When Brian becomes head coach in 2021 who are the coordinators?
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Why doesn’t Phil P. get the keys for a few years? He’s eight years younger than Kirk and has earned a shot.
I’d hate to see PP go anywhere else and that’s all I’ll say.....at this point.
Agreed. Brian hasn't put in enough time. A Power 5 head coaching job is something that a lot of coaches never achieve. It's quite an honor.
I somehow think Kirk is still going to be the coach in 2021, and a couple years beyond. But if he does hang it up, I will reserve judgement on Brian being the successor at that time. We will see how he handles his current assignment as OC. But if the Hawks take a step forward the next few years, I could support him.
The LA Rams coach kind of turned that notion inside out. I’m curious when a school will follow that course. Neb made that mistake (with not hiring Frost) with three years ago.
I think if Parker wanted to be a HC, he would’ve left already.
If there's a succession plan ... I could see it going to Phil every bit as likely as other folks see it going to Brian. I'd be willing to bet that Seth Wallace could essentially be a "DC in waiting."
Of course, that said, given Tim Polasek's background ... I could see the succession go to Brian and have Tim be the OC too.
No doubt. If he were at all interested in being a head coach, he would have been hired away by someone as DC probably ~2004, and almost certainly had an opportunity as HC by now. Being the head guy isn't for everyone; I suspect he is simply very comfortable where he is and has no further aspirations.
Not necessarily. He's a guy who really values family first - and he likely greatly appreciated the job security that he was afforded with Kirk as the head coach. With kids now grown ... he's likely in a position where he can take more professional risks and there is less concern about how it may impact his family.
Phil could have been a DC long before he was one at Iowa ... but, instead, he waited at Iowa until his opportunity arrived.
The primary reason why I could see Phil not wanting a head coaching gig is because he likes coaching the secondary too much. In his own words - he's stated how much he missed coaching them in 2012, during his first year at DC.
Is he someone that likes to have to smooze and deal with media a lot more and shake down people for coins????? Or does he just like dealing with football?
LOL. It sounds like you two are probably in agreement, yet you gave a long-winded rebuttal as to why he is wrong. Do you know my wife?
Not at all. I wasn't explaining why anyone was wrong - I was supplying context for the likely reason why Phil has done what he has done. My point was that "timing" mattered as it relates to Phil. Before, he was happy with how things were (for the sake of stability for his family) ... now, he was willing to embrace the challenge of being the DC. In the future, maybe he'll be more willing to take more "chances."
Fine point. You're totally right - Phil really doesn't seem to like glad-handing people. He's all about the football ... and he seemingly gets irritated by anything that takes away from that. My best friend has gone on some of the Hawkeye cruises before ... and Phil is all about the football.
By starting your post with "Not necessarily," you came off as unagreeable, despite everyone being in agreement on the topic. As I noted, I have a lot of experience being on the receiving end. That's all. Peace.
If I was in absolute disagreement ... the statement of the disagreement would be more emphatic. For instance, I could have written ... "That's totally wrong" ... or "That's totally inaccurate."
However, the statement "Not necessarily" is a "softer" disagreement ... it illustrates that there is substantial common ground.
Besides, there's nothing wrong with people not agreeing. What is important is that the discourse is civil AND that people are supplying evidence to support their arguments.
There is the empirical trend that illustrated Phil sticking as a position coach for something like 12 years. There was no vertical movement or lateral movement on his part for that entire duration.
However, over that period, he also had a family (with kids) that he didn't want to subject to the turmoil of moving all over the place. Traditionally, being a college coach can be a bit of journeyman's endeavor. That's obviously not an ideal scenario for a family man.
This is where the "not necessarily" came in ... because I would suggest that circumstances have changed for Phil. Consequently, while he clearly loves coaching for the Hawks ... he's also seemingly more receptive to moving up the coaching ladder too. This is evidenced by him taking on the DC gig back in 2012.
Of course, the common ground reasserted itself with me also acknowledging that Phil is all about the coaching ... all about the football. Thus, the concession that Phil would likely highly dislike many of the other aspects that go along with being the head coach.
Came in to the thread looking for this post and surprised it took so long before someone made the joke. Kudos to you sir!
But seriously, I think DC is Parker's if he wants it still and barring any staffing changes between now and then I'd say Polasek is the safest bet for OC. It would be very meh moves but ensure some stability, which is the Iowa way at this point for better or worse.
For the record (and I know this is the Iowa way and how will most likely play out), but I don't want the keys handed to anyone on the current staff without serious consideration being given to outside coaches. I want Iowa to hire the best available coach and not just hand the keys to someone who has been in the program.
I love Phil Parker ... But being a DC is a lot different than running the show. I think Brian is a very intelligent person. He still has a lot of work to do in order to slip into the head spot. I like that Brian is fiery ... Now, make us good on offense!
I love Phil Parker ... But being a DC is a lot different than running the show. I think Brian is a very intelligent person. He still has a lot of work to do in order to slip into the head spot. I like that Brian is fiery ... Now, make us good on offense!
For the record (and I know this is the Iowa way and how will most likely play out), but I don't want the keys handed to anyone on the current staff without serious consideration being given to outside coaches. I want Iowa to hire the best available coach and not just hand the keys to someone who has been in the program.
I love Phil Parker ... But being a DC is a lot different than running the show. I think Brian is a very intelligent person. He still has a lot of work to do in order to slip into the head spot. I like that Brian is fiery ... Now, make us good on offense!
Agreed Rustys. Brian Ferentz has to prove that he is at least a very good offensive coordinator before he is even considered as head coach. He has not made that impression as an OC yet.
Also agree with you that outside candidates should be considered. University of Iowa football is a big-money operation in a prestigious conference with a very loyal fan base. Gary Barta knows he has to get that hire right because football is where the money comes from. Plus Gary is a good guy and would not want to saddle his successor with a problem in football.
Yes, being OC for an offense ranked near the very bottom of FBS is certainly HC material. Good grief.
One thing that helps us keep our coaches is the fact we consistently recruit in the bottom half of the B1G. Not many Power 5 teams want to take a chance on a coach that hasn't proven he can recruit top talent unless they are system programs. Most system programs in Power 5 reside in the B1G West. Phil Parker while he has been a great DCord he's not a proven recruiter. I don't see Phil as the type to leave a Power 5 DCord position to go to a group of 6 school nor do I see him as a type that wants to go to say a Georgia to be DCord there. If Phil was bringing in 2,3,4 or more 4star or better recruits every year than you might see an Arkansas or Viriginia type Power 5 team offer him a HC job. Iowa runs a style of play that most Power 5 schools have abandoned.
If Scott Frost is even a grad assistant with the Iowa program in 2021 we’ll know how far our program has fallen.
Who knows how many years KF has left. He could hit 25 years or more. I do think that Phil Parker is best suited at the DC position and that BF will be the Head Coach barring egregious failure at the OC position. Need to retain some of the other good assistants we have right now for when the changeover occurs. SW is earning some good stripes right now and some of our newer guys are likely to prove they are very valuable as well. Polasek is already making big recruiting moves for us in Wisconsin.
