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What will "the autopsy" tell the Democrats? The final numbers: Trump 49.91%...Harris 48.43%...All others 1.66%

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* Voters were upset with the economy, of course. Would better messaging had helped?

* There were a lot of voters (Muslims, younger people, etc) upset that U.S.A. bombs were killing Palestinians. Voters were upset with the Biden administration's full support of Israel. Muslim Americans had an "abandon Biden" campaign where most on here dismissed this, calling these Muslims stupid and believing that there was not enough of them to affect the outcome.

* The border is a mess; everyone can see it. If a migrant got into the United States, he/she had an 85% chance of staying.

* Biden is mentally unfit (everyone knew it) & should have stated in 2022 that he was not seeking a 2nd term. Instead, Biden was forced out & Democrat leaders decided that Harris would be the voters' choice.

Would Trump had won if there had been a Democratic primary, where voters chose their nominee?

Did all of the above and Democrat leaders not listening to upset voters essentially cause the return of Trump?

Take a look at these numbers:

2,568,997: voted for neither Trump nor Harris
2,284,316: vote difference betw. Trump & Harris

The Final numbers:

Trump..........77,303,573.......(49.91%)
Harris...........75,019,257........(48.43%)
Stein..................782,528............(.51%)
Kennedy...........756,393............(.49%)
Oliver..................641,289............(.41%)
All Others.........388,787.............(.25%)
Totals..........154,891,827......(100.00%)
 
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Has the math been done to determine how many ballots left the choice for president open / blank?
That is where Harris loss resides, IMO.
 
Has the math been done to determine how many ballots left the choice for president open / blank?
That is where Harris loss resides, IMO.

Great point.

The numbers in the orig post are from those who voted for President. I would imagine there were A LOT of voters who filled out a ballot but left their choice for president blank.

2,568,997 voted for neither Trump nor Harris

How many left their choice blank?
 
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Great point.

The numbers in the orig post are from those who voted for President. I would imagine there were A LOT of voters who filled out a ballot but left their choice for president blank.

2,568,997 voted for neither Trump nor Harris

How many left their choice blank?

When you factor that the election was also won solely on swing states the difference to swing the election was miniscule. I heard 200k votes difference would have swung it the other way.
 
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When you factor that the election was also won solely on swing states the difference to swing the election was miniscule. I heard 200k votes difference would have swung it the other way.


As NPR's Domenico Montanaro has put it, "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College."
Of course, Trump is no stranger to narrow victories. He won the 2016 election thanks to just under 80,000 combined votes in three of those six key states.
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As Dave Wasserman, the well-regarded number cruncher for the Cook Political Report, noted, “the 2024 election was decided by 229,766 votes across Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin out of about 155.2 million cast nationally.”
If the Harris campaign had mobilized more base voters in those states—rather than squandering precious time on Republican-outreach events with Liz Cheney—they might well have made up the difference. Or, if they could had developed strategies to get just 114,884 working-class Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania voters to shift from Trump to Harris, the Democrat would have prevailed.
 
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