just don‘t think the answer is firing Fran and need to look at some of the list that iahawks10 posted to improv.
Maxwell is men's basketball, men's golf, and women's golf. He's been with the program since 1997.
Hmm...so the coach is paid as a lower tier B10 coach and the job/facilities are considered even worse, yet many posters wonder why kids or higher-profile coaches won't come here? Doh!According to this article from 2 years ago. Iowa has the third worst faculties. This was voted on by B10 coaches.
So Fran was giving tours? You have to have a key code to get in. Video of Aaron White shows that.
I kind of meant it this way. No, I’m not a fan. Only a guy that broke a letter of intent to walk on at dream school Iowa, fly a tigerhawk flag under my American flag, named my dog after a Hawkeye legend, and might add that I do not live in Iowa and fly my tigerhawk flag upside down after every Hawkeye football loss. Think you could have picked up on my sarcasm.................So doughuddl says above that Iowa hired a basketball only strength coach 10 years ago. This is incorrect? But they did take away many of the other sports so he can concentrate more on basketball? Golf is no big deal because back in 97 I believe he had baseball, women’s basketbal, track, among others.
Based on Iowa's website, Maxwell is only Men's basketball and the two golf teams. Not many athletes to watch over and the seasons don't have much overlap, not that it would make a difference. And as far as I could see, Maxwell is the only basketball strength and conditioning coach. Not sure who Doughuddl was talking about.
And sometimes sarcasm is harder to detect with the number of trolls who post on this site.
Either way, it's cool. Wear 'em proudly! Once a Hawkeye, always a Hawkeye!
The training facility is modern. That new annex was added to CHA less than a decade ago. There may be more room for basketball or other sports to utilize when wrestling vacates to their new facility in a couple years. Carver may not have as many fancy toys as MSU or Kansas, but Iowa is not those programs so they shouldn't.
CHA itself needs to find ways to modernize through renovations, but doing that could be really costly during a time where acquiring funding will be difficult. That's more of a fan atmosphere and experience gripe, but that could play into recruiting too.
The main structural supports in CHA are along the concourse, and they support the roof. You cannot mess with those supports, however you could build out around the arena to expand the concourse, giving more space for permanent or temporary food vendors, or add/expand bathrooms (like Hilton has partially done). You could feasibly build private suites at the top of the concourse if the concourse were widened. Going to Assembly Hall Champaign route of building suites halfway up/down the arena seems less feasible in terms of access since CHA is a bowl built into the earth.
CHA itself needs to find ways to modernize through renovations, but doing that could be really costly during a time where acquiring funding will be difficult. That's more of a fan atmosphere and experience gripe, but that could play into recruiting too.
The main structural supports in CHA are along the concourse, and they support the roof. You cannot mess with those supports, however you could build out around the arena to expand the concourse, giving more space for permanent or temporary food vendors, or add/expand bathrooms (like Hilton has partially done). You could feasibly build private suites at the top of the concourse if the concourse were widened. Going to Assembly Hall Champaign route of building suites halfway up/down the arena seems less feasible in terms of access since CHA is a bowl built into the earth.
My point was when the new facility opened Aaron White was shown going in using a key code or hand print to unlock the door. I find it hard to believe Iowa gave tours to their opponents to visit their practice facility and be able to rate it. But whatever.
I'm a skeptic of a guy from Massachusetts in his words, polling a handful of veteran coaches.
$47M 10 years ago.
New-look Carver-Hawkeye Arena puts basketball programs in awe (with Sports Desk video)
IOWA CITY – Carver-Hawkeye Arena remains stuffy and muggy at all times of day, even in the morning. When it …
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I haven’t got that far yet. I’m still puzzled on the results.
Lower tier paid coach. Lower tier recruiting. Lower tier facilities, budget, resources ect. Results are mid to upper tier and we’re ready to run our coach out of town like it’s the late 90’s again.
Edit: @hawkeyeinmo is one of the good ones.
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This is true, and it was greatly publicized and reported. Much discussed, too. I am really surprised that any "fan" wouldn't know that, and someone who says he "knows" Bill Maxwell should know this. Either that or he knows him but never talks to him.
No, it is not true. Teams still do compete for court time and there are times when they don't get the practice schedule they want.
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Wasn't it Jim Calhoun that did a game here a couple of years ago and spoke about how nice the Iowa facilities were? I think he said he had never been here before and was really impressed. And I know Steve Bardo has said a number of times how nice Carver still was given how long ago he had played in it.
I will say, Iowa being 14th for recruiting base isn't right anymore. I'm not saying Iowa is #1 but we have had much, much better players come out of the state recently.
Looks pretty darn good to me too. A prospective student athlete could do far worse than that.
Who would you rank Iowa above in recruiting base, Nebraska, maybe?
Certainly not Minnesota, either Michigans, PU or IU, OSU, ILL, N’western, Maryland, or Rutgers.
That leaves possibly PSU and Wisconsin. Penn St is three hours in any direction from a major US city (NYC, Baltimore and DC, Phila, Pitt) and Wisconsin is basically Iowa with a major US City (Milwaukee) 45 minutes-an hour down the road. Iowa’s recruiting base is no better than 13th, at best.
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I’ll do the leg work, but let you decide for yourself.
Nebraska:
plus Pinnacle Bank Arena opened in 2013
Minnesota / Athletes Village:
Wisconsin:
Kohl Center opened in 1998
https://uwbadgers.com/sports/2015/8/21/GEN_2014010135.aspx
Illinois:
https://fightingillini.com/facilities/ubben-basketball-complex/16
N’western:
Purdue:
Indiana:
Michigan:
MSU:
OSU:
Plus Value City Arena
Maryland:
Not much in terms of practice facilities, but the Xfinity Center is pretty nice.
Penn State:
Plus a newer(ish) arena
Rutgers:
I can see Michigan, Purdue, Indiana, Ohio State and Michigan State having better facilities partly due to the success they have had -- they are the cream of the crop and have additional big money basketball donors and basketball alumni behind them. The oddity is Nebraska -- no success and no basketball alumni to speak of. Iowa's facilities (at least what they show) is average at best. Is this because of lack of university support, lack of alumni support, lack of big money basketball donors....? Have the coaches spoken out regarding the need to "keep up with the Jones"? I still think what lures top recruits to a university is more about playing for championships and getting to the next level. Unfortunately this is where Iowa has fallen short.
IMO, Minnesota’s and Nebraska’s are well ahead too. The Barn, as much as I liked it, probably brings Minnesota down some just because it’s age. Their Athlete’s Village looks top notch.
I am in favor of a new Fieldhouse style arena to replace CHA. I wouldn't care if was a replica of the old fieldhouse with modern touches.
Nebraska actually did the smart thing in building a new arena for one. Then taking their old arena and chopped off the upper 4-5000 seats and turning it into a volleyball/wrestling and smaller basketball facility.
Carver is a nice building but it was built for wrestling(hosting natl Champ back then) and the main guide by Lute was to take out the entrance holes say in the middle and have seats there instead.
What we have now is a facility where the best seats are 40 rows down and then 40 rows back up to take a leak or get an ice cream(smiley) I am in row 11 and when I say 40 rows each one is actually 2 steps, I do not buy tickets for the exercise. there is a track that goes round the floor so the seats start quite a ways back. Just think if Kinnick had a track between the stands and the field. Many of the old fball stadiums had this--texas for one. and how that would change the game for fans.
It is hard to get to for the students, we run busses and they do not seem interested in coming unless we let them in for free.
I put in my 2 cents when we did the $40M upgrade and said at the time we should just make it $100M and go for a new thing but Barta thought lipstick was the better way to go.
I guess what I am saying is everything that makes Kinnick great , Carver is just the opposite..
It is against NCAA rules to have athletes only dorms(except Kentucky), or at least it used to be... There had to be 50% students....er non-athletes.
Kansas has the ones you're probably thinking about. Basically a resort for the athletes that they put a few non-athletes in to make it legal.
Which school would you say has a worse recruiting base than Iowa's? Only Nebraska has a smaller population and they have better facilities and a younger, more charismatic coach.
No, from what I've read, to get around NCAA regulations that it's impermissible to provide to athletes any benefits not allowed to average students, they do allow some regular students to share the lavish dorms they provide for their athletes.
That is basically the same as Kentucky's. They throw a few team managers, some tudors, walk-ons and call it a normal dorm.
Yes but I thought that was referring to the talent of kids in their area to recruit. We aren't higher than anyone other than Nebraska but I guess I was just wanting to give a nod to the talent the state has been developing.
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