Where's our Fiscal Conservatives when U need them?
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hahahah, fiscal conservatives, I laugh, these people are just opportunists the sway in the wind. When Obama won they were TEa Partyers, during George Bush 2 they wanted to privatize everything in the Fed govt, they are always for tax cuts, but they wont stop spending. During tRump they wanted to do as much graft as possible. And during Biden they said it was the worst economy in history which was wrong by 100%
They are basically liars and crooks. Got it now. Dont wait for them to change their greedy grubby ways
They are basically liars and crooks. Got it now. Dont wait for them to change their greedy grubby ways
Stop doing everything for rich people. Does this need to keep being said?
Fiscal conservatives want spending cuts, not tax cuts. In fact, they want more tax cuts! Because....
The federal government is too big and it costs too much!
Surely you understand that, Joe!
The federal government is too big and it costs too much!
Surely you understand that, Joe!
They want rich tax cuts. They don't care about anything else.
Democrat judges are literally blocking spending cuts to the Federal Government.
Then Democrats turn around and ****ing cry when people get to keep more of their own money.
Then Democrats turn around and ****ing cry when people get to keep more of their own money.
Tax cuts don’t increase the deficit. They merely reduce the amount of the money that the government gets, by letting people keep more of their own money. Spending increases the deficit, which is why it needs to be cut, bigly.
Then why do we keep increasing the military budget or give corporations massive tax cuts that they don’t need. Tax cuts is spending. Cons believe in trickle down. That doesn’t work.
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Not Derp. They need to sunset and the revenue needs to go towards the deficit.
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It’s both. Go look at the deficits Trump ran up in his first term. The deficit through 5 months of the fiscal year thus far is over 1T. Cuts alone won’t get it done. And yes, I support the overall goal of DOGE.
For the military, we have to keep ahead of our enemies.
For the corporations, they help us keep ahead of our enemies, too.
As for the disjointed rant about "trickle down" I would argue that a poor man never gave anyone a job.
So is there a difference between fiscal conservatives and people who care about the debt?
Tax increases don't help with the debt because taxpayers take tax avoidance strategies in the face of tax increases.
Sorry bud. Tax cuts decrease revenue and thus increase the deficit. It’s just not debatable.
You’re wrong. See my links from the right leaning Manhattan institute if you disagree.
Fair enough on your first two points. As for your last point, the data shows that the working class does not and has not benefitted from trickle down policies.
They’re “Credit Card Conservatives”.
Buy now, pay later, ignore the fine print.
Buy now, pay later, ignore the fine print.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
This is the dumbest f*cking thing I’ve read all day - and that is saying something around these parts. Please have a look at our current spending and tell me exactly how spending cuts alone will get us to a balanced budget. Like actually do the math yourself - show us how you get there,
You can’t though can you - for two reasons:
- It isn’t possible without devastating cuts to the military, veterans or entitlements which R’s won’t go for, and
- You are not capable of actually doing the math yourself. Instead you rely on tweets from people who are misleading you for their own selfish aims
Think for yourself, do the math and you will see we have to cut spending while also increasing federal revenue.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
You think Trumps’s tax cuts didn’t increase the deficit? What the f*ck has happened that people ignore actual fact? They absolutely increased the deficit.
Fiscal conservatives don't exist anymore.
Nothing like doing tax cuts while at war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
MAGAS don't understand macro or micro economics.
Nothing like doing tax cuts while at war with Iraq and Afghanistan.
MAGAS don't understand macro or micro economics.
If the goal is to cut government spending……..
Hate the guy (and I do) but there are things that have needed to happen that have unnecessarily been the third rail in spending forever. The problem with the orange turd is that he will take any savings and roll it into tax cuts.
All of the "cuts" and "savings" that Elon and his goons have done so far (even if you take their word on the #'s) is barely a drop in the bucket when it comes to the federal budget and the federal deficit.
Extending these tax cuts on the other hand.....
Just such completely full of shit people and a full of shit party. I see multiple other posts already in this thread stressing government spending needing to be cut but of course none of these jack wagons living in a fantasy world will specify what they're going to cut to balance off these tax cuts let alone balance the federal budget.
Bullshit is always projectile vomiting out of all their orifices these days.
You and I will never see any of this money. Republicans will give it to rich people. Stop being a sucker.
Spending less than you take in will eventually balance the budget. That’s how pre-common core math used to work. And getting rid of people, buildings, equipment, etc. that do nothing but take up space is not devastating. If I turn out to be wrong, so be it, but I won’t.
hawkeyetraveler
HB Heisman
Show me how to spend less than federal revenue. Please. Where do you cut to get our budget to get it to balance? Do the math instead of just preaching dogma that never becomes reality.
I’m a fiscal conservative. I want a smaller federal government. But I have done the math and it is f*cking obvious to anyone who has that we have more than a spending problem. We also have a revenue problem. Why? Because to do spending cuts alone you have to cut things that the vast vast majority of Americans won’t accept. That is the reality. Do you know what we call someone who won’t face reality? Insane.
What the hell will it take for folks like you to actually stop preaching taglines and actually look at the math problem?
This is the Marxist view — that your money isn’t really yours, and that the government is somehow giving you something when it cuts your taxes. But that’s not how freedom and liberty work.
Cutting departments is a good start. Governments can always find ways to cut expenses, because governments by their very nature will always waste money. And yes, the DoD is one of, if not the, biggest culprits.
What the heck are you talking about? From a purely financial perspective, if your revenue decreases faster than your expenses do, that increases the deficit. It’s that way in business, in your household, whatever.
Do you ever get dizzy from all the spinning you do you fvcking clown?
