Pelosi has thrown gas onto everything, also. You are good at pointing out things on one side and not admitting them about your own. The Democrats have not been willing to work with Trump at all. Trump has been as combative as Pelosi and I wish he would lessen his rhetoric. I don't think it helps him and is certainly an indication of his thin skin and ego. If Trump is elected, I do think Pelosi needs to go.
What will Biden do?
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Pelosi is already gone. That was part of the agreement to serve as Speaker. And the claim that the Dems under her leadership have refused to try and work with the GOP is bullshit.
Finance, I agree. It is important to stand by one's principles. Where Mitch (and Nancy at times, to be fair), falls short is that he refuses to compromise AT ALL.
"The primary functions of the Department of Education are to "establish policy for, administer and coordinate most federal assistance to education, collect data on US schools, and to enforce federal educational laws regarding privacy and civil rights."" - So basically for public education you want the national government to things they weren't chartered to do
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Titan, it doesn't happen often but I agree 100% with your post. If nothing else, having qualified people in the various cabinet positions will be a vast improvement.
"He has long been"...47 years long. Unfortunately for him, and America - his years are behind him...and he's lost about 60 of the 100 marbles all of us are issued when we're born. That is not a crime, nor is it a criticism. It's not uncommon. But he is a candidate for President of the United States, not the head of the shuffleboard competition committee at Shady Acres Rest Home.
Those who have propped him up as the Anyone But Trump candidate are not America First patriots. But that's not the focus, is it? This board is a little nest of slimy vipers whether acknowledged or not. Others are simply useful idiots.
This is a crossroads for the United States of America. I deeply fear for my grandchildren.
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I think the reason most outside the MAGA cult find them insane is their complete lack of self awareness and ability to hold a mirror up to their own worldview. Anyway, read your post again with a few minor edits.
If you hadn't already lost 90 of your 100 marbles you'd see how Trump is more intellectually limited than Biden. AINEC.
Disagree, and I was looking to see how long it took for you to redirect in the thread. You cannot ignore the four years of the destruction of shared norms and institutional values. You cannot ignore the gross incompetence, and placing people in charge of agencies they either detest, or spent a lifetime being paid as lobbyists to oppose. We should have a Secretary of Education who has had a least one job in their life before assuming an agency that handles billions of dollars and impacts so many lives. It will be enough to have someone in charge who can read and write above the 4th grade level, and who isn't morally bankrupt to the point that every decision they make is viewed through the prism of how does it benefit me? It is important that other countries respect us again, and view us as a stable, reliable partner.
That is something specific. Having anyone besides Donald Trump in the WH is a win right now. Valuing competence and having ethics in government will be important. We have to restore those things.
Specifics, I think Biden will push for infrastructure and climate change initiatives. I believe him when he says that is the biggest threat to the US, and the world right now. The US can lead instead of clinging to a dying coal industry. I believe he will be personally involved in choosing judges instead of handing off that task to Jerry Falwell Jr and a right wing think tank. I think he is going to push to balance our tax structure. Hint, at some point we are going to collapse under debt, or we are going to pay more taxes. That's a gift from DJT.
Competence and a lack of corruption up and down the Executive Branch will be enough for me, though.
It mainly depends on whether the Senate goes blue and, if so, whether the Senate Dems go nuclear.
Without both of those, Biden's ability to make needed change is handcuffed. Unless he's willing to declare a national emergency.
Without those, and if he doesn't declare a national emergency, he governs by EO and shifts limited money around to tackle the most critical needs. He'll have better people. So things will improve. But there's only so much he can do
Without both of those, Biden's ability to make needed change is handcuffed. Unless he's willing to declare a national emergency.
Without those, and if he doesn't declare a national emergency, he governs by EO and shifts limited money around to tackle the most critical needs. He'll have better people. So things will improve. But there's only so much he can do
So you should probably f*** off and never come back, don’t you think?
You think every now and then, right?
Put good government officials around him. People who actually believe in the value of their respective department. That’s enough for me.
As far as legislation, he won’t be able to do much unless the Senate flips.
As far as legislation, he won’t be able to do much unless the Senate flips.
This. If I don't read another post, this is what I want. Experts in their related areas, not dumbass family members and corporate CEOs with ginormous conflicts of interest in their areas.
I always appreciate your posts, man. I have to ask, isn't the highlighted part somewhat important? Trump is an a-hole, a narcissist and an adulterer that doesn't care about the military. On top of that, he isn't fiscally conservative by any standard. Why would you want four more years of it?
I have said many times I will hold my nose voting for Biden, but Trump is so repugnant, the White House will have to be cleaned, disinfected and deloused after he is gone.
There is no doubt in my mind that Biden will surround himself with the best people, that is enough for me.
You honestly think Trump will be better for your grandchildren?
The guy who promotes racism and violence? The guy whose policies are making global warming worse? The guy who can't figure out how to marshal America's vast resources to combat COVID? The guy who denies science and promotes lies?
This is the guy you think is good for your grandchildren?
I wish I shared your confidence. I fear he will invite JP Morgan/Goldman-Sachs to staff the Cabinet and set our economic policies. I hope I'm wrong.
He won't halt fracking. He has said he would block new drilling/mining/fracking on public lands, but not that he would interfere with existing operations - even those recently permitted by Trump's destruction of established, sound environmental protections. [Side note: if Biden wins, expect a flood of last-minute approvals of drilling/pipeline/etc. permits and a rush to break ground.]
Pretty sure he used to be for the TPP. So I expect he'll move the US to join that.
After defending his position on bankruptcy in the debates, it's reported he is now on board with Warren's accurate criticisms. But will he support reform? Ditto on private prisons and related bad policies he previously supported.
He has improved his green program, but it depends too much on corporate and state funding, so will it ever get off the ground, and how much compromising will he do on the corporate side?
Big Money and corporate media influences in elections need to be reined in, but is Biden the guy to do it - when he is seriously beholden to Big Money and the corporate media for his status as the Dem nominee?
Our courts need a dramatic infusion of pro rights, equal rights, environment-friendly judges and justices. Is Biden the guy to nominate them, or will he nominate more pro corporation judges?
Why, is one of them an attractive teenage girl, and Trump has lurked around her at Mar A Lago?
Donald Trump may as well be shitting into his hand and rubbing it on his face right now in this town hall. I think you guys are going to be surprised when Biden is more than up to the task of handling Strokahontas.
"herd mentality"
"herd mentality"
Oh, your grandchildren are screwed but you boomers got yours and left the world a shithole so not your problem.....right? Just remember as you are doing your righty duty and blaming it all on Dems that three of those fingers are pointing back at you. The supposed greatest generation spawned the most worthless one.....weird. Keep voting for climate deniers, your grandchildren will fix it I'm sure
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Blah, Blah, Blah,,,our people are better than your people, blah, blah, blah.
We have over regulated, lets try shrinking the government.
Don’t forget the pallets of cash to Iran so they could print up more Death to America signs.
Blah, Blah, Blah, Trump Sucks, blah, blah, trump sucks. What is Biden going to do?
Pelosi has introduced many many bills. Schumer doesn’t have that power. They are nothing like the do nothing Moscow Mitch.
Biden winning would create two positive changes:
1. Trump has put us in a place where we have lost our leadership standing as a world power among the other nations of the world. My foreign friends keep asking me "whats wrong with America", it is embarrassing. I think we start to get back a bit of that world standing.
2. Biden will not pit American against American via troll tweets like Trump does today. It may seem like I am picking on Trump here, and I am bc he deserves it, but this is a bid deal. The temperature in America needs to be cooled and frankly Trump is just a guy who turns up the heat.
3. Trump loses and the entire R party will have to go through a enormous re-branding and platform change and that will likely be beneficial as I don't think they will double down on Trump style of politicking. Sure some of his loyal MAGA politicians will go kicking and screaming over the next 10 years (people like Kim Reynolds) but there will be others who sided with him that I think the American public will hold accountable. Through that I think a new, younger, and rebranded group of R politicians will come out of that much like we have seen in the D party recently with their youth movement...personally I think we see a shift back towards the country club republican (Trump is the racist republican who happens to own a country club) who are clean cut, highly educated, and focused on actual fiscal constraints and limited govt.
Policy wise I do worry about Biden as I think raising taxes in a economy that is still a bit on its knees isn't a good idea economically and will slow job recovery. A large percentage of democrats want to raise taxes on the wealthy as more of a "we got you ****ers" vs smart economic policy. At the same time democrats will be clamoring for more big govt programs which won't help matters as well, as a combo of tax increases (which won't likely result in a lot more govt revenue during a time of high unemployment) and spending increases will balloon federal deficits faster than even Trump did (maybe, Trump loves deficits and his followers don't seem to care about them at all bc Trump is the one putting them up...god people are stupid).
We will likely stay in the ME with our military which is a losing proposition IMO. We will likely get softer on trade deals as this seems to be one area where Trump did ok compared to previous presidents.
Biden won't be a good POTUS, I am not sure things are set up for anyone to do a good job over the next 4 years, however we will at least get a bit of leadership shine back on the US seal.
Not be as big of an embarrassment to the American public on the national and world stage. We reelect Trump and China has the ammo it needs to further discredit the USD as the worlds reserve currency, we lose that and we are all effed.
A big part of that standing is confidence in how the US is being run, another 4 years of Trump and we just might lose it bc America will have 4 more years of chaos at the top.
It's not hard to introduce bills that have no chance of passage...
That's the issue with the Senate right now, anything passed by the House will not be considered. Thus the languishing recovery stimulus that is sorely needed for the economy. The Republicans can't even get themselves aligned. It's a cluster on that side of Congress.
