Why Are People Saying Trump Isn't a Conservative?

[What Would Jesus Do?]

I've heard this from several candidates recently. IIRC, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have all leveled this charge. Maybe others, too.

What are the actual issues he's unconservative on? Or what conservative positions is he failing to support.

 

[Huey Grey]

Reagan wouldn't be considered a conservative with today's GOP. Probably sour grapes he's owning the field.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

because trump in the past has supported and voted dem, and he has eastern or ny or nj ties. ny and boston and most of the northeast is liberal. and he went to liberty university the other day { yesterday maybe} and bungled up bible versus. and he uses government regulations to his advantage. and he's for some sort of government hmo or something. the only couple of issues he's conservative on are the wall and immigration and the fact that he's wanting to be conservative on money and the economy supposedly.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Reagan wouldn't be considered a conservative with today's GOP. Probably sour grapes he's owning the field.

except trump is certainly not gop

 

[Huey Grey]

because trump in the past has supported and voted dem, and he has eastern or ny or nj ties. ny and boston and most of the northeast is liberal. and he went to liberty university the other day { yesterday maybe} and bungled up bible versus. and he uses government regulations to his advantage. and he's for some sort of government hmo or something. the only couple of issues he's conservative on are the wall and immigration and the fact that he's wanting to be conservative on money and the economy supposedly.

Um, isn't this like 90% of what it means to be conservative?

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Um, isn't this like 90% of what it means to be conservative?

two issues? no. being a conservative means wayyyyyyyy more than two issues. but I'm sure you knew that. that would be like me saying a liberal is all about abortion and ghey marriage

 

[naturalmwa]

Well lets see. At some point this century he has been pro choice, pro gays, pro tariff, pro fair trade, pro wealth tax, pro hedge fund tax, pro affirmative action, anti Iraq war, pro medical marijuana and let states decide on the fun stuff, pro STFO on ISIS and Syria, anti TPP, admits free trade kills American jobs, anti soft money and superpacs, pro universal single payer healthcare. If we squint and rearrange a bit he sounds pretty great.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

 

[naturalmwa]

two issues? no. being a conservative means wayyyyyyyy more than two issues. but I'm sure you knew that. that would be like me saying a liberal is all about abortion and ghey marriage

Well not anymore, that fight is over. We won just like I told you we would. Who says nothing ever changes? #smug #getoverit

 

[IowaHawkeyeFBnBB4Life]

It's simple, Trump is not an establishment guy. Mitt Romney was a liberal in the past, but the establishment endorsed him.

 

[Titanhawk2]

Reagan wouldn't be considered a conservative with today's GOP. Probably sour grapes he's owning the field.

I believe he is considered conservative by today's GOP. Having lived through it, the conservative vs. lib thing isn't much different from 1980

 

[Huey Grey]

I believe he is considered conservative by today's GOP. Having lived through it, the conservative vs. lib thing isn't much different from 1980

Reagan banned guns, granted amnesty to millions, and was a peacenik. He wouldn't have made it in today's GOP.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

he has eastern or ny or nj ties. ny and boston and most of the northeast is liberal.

William Buckley?

 

[jscott78]

I've heard this from several candidates recently. IIRC, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have all leveled this charge. Maybe others, too.

What are the actual issues he's unconservative on? Or what conservative positions is he failing to support.

It's just that conservatives are embarrassed by what they have created. Anger, resentments, blame everyone mentality. Trump plays slightly different notes on key conservative strategies.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

Well lets see. At some point this century he has been pro choice, pro gays, pro tariff, pro fair trade, pro wealth tax, pro hedge fund tax, pro affirmative action, anti Iraq war, pro medical marijuana and let states decide on the fun stuff, pro STFO on ISIS and Syria, anti TPP, admits free trade kills American jobs, anti soft money and superpacs, pro universal single payer healthcare. If we squint and rearrange a bit he sounds pretty great.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

A lot of squinting required. And you can't notice that he's flip-flopped to the conservative position on some of those.

Nevertheless, those are reasons to prefer him over Cruz.

 

[What Would Jesus Do?]

 

[Huey Grey]

Jesus, these two sound nuts.

 

[Hoosierhawkeye]

I've heard this from several candidates recently. IIRC, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have all leveled this charge. Maybe others, too.

What are the actual issues he's unconservative on? Or what conservative positions is he failing to support.

He's said during this campaign that his healthcare plan will be universal healthcare and the government will pay for healthcare for those who can't afford it.

That's not very conservative.

Not that I'm endorsing Trump or anything, but there is good reason for R's to say that Trump isn't truely conservative.

With Trump voters, anger seems to be more important then conservative ideals.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

The real answer is that both sides are so closely related, that they often get muddled together.

 

[Huey Grey]

The real answer is that both sides are so closely related, that they often get muddled together.

Hope you don't mean Democrats and Republicans because you couldn't be more wrong.

 

[ottumwan in tx]

No hes right dems and liberal rino repubs are exact match

 

[73chief]

Because as a successful business man who has worked for years in the construction industry he has made multiple contributions to both democrats and republicans which is the cost of doing business for any private sector company. Especially in an industry that has to deal with government bureaucracy to gain building permits, zoning considerations, etc.

That is why.

 

[NoleSoup4U]

Hope you don't mean Democrats and Republicans because you couldn't be more wrong.

I do, and I'm not.

 

[Jan Itor]

I've heard this from several candidates recently. IIRC, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio have all leveled this charge. Maybe others, too.

What are the actual issues he's unconservative on? Or what conservative positions is he failing to support.

The guy is pandering. Happens in every election. Look at their record and don't listen to the words they vomit.

 

[aflachawk]

Reagan wouldn't be considered a conservative with today's GOP. Probably sour grapes he's owning the field.

Thanks for sprouting your opinions out your ass again. Reagan would definitely be in the main stream of conservative thought today. Any other opinion is disingenuous or ill informed. They are afraid he is not a con because his views have changed in their totally by 180%. IMHO , he is not a con,he is instead a populist

 

[ottumwan in tx]

Thanks for sprouting your opinions out your ass again. Reagan would definitely be in the main stream of conservative thought today. Any other opinion is disingenuous or ill informed. They are afraid he is not a con because his views have changed in their totally by 180%. IMHO , he is not a con,he is instead a populist

exactly, and I think trump might like the Reagan comparisons, and cruz keeps on invoking Reagan's name

 

[aflachawk]

Reagan banned guns, granted amnesty to millions, and was a peacenik. He wouldn't have made it in today's GOP.

I am trying to decide whether your'e serious or just seriously stupid. Let's take these one at a time. There may have been an assault weapon ban but Reagan was strongly second amendment. He never did and never would have banned guns. He did sign the Amnesty bill but accepted it because Ted Kennedy promIsed border security. ( something he reneged on) then the most curious claim. Peacenik? WTF? He built up the military and believed strongly in peace through strength. He walked away from an agreement in Iceland because he felt no agreement was better for us than the agreement the USSR wanted. Do you remember all the times he did use the military? Let me remind you what he did believe in. Lower taxes, less regulation and even de-regulated several sectors completely. Less federal government and more control from the states(he was a strong believer in federalism).less government spending, etc, etc. Reagan's entire philosophy would be quite main stream conservative today