Figured you guys have seen a bunch of both and actually have beaten both this season. Who would you give the advantage to if this matchup happens (it does in my bracket anyway)? I haven't seen much of Iowa State but the impression I get is that they are perimeter oriented and like to run.
What would you guys predict in a Purdue vs Iowa State game in 2nd round?
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Iowa State better hit close to 50% of their threes or party over.
isu has 3 really good 3 point shooters and a inside player who can also hit from outside. They are a heavy drive and kick type of team. If Purdue plays solid defense and doesn't allow kick out for open 3's they can frustrate isu. Offensively If Purdue makes isu play a lot of defense that will also bode well as they don't like to play d for extended amounts of time. If you can get their big men in foul trouble you can win the game.
After last year though, PU needs to focus on their first game first.
After last year though, PU needs to focus on their first game first.
ISU lacks size inside, so would think Purdue's game plan would be to pound the ball inside to Swanigan and Haas, and hopefully get ISU into foul trouble. If Purdue is hitting from the outside, they'll win the game.
On the other hand, ISU will want to spread the court for guys like Morris, Mitrou-Long, and Burton to either shoot from outside or dribble drive, hoping to either get all the way to the rim, toss an alley-oop, or kick it out to an open shooter.
I'd bet on Purdue (please don't make me look stupid losing your first game!) as I think Purdue's guards are finally legit.
On the other hand, ISU will want to spread the court for guys like Morris, Mitrou-Long, and Burton to either shoot from outside or dribble drive, hoping to either get all the way to the rim, toss an alley-oop, or kick it out to an open shooter.
I'd bet on Purdue (please don't make me look stupid losing your first game!) as I think Purdue's guards are finally legit.
Agree but I am a fan with a bracket to fill out.
FWIW if you are looking for my input on our first round opponent I really like the Vermont matchup from the Purdue side. Starting to hear much talk of a Vermont upset and I don't see it. We played them last season in non conference and we won by 28. I'm sure teams have changed some since that time but many of the key players remain on both sides. Generally they don't fit the profile of the type of team that gives us problems but I never discount the possibility of Purdue beating itself like we did the past two years in the NCAA tournament and against Michigan in the BTT.
I just can't see ISU stopping Swanigan/Haas down low. They are good passers, too. If they double them down low it'll be up to Purdue guards to knock down the three.
Purdue is good on defense especially with their guards.
Purdue 74 ISU 69
Purdue is good on defense especially with their guards.
Purdue 74 ISU 69
Not many teams have made us run this year although many have probably tried. If we turn the ball over that's really the best time to take advantage of us (or really anyone) in transition. Otherwise I'm not as worried about it. We have not been pressed successfully this season in my opinion. Our guards are much better against it than last year when Iowa beat us with it twice.
ISU doesn't press much. We play straight man to man half court and some zone to mix it up.
I know this will sound really obvious but it all depends on what team gets the other team to play their game. If ISU can get purdue to try and get into a up and down shootout they will win, because Purdue is not as athletic and won't be able to keep up with ISU. If ISU is not hitting their 3's and Purdue pounds the ball inside they will win. with Hass and Swannigan down low they should dominate down low and the rebounding advantage. I think Purdue will win because of their size and Swannigan should be able to keep Burton in check. Either way I see this as pretty much a coin flip but I think Purdue pulls it out late 78-71.
If isu is hitting their threes and Burton keeps playing like he is i like isu. Burton is a beast and a mismatch for about every guy they try putting on him. Isu is do for and off game although so who knows
Nevada looks like ISU lite, kinda like Iona last year. I think ISU will roll.
Thanks for the projections. Seems like a few more people think Purdue than Iowa State here and from the comments about how Iowa State plays that's how I'm leaning too. It's a 4/5 game (if it happens) though and if you played it 10 times each team would probably win at least 3-5 of them.
Good luck in the NIT. Was cheering for you to beat Indiana in the BTT and get in the NCAA too but I doubt you'll be missing the NCAA tournament again any time soon.
Good luck in the NIT. Was cheering for you to beat Indiana in the BTT and get in the NCAA too but I doubt you'll be missing the NCAA tournament again any time soon.
Hard to say, I actually think Swanigan is more capable of guarding Burton than many that ISU has faced this year (if he and Haas are both in so Haas is playing the 5)
Not sure I'd call Iowa a "drive and kick" team.
I think the crowd will be interesting as well. This game is in Milwaukee, correct? If so, that will almost be Hilton north, very reasonable drive for cyclones.
Morris will have a field day and they will win by double figures over Purdue. I am just saying this because every time I make a prediction it goes the other way. lol
It's 350 miles from Ames to Milwaukee and 220 miles from West Lafayette. About 2 hours more reasonable of a drive for Purdue fans.
Isn't Minnesota also playing in Milwaukee? I don't think there will be any team with a majority of fans there. That said, ISU fans will certainly travel, and they should. This is their last chance to go beyond the sweet 16 for a while (my guess).
I've noticed during the year cruising a couple of their boards...Purdue fans don't seem to sink a whole lot of faith into Painter as far as taking them to the next level nationally. They've gotten to the Sweet 16 twice under him and lost both times. Last appearance is 2010.
Given their inconsistency this year, it's entirely possible they catch a case of the Purdon't in the round of 32, assuming they get there. Lost last two NCAA appearances in OT, last year in the first round to UALR in 2OT.
Say the match-up occurs...I'm betting it goes down to the last possession - so call it a toss-up.
Given their inconsistency this year, it's entirely possible they catch a case of the Purdon't in the round of 32, assuming they get there. Lost last two NCAA appearances in OT, last year in the first round to UALR in 2OT.
Say the match-up occurs...I'm betting it goes down to the last possession - so call it a toss-up.
I predict Monte Morris and Matt Thomas simultaneously run into an Isaac Haas screen resulting in both being concussed. Deonte Burton then takes over PG duties and leads Iowa State with 12 points, 6 assists, and 39 turnovers.
I think the matchup favors Iowa State, especially with Purdue's tournament troubles.
Agreed , Purdue will have lots of problems with ISU's guards. Burton also will be a difficult matchup for them. I think the outcome will be decided by who controls the tempo. A slower paced game would favor Purdue, with their size inside. An up and down the court game would definitely favor ISU.
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