Brian O'Keefe at OC and Brian Parker at DC but if O'Keefe goes to the NFL it will be Brian Davis at OC.
When Brian becomes head coach in 2021 who are the coordinators?
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Brian needs to prove himself at the position he currently has. I was not impressed with him last year. He also needs to act like an adult vs loosing his cool and going on a swearing rampage in front of people. I don't think the team should be handed to him simply because he is KF's son. He needs to earn a head coaching position in the Big 10 just like any other coach.
As long as BF has success as OC he will be the HC. I would assume that anyone from the current staff would stay unless they wanted to retire or didn't get along with BF. I think KF, when he leaves, would like a seamless transition. So if BF has success then KF will want to leave BF in the best possible position he can. While I think KF is to reserved on the field, that will carry over to the transition and would be beneficial for continuity. I see this scenario. KF lets loose of the reigns as far as offense goes. BF has success(because he's on a job interview right now). KF feels the desire to retire coming. Whether or not that announcement is made a year in advance I don't know. The posting for the job is made and BF gets it. Recruits 2 and 3 years down the road have had contact with BF all along and they see a 60 something year old man whose done his job and wants to retire and are happy for him, then they see a 40ish year old man, who they know already,who wants to have success and they want to play for him.
I believe it was the HR podcast that talked about this a couple weeks ago. Paraphrasing. If they hawks win "7" games until KF retires Barta is likely fired in 2 years and the new guy brings in his crew. They picked like 3 or 4 years but said if KF wins 9 games and goes to indy he will get to set the stage for the next guy (BF) it seems like the middle ground is where it will get interesting. Personally I dont think GB last 3 years.
Interesting.
JMO, but Barta has the type of job security we all wish we had. If there were even whispers about him being fired Neil Cornrich would pick up the phone and remind them what will happen if Barta goes.
Ever since 2012 recruiting has incrementally improved. Brian and the other young guns brought in have energized recruiting. Kirk has always been good as spotting diamonds, but struggled with the 4/5 stars precisely because they usually come with egos that rarely are conducive to his style. BUT, the young guns are now stocking the program with the talent to put up 55 on the Buckeyes and 56 on the Cornhuskers.
I beat up on KF over the OOC but I'm also a fair man. Last year:
OOC:
wyoming - bowl winner (w)
cyclones - bowl winner (w)
north texas - bowl loser (w)
REGULAR SEASON:
Lions - bowl winner (L)
spartans - bowl winner (L)
wildcats - bowl winner (L)
buckeyes - bowl winner (W)
badgers - bowl winner (L)
purdue - bowl winner (L)
boston college - bowl loser (W)
Iowa played 10 bowl teams last year and produced a record of 8-5. That's pretty good. They also had a losing record in the west, that's bad.
In BFs first year you can argue his success both ways. Lots to be happy about, but offensive stats were Davis-like.
The training wheels are off this season. BF has Polasek/KOK to help him. This season could be special, and if it is BF will get 80% of the credit. KF will get 19% of the credit. Phil Parker will get 1% of the credit.
Most everyone is banking on future being bright with BF. BUT, you are right about something. If Barta were to go before KF retired, then BF likely isn't the next head coach. Of course this is speculation so I could be wrong. Time will tell.
This much I know, I saw some good things last year like the fake FG against the Buckeyes and plenty of depth on the roster. I also saw some bad things like 2 passes for Weigers during the entire season which doesn't help Iowa if the starter goes down.
Overall I expect to continue to see some trickeration that KF frowns on but BF doesn't. The more I see of that, the better Iowa's future looks.
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For the most part I believe BF was a pleasant surprise. And I expect he will get better. I agree with your part about losing his cool but I also love that fire. Just needs to control it and I doubt we see a repeat. I betcha his dad reamed him anew one over that.
This has been brought up numerous times, and its certainly valid, but is this a job, with extra pressure that PP wants? Certainly he's had other chances to be a head coach elsewhere. The mans worked at two schools for almost 30 years combined, I get the feeling he's happy where he is.
I'm not so sure that will happen. Phil's had chances to be a head coach. Maybe he would like the job at Iowa, and maybe he's happy making almost 3/4 of a million/yr not having that head ache. I don't really know, but I think he's happy doing just what he's doing now.
I'll bet that doesn't happen. I know many would like to paint that picture of nepotism, but its not likely. James is a much different person then Brian, and if he does go into coaching, I think you'll see him strike out on his own, and build his resume elsewhere.
I agree. I think you'll see some sort of succession plan as long as Barta is around, be it some current staff member. If Barta is gone I believe all bets are off.
Not interested in perceived nepotism in the least.
BF should go learn the head coaching ropes at a "mid-major" or FBS school first. Still plenty of time before his old man steps down. It won't be until 2024 at the earliest, and most likely not for a few years past that.
If KF does step down earlier than that, there is definitely an option to give PP the job in a transitional period before bringing BF (or someone else) in to fill the role long term.
BF should go learn the head coaching ropes at a "mid-major" or FBS school first. Still plenty of time before his old man steps down. It won't be until 2024 at the earliest, and most likely not for a few years past that.
If KF does step down earlier than that, there is definitely an option to give PP the job in a transitional period before bringing BF (or someone else) in to fill the role long term.
Unless Brian can do something with the offense, I don't want him as head coach. Iowa's offense last year was pathetic. (statistics don't lie)
Do you think whoever is our next head coach must have previous head coaching experience, or is that only necessary for Brian to avoid perceived nepotism?
I will almost gaurantee this, Wallace will be D coordinator when Parker hangs it up
Not a good idea for a Defense Secretary (Athletics Director) to promote a Colonel (Off Cord) straight to 4-Star General (P5 HC) after his 5-Star General father retires. Better if he is brought in from a 1 or 2-Star General role (FCS or mid major FBS HC) instead.
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Being a coordinator never mattered for Urban Meyer or Dabo Sweeney. On the NFL level Doug Pederson while being an OC never called that many plays for the chiefs, and just one the super bowl. Being a head coach is more about being able to influence and control an organization not I can call a good one side of the ball.
I am not saying coordinator is a must, but being good at whatever your role is. Therefore if Iowa’s offense sucks no thx on BF, if they flourish yes please
Wtf are you talking about? If Iowa’s offense does well please give BF Head Coach. Poleski (spell?) won a few titles at NDSU and Wallace at Valdosta St. Wallace was also offered a DC position at FCS and non P5 already so both makes sense. That is after Phil Parker retires or leaves on his own. Wallace learned under norm and Phil-yes please
WTF are you talking about?!
My analogy makes 1000% more sense than whatever you just attempted say.
This is about BF and whether he’ll be the best fit for the next HC without HC experience. I could care less about his potential success as OC...which has yet to be proven. Also not a fan of perceived nepotism, since it’s no secrect KF wants him to be his successor. Not to mention Barta would be more than willing to make that happen for his good friend. Stop ranting about Wallace and Poleski (so?)...they arent even a part of the discussion.
I have neither read nor heard a single word from Kirk Ferentz that supports his son as the next head coach at Iowa. If he wants Brian to be the next head coach, it certainly is a secret.
Just laying out what is going to happen buddy, if you don't like it then go be a fan of another team. I have never heard KF once even mention BF as a head coach. I would be 100% for it if I see improvement in the offense because I liked what I saw last year. BF is not like his dad personality wise- not sure why all the hate. Obviously you hate KF so not sure why you hate BF?
For the record, I don’t hate anyone, but I would like to see Barta dismissed for gross incompetence when it comes to negotiations ...and before he can hand out anymore unwarranted life-time contract extensions.
Move on bro, KF contract looked worse years ago. However, I have seen a major uptick in recruiting, excitement and I believe KF has made some positive changes in many aspects of the program. That is a great testament to him as a leader and person. I would personally like KF to ride out into the sunset on a really high note and would love if Fran turned it around after disappointing year last year. If you would rather that not happen so you can be “right” about Barta bc you have some weird obsession with athletic director (like who gives a shit dude) than I question you fanhood.
No can do bruh.
Fran’s latest extension was complete idiocy.
You are a kool aid drinker who simply doesn’t like anyone criticizing his beloved Hawkeyes.
Unfortunately for you, in this case the criticism is 100% deserved.
I question your fanhood for not caring that our AD is an incompetent tool.
Sorry for hoping the teams I root for succeed? I’m going to let things play out with Fran a little bit before jumping to conclusions, obviously last year was disappointing but I have a good feeling you will be eating crow. The KF contract extension is looking not so bad at this point, personally pretty excited about this years team and even more excited about the following years team. I am a huge advocate and fan of KF and am not one bit ashamed to admit that....guys going to be in the HOF soon after he retires
Before the start of every year with every team, there are overly zealous expectations. Your post could have been made every year for the past 20 years. I will root for my Hawkeyes; but, don't have high expectations. 7 - 5 season.
Well if we continue to have 5 suspensions a game I would agree. I just don't see 5 losses with our schedule. 8-4 would be OK, 9-3 is my prediction, 10+ yippee. Who do you see us getting our 5 losses from?
At this point NiU, ISU, Wisc, PSU, and 1 of mn/nw/neb.
I wouldnt bet on 7-5, but if they are 1-3 after Wiscy, 7-5 will be a fight.
I think Iowa's line is 7.5. I legally bet the over on that this year and feel (felt more confident before all the O and Dline suspensions) I am admittedly optimistic annually, but more so this year than normal.
