Same way anything else is enforced. If a gun tragedy happens with your weapon it is investigated to determine if the weapon was properly secured. If not, you can face criminal and civil charges.Absolutely nothing.
How would you enforce?
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Same way anything else is enforced. If a gun tragedy happens with your weapon it is investigated to determine if the weapon was properly secured. If not, you can face criminal and civil charges.Absolutely nothing.
How would you enforce?
But not enough to vote in legislators who will adopt such measures. That's the problem. Lip service vs. action.From an NRA and politician perspective, you're correct. But most, if not all, that I've personally spoken with here in Texas support a lot of the reasonable measures being offered up. There are more of us than you think.
They need to run. Right now it's base-pandering nonsense.But not enough to vote in legislators who will adopt such measures. That's the problem. Lip service vs. action.
That's bullshit. Red flag laws, raising the age to 21 for automatic rifles, background checks for all sales, and other moderate gun control measures are out there from the left and the right says "no" to all of them. They tell their constituents "No way in hell they will take our guns" and those people lap it up even though it is patently false. Some of them will say "we should have some common sense gun laws" but then they continue their support for the right wingers flinging misinformation at them.They need to run. Right now it's base-pandering nonsense.
Left Candidate: We're gonna get those guns!
Right Candidate: No way in hell they will take our guns!
Neither platform is even the damn issue. It placating hogwash.
I'd vote in favor of all those measures.That's bullshit. Red flag laws, raising the age to 21 for automatic rifles, background checks for all sales, and other moderate gun control measures are out there from the left and the right says "no" to all of them. They tell their constituents "No way in hell they will take our guns" and those people lap it up even though it is patently false. Some of them will say "we should have some common sense gun laws" but then they continue their support for the right wingers flinging misinformation at them.
These things will not happen unless right wing gun owners stop supporting the candidates who spew the "coming for our guns" garbage.
Automatic rifles have been illegal for decades. You cant even remeber the most basic facts of the situation, why would anyone "compromise" with a group that is so uneducated on the subject?That's bullshit. Red flag laws, raising the age to 21 for automatic rifles, background checks for all sales, and other moderate gun control measures are out there from the left and the right says "no" to all of them. They tell their constituents "No way in hell they will take our guns" and those people lap it up even though it is patently false. Some of them will say "we should have some common sense gun laws" but then they continue their support for the right wingers flinging misinformation at them.
These things will not happen unless right wing gun owners stop supporting the candidates who spew the "coming for our guns" garbage.
It's semantics...he meant semi-automatic.Automatic rifles have been illegal for decades. You cant even remeber the most basic facts of the situation, why would anyone "compromise" with a group that is so uneducated on the subject?
Furthermore, do you just ignore the candidates who clearly say they want to confiscate certain guns? Are we supposed to trust theyre lying? Rationalize that for us...
Its not semantics - its two extremely different categories of firearms and shows an absolute lack of knowledge on the subject. Hence not wanting a group so uneducated on the subject writing laws on the subject.It's semantics...he meant semi-automatic.
And how many of you could have avoided the situation altogether had you not felt confident because you had the firearm?I know you haven't, Bell, but many have including myself.
When someone kicks your door in at 1am in a 2 story house and you're upstairs asleep, I guess I could have called 9-11 and waited 30 min.And how many of you could have avoided the situation altogether had you not felt confident because you had the firearm?
In these (message board) discussions, I disagree. I'm a little more forgiving. If a lawmaker, however, attempted to put forth ignorant legislation, then I'd be a little less forgiving.Its not semantics - its two extremely different categories of firearms and shows an absolute lack of knowledge on the subject. Hence not wanting a group so uneducated on the subject writing laws on the subject.
It is bullshit because that is an outlier that is being passed off by the right as the position of the left.I'd vote in favor of all those measures.
And it's not BS. But I agree not every Dem has the same stance as Beto.
Sigh - I meant semi-automatic. I'm sure all but the most dullardly of you understood that.Automatic rifles have been illegal for decades. You cant even remeber the most basic facts of the situation, why would anyone "compromise" with a group that is so uneducated on the subject?
Furthermore, do you just ignore the candidates who clearly say they want to confiscate certain guns? Are we supposed to trust theyre lying? Rationalize that for us...
You're an idiot.Its not semantics - its two extremely different categories of firearms and shows an absolute lack of knowledge on the subject. Hence not wanting a group so uneducated on the subject writing laws on the subject.
Please bitch, that's ridiculous. The vast majority of gun enthusiasts are not running through thousands of dollars a month of ammo at the range unless their employer is footing the bill, most of those yahoos don't have a pot to piss in as it is.Thats only a few weekends at the range
That was my point. I even said it wasn't accurate. It's the pandering narrative that isn't true by most, only by the fringe, but passed on as the norm. My apologies for not wording it better.....that is being passed off by the right as the position of the left.
Yet smart enough to know the basics of firearms - what does that say about you?You're an idiot.
Nope.If you own a gun you're a nut. ...that's my assumption.
I understand and support my rights, but I'm not going to grandstand, order a t-shirt, or become some blow-hard like those you're referencing, so nope. I don't qualify.Nope.
One of the factions that I consider "gun nuts" are the owners that declare..."yeah, just try and take my guns".
You qualify?
Still waiting for your rationalization regarding candiadates and politicians who explicitly say they want to confiscate guns. Do we trust theyre lying? (lemme know when the lack of logic on that one hits you).Sigh - I meant semi-automatic. I'm sure all but the most dullardly of you understood that.
*they're. SMFH
There's a big difference between what dipsticks like Beto propose (and yes, Ted Cruise is our other Texas dipstick) and what elected politicians are actually putting forth. Most know there needs to be compromise because sweeping bans like what he [Beto] proposed will never happen. Sensible gun reform should be looked at.Still waiting for your rationalization regarding candiadates and politicians who explicitly say they want to confiscate guns. Do we trust theyre lying? (lemme know when the lack of logic on that one hits you).
Lol - at you for thinking that is the litmus test for intelligence. Another demonstration of your idiocy.Yet smart enough to know the basics of firearms - what does that say about you?
Just yesterday Rep Cicilline said stabilizing braces turn the firearm into an automatic weapon as a justification for support of the newest House gc efforts, so dont be forgiving - they are so far removed from reality, nothing, no matter how trivial or elementary it may seem, can be taken for granted. The people writing these laws are making @RileyHawk look educated on the subject.In these (message board) discussions, I disagree. I'm a little more forgiving. If a lawmaker, however, attempted to put forth ignorant legislation, then I'd be a little less forgiving.
Had riley typed "semi" in front of automatic, would you be in favor of the proposal?
*candidates and, again *they'reStill waiting for your rationalization regarding candiadates and politicians who explicitly say they want to confiscate guns. Do we trust theyre lying? (lemme know when the lack of logic on that one hits you).
So your position is literally: trust theyre lying.There's a big difference between what dipsticks like Beto propose (and yes, Ted Cruise is our other Texas dipstick) and what elected politicians are actually putting forth. Most know there needs to be compromise because sweeping bans like what he [Beto] proposed will never happen. Sensible gun reform should be looked at.
On the topic of guns, yes, it is the litmus test.Lol - at you for thinking that is the litmus test for intelligence. Another demonstration of your idiocy.
You continue to be terrible at this.
Fair enough.When someone kicks your door in at 1am in a 2 story house and you're upstairs asleep, I guess I could have called 9-11 and waited 30 min.
And for the record, I didn't have confidence, I was scared shitless. Guns don't make a person brave.
They are a tool for a variety of purposes (I already listed above) and defense is one of them.
I retract my previous statement. Good grief.Just yesterday Rep Cicilline said stabilizing braces turn the firearm into an automatic weapon as a justification for support of the newest House gc efforts, so dont be forgiving - they are so far removed from reality, nothing, no matter how trivial or elementary it may seem, can be taken for granted. The people writing these laws are making @RileyHawk look educated on the subject.
So we just disregard anyone who refutes your position as "outliers"?*candidates and, again *they're
I already answered that - those are outliers. Try again skippy.
What if one never says it but has this bumper sticker (asking for a friend)?Nope.
One of the factions that I consider "gun nuts" are the owners that declare..."yeah, just try and take my guns".
You qualify?
It's really not. But you continue on with your self fellating. LOLOn the topic of guns, yes, it is the litmus test.
Is Beto lying? No.So your position is literally: trust theyre lying.
Are you even trying to make sense now? JFC you're a loon.So we just disregard anyone who refutes your position as "outliers"?
Bingo. In other words, an outlier.Is Beto lying? No.
Will Beto get elected in Texas (with that platform)? No.
IF Beto were to get elected, would he be able to enact such an extreme stance? No. He'll have to learn compromise.
What part of this are you not following? Politicians (elected, appointed, and/or candidates) vocally support confiscation of certain guns. You agree this happens, correct?Are you even trying to make sense now? JFC you're a loon.
So what’d you do?I don't think it's a simple as that, but certainly a factor. I'm a kiddo of the 70s & 80s and I was raised that guns were a tool, not a toy or a status symbol. We hunted with a group poverty-level individuals where if you missed a deer, you were literally taking food off their family's tables. Additionally, we used guns to take care of predators on our property, and to answer your last question, "Have you?", sadly, the answer is yes. At our last home, the front door was kicked in at 1am by would-be armed burglars with both my wife and two daughters at home. As a disabled veteran, I'm glad I was armed.
I think most people, when making statements about "toughness", falsely make the assumption that everyone is built like or as capable as the Rock in Walking Tall. Sadly, that isn't the case. Had I not been armed that night, there's a good chance our family would not be here today.
FFS - as has been discussed, there are some but they are few, thus an outlier. And banning sales of certain guns is not confiscation.What part of this are you not following? Politicians (both elected, appointed, and candidates) vocally support confiscation of certain guns. You agree this happens, correct?
So are we to believe theyre lying or otherwise hyperbolic? Or are we to put them in a bucket of "outlier" at the utterance of such a phrase? And if so, at what do the "outliers" become a "group"?