With Marriage Equality in all 50 states (nutty Attorney Generals notwithstanding), are Transgender rights next on the docket?
What's the next Civil Rights fight?
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I bet there is a move to make the constitution not viewed as the covenant between American citizens and its government but as a universal declaration of human rights American government must apply everywhere in all dealings.
Freedom of Religion will be the next wave of fights.
Too many are trying to parlay a win for LGTB into an attack on organized religion.
Both can find a balance, but won't be able to because everything is so polar these days.
Too many are trying to parlay a win for LGTB into an attack on organized religion.
Both can find a balance, but won't be able to because everything is so polar these days.
this. this is exactly what my so called nutty attorney general knows is happening- so he feels like he must fight
On the other side, I think too many are taking this ruling as an attack on their religion, when their religion and rights to worship as they please have not been infringed in the least.
OK is being forced to remove the 10 Commandments from it's State Capital. Many conservative Christians on my FB feed are already claiming "oh, here we go..'murrica was founded on Christianity..those evil libs...herp derp". This is clearly not an attack on any religion, but an obvious and correct interpretation of the Establishment Clause.
State and religion should be respectfully separate.
they are coming after the church, mark my words. that is the plan. there will be tons of lawsuits saying "this pastor refused to marry us and it's our right", they proved it with the wedding cake. see, that's the problem with the supreme court trying to say it's a right. once it's a right, then actually the feds should start issuing the fed license and churches should render unto ceasar which is ceasar's.
Some Americans prefer weed to alcohol and I would wager that percentage is several times greater than the homosexuality rate.
it might be a civil right, to grow and smoke your own weed, I would say that it would be more of a civil right than half the other crap that people seem to think are rights.
Has to be post-birth "abortions" because of lack of self-awareness. Those pesky kids just don't fit with the progressive way of life.
Post birth abortions is a right wing policy already.
We should go after the churches....for taxes.
Agree, but isn't it a civil right to not be unfairly discriminated against regardless of where it came from?
Some things I would push hard for. Net necessarily social issues.
A flat tax.
Making the use of drugs like a speeding ticket. Sellers I would still bust pretty hard.
Campaign finance reform, end superpacks
End the Federal Reserve
End useless wars on terror.
Secure our boarders
Fix our failing infrastructure
These are just a few things right off the top of my head.
A flat tax.
Making the use of drugs like a speeding ticket. Sellers I would still bust pretty hard.
Campaign finance reform, end superpacks
End the Federal Reserve
End useless wars on terror.
Secure our boarders
Fix our failing infrastructure
These are just a few things right off the top of my head.
what, you mean if you grow it or if somebody else does? should be the same? I guess, I was just stating the fact that it grows naturally, not really meaning whom grows it
You want to wake a sleeping giant? They got the votes from 5 wacknuts to do their thing legally...I say they better pick up their rainbow colored checker board and head home.
Incorrect. The Constitution says "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion". Please explain how displaying the 10 Commandments equates a law made by Congress. And what religion is being "established".
This is a common error/misconception made by the uninformed public (and, sadly, too many lawyers/judges).
The Constitution is very clear on this...it isn't hard to understand.
This one in particular would be awesome, but politicians love themselves and their money too much for that to ever happen
This week SCOTUS ruled the citizens can take control of political duties from their elected officials. Maybe we just bypass the politicians and make it happen?
Would be nice but Americans are so polarized anymore, I don't think you could get the populace to come together for anything
I bet we could find common ground in not liking politicians and trimming their wings. It has a nice us vs. them feel to it.
Bullcrap. Without govt and politicians you wouldn't know what to do with yourself. You NEED govt to tell you what to do and what is right or wrong.
Not really a civil right but the wage gap and workers rights. We are already seeing unrest due to this and actually seeing some real push to deal with it.
Except, court case after court case is decided that says they must come down, as the government is endorsing a single religion. Federal law precedes State Law.
Now, if the state had erected a Star of David, passages from the Koran, a statue of Thor, Zues, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster, you may have an argument. But they didn't.
This is really, really simple stuff.
You know I like and respect you IMCC. However, this sounds like "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it anymore!" hyperbole.
Expressing yourself like that is fine in small doses. I hope it doesn't consume you, though, in a way that ends up dominating your response style.
Keep presenting facts and your interpretations of the legal proceedings. You have a unique style of posting that's very entertaining to me.
That's certainly a nice way of saying, "we all enjoy laughing at you".
The Constitution does not say the government can't endorse a religion, but that is beside the point. It only says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. That is word for word. Again.....explain to me how posting the 10 Commandments magically becomes a law passed by Congress. Court rulings aside (because courts are NEVER wrong), I want you to explain how posting the Commandments is a law passed by Congress.
You can't.
How is endorsing and respecting a religion different in your mind? What mechanism other than laws does the legislature have to to express the order that some bit of decoration should be placed on display? Your objections don't seem logical.
Explain how the state congress did not endorse a single religion by putting up the 10 Commandments, effectively establishing Christianity as the state religion.
Again, if they were willing to put up any and all monuments to all religions and atheists, I and the courts would have no issue with it. But they didn't.
Really, really simple stuff. And the fact that this is the same result every time stuff like that goes to court shows how obvious it is.
