What's taking so long with the Speaker of the House job?
- Thread starter Huey Grey
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It's pretty much a political dead end job. Who in their right mind would want to have to deal with the tantrum throwing "Freedom" caucus Republicans who would rather do great harm to the country than actually govern responsibly.
They're all waiting to see what Joe Biden does.
John Boehner will finish out the year, because nobody
else wants the job. The Freedom Forty have actually
weakened their position with Boehner as Speaker by
default. In the meantime Paul Ryan is sleeping well
at nights and has no headaches.
else wants the job. The Freedom Forty have actually
weakened their position with Boehner as Speaker by
default. In the meantime Paul Ryan is sleeping well
at nights and has no headaches.
Without Capitalism and those CONS, you wouldn't be part of the greatest country in the world. You think those pussy liberals would get anything done? They fight for the right to do nothing and be nothing.
I don't seem to recall a hue and cry over how good Nancy Pelosi was, either.
You can yell all you want about the republicans being disfunctional, but let's face it. Being the top banana nowadays in American politics no matter the job/level means you're villified from both sides every minute of every day in your tenure.
Who in their right mind wants a job like that?
You can yell all you want about the republicans being disfunctional, but let's face it. Being the top banana nowadays in American politics no matter the job/level means you're villified from both sides every minute of every day in your tenure.
Who in their right mind wants a job like that?
You can say whatever you want about Pelosi being good, she was certainly effective. The Democrats were able to present a united front and get legislation passed. Certainly more effective than any Republican speaker since Gingrich.
You'll have plenty of time to rail on whoever gets the nod on a daily basis. Patience, sheep. Patience.
Yep. They bribed about a dozen Democrats to vote yes on the ACA. SHe knew when to pull out the wallet (figuratively).
I don't seem to recall a hue and cry over how good Nancy Pelosi was, either.
You can yell all you want about the republicans being disfunctional, but let's face it. Being the top banana nowadays in American politics no matter the job/level means you're villified from both sides every minute of every day in your tenure.
Who in their right mind wants a job like that?
You can yell all you want about the republicans being disfunctional, but let's face it. Being the top banana nowadays in American politics no matter the job/level means you're villified from both sides every minute of every day in your tenure.
Who in their right mind wants a job like that?
Excellent discussion on NPR this afternoon about this. They had a writer from Rolling Stone on and he went in depth how the Freedom 40, or whatever they call themselves, have gridlocked everything. They played some quotes from one of the few remaining moderate Republican's in the House. I want to say his name is Dent? He's from Pennsylvania and said right now the Republicans couldn't even win a vote to schedule a bathroom break.
I think Ryan is actually one of the "good guys" in Congress and would be an outstanding Speaker, for what its worth. However, I do believe 1) he has genuine concern regarding time away from his family, 2) "committee work" is much more suited for him now, 3) he understands what dangerous position "Speaker" might be with the current make-up of Congress and its radical right wing. I'm sure he wants the job but I am sure he feels he can be more effective doing what he's doing now. But, as JFK said...and I typed many a time....."Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their Party."
Ryan hasn't given up his dream of being President. Being Speaker of the House doesn't exclude a future run for President, but given the dysfunction of the House currently it wouldn't help much.
Only because Nancy was a dictator. And the problem with that is, the Dems won't criticize her in public because she will punish them making them a bunch of pussies.
Mob mentality runs deep in the Dem party with Nancy in control.
I'm guessing Ryan isn't all that confident that the GOP will retake the WH. If they don't... Ryan's job doesn't get any easier having to deal with a Dem Prez. He'd be getting heat from the wingers about fighting Hillary while knowing his legacy would be tarnished by an inability to unite the few reasonable Republicans with the "scorched earth" extremeists.
For a Party that has the majority in both the House and Senate... the GOP sure doesn't resemble a group with a clear vision for the country. Too much in-fighting has really weakened the Party leadership. Since Ryan already has a reputation of being a loser from his time with Romney... I doubt he wants another strike on the ole resume' of being the leader of a dysfunctional Republican Party.
For a Party that has the majority in both the House and Senate... the GOP sure doesn't resemble a group with a clear vision for the country. Too much in-fighting has really weakened the Party leadership. Since Ryan already has a reputation of being a loser from his time with Romney... I doubt he wants another strike on the ole resume' of being the leader of a dysfunctional Republican Party.
Please construct this house of cards.
As intended. Our system is based on bribery. That's why pork is needed. Transparency and authenticity are killing this nation.
Nope just one side of the aisle is running this.
In the current Congress, that's how stuff gets done. You don't have to like it, but she pushed through Democratic priorities.
And that right there is a big part of the problem in this country. Voters that actually believe one side has their best interest in mind.
Makes you wonder, if you could get ahold of every elected politician in DC and give them truth serum, and ask, "Do you vote what's best for the United States of America or do you vote what's best for your political party?" What percentage would be for the party?
In this way our politicians are really no different than the communist politburo of the Soviet Union. They voted party line and in their interests. The only difference is that we have two parties, with at least somewhat different viewpoints.
Then it should be easy to construct. Get to work if you think you can make the argument.
That is not the thought being expressed. I agree relying on the good will of either side is a fools errand. One needs to understand that representatives are hired workers paid by interest groups to do their will. For the most part, politicians do as they are paid to do. And right now just one team is in charge of congress and they are being paid by one coalition of interests to dismantle this nation. Your inability to realize this and cover it behind false equivalency is a big reason they are successful in rolling back most every policy that built America.
What's being rolled back because the GOP is in charge? I agree they are attempting to, but what have they actually accomplished? And even if the GOP quit their infighting and actually did push something through, the Dems in the Senate would just filibuster, or the POTUS would veto it.
So what has the GOP rolled back that is dismantling this nation?
The attempt is my point. I don't think it wise to give them credit for simply not yet being successful in their aims.
JB got got the House to end obamacare 50 times.
It was the Dems in the Senate that stopped it.
So actually he did everything Nancy ever did and more.
The Dem's had a 60 to 40 Senate for a year and could do anything they wanted to!
Why didnt they fix immigration then or give equal pay to women?
It was the Dems in the Senate that stopped it.
So actually he did everything Nancy ever did and more.
The Dem's had a 60 to 40 Senate for a year and could do anything they wanted to!
Why didnt they fix immigration then or give equal pay to women?
I think you could understand my confusion.
Your inability to realize this and cover it behind false equivalency is a big reason they are successful in rolling back most every policy that built America.
Lip service. They tell the voters what they want to hear, but rarely follow through. Mainly because they are bought an paid for as well.
The Democrats had complete control of the Senate for 4 months, of which the Senate was in session for 72 days. Remember that Franken wasn't seated until late that year because Republicans wouldn't give up the ghost. Kennedy was basically unavailable to be the 60th vote because of brain cancer. It wasn't until a replacement for Kennedy was named and Franken was seated did they get that 60th vote.
In that time frame they were able to pass some pretty sweeping legislation.
I would change that slightly to "do you vote for what's best for the US, your party or your backing sponsors?"
